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  • V_RocKs
    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
    • Nov 2003
    • 32449

    #1

    So GalleryGuy hits me up on ICQ, says I stole his design

    I ask him what he is talking about and it appears I am using a design on his for modelflats.com on one of my tgp's...

    He demands $100 and I am like, dude, you sell them on your site for $20? He wants to take it to the boards...

    My question is, is $100 fair for a non-exclusive gallery that will probably never generate that much money since it is on a 50K tgp and I don't post galleries to other tgps?

    Or is $20 adequate for a design that isn't mine exclusively anyway?
  • Babaganoosh
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    • Nov 2001
    • 15841

    #2
    Well, if you didn't pay for it in the first place, $100 is more than fair.
    I like pie.

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    • V_RocKs
      Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
      • Nov 2003
      • 32449

      #3
      Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
      Well, if you didn't pay for it in the first place, $100 is more than fair.
      Really? Never used Napster? Kazaa? or a pirated version of Photoshop or downloaded an MP3?

      If you will stand behind that, then I'll just change it enough to become my own design or remove it. But $100 is way out of line in my book.

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      • pornguy
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        • Mar 2003
        • 62912

        #4
        If you did not steal it tell him to lick your balls, and take you to court. If you did steal it, then you are a stupid shit head for asking about it on this board.


        So pay the guy the 100$
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        • uno
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          • Dec 2002
          • 18450

          #5
          Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
          Well, if you didn't pay for it in the first place, $100 is more than fair.
          Yep. You go stealin the guy's design, the least you could do is give him 100. Why not pay for your galleries instead of stealing em?
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          • skillfull
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            • Apr 2003
            • 4716

            #6
            Originally posted by pornguy
            If you did not steal it tell him to lick your balls, and take you to court. If you did steal it, then you are a stupid shit head for asking about it on this board.


            So pay the guy the 100$
            what he said
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            • Babaganoosh
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              • Nov 2001
              • 15841

              #7
              Originally posted by V_RocKs
              Really? Never used Napster? Kazaa? or a pirated version of Photoshop or downloaded an MP3?

              If you will stand behind that, then I'll just change it enough to become my own design or remove it. But $100 is way out of line in my book.
              I have never stolen a design from anyone and that's the subject at hand. You stole it so you owe him whatever he says you owe him. $100 isn't unreasonable for a TGP design anyway.
              I like pie.

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              • jimmyf
                OU812
                • Feb 2001
                • 12651

                #8
                if it's his design he can ask any thing for it he wants.

                He don't have 2 sell it, could just ask you 2 take it down.

                oh

                why did you take it without asking, you do know what that is? don't you
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                • Jakke PNG
                  ex-TeenGodFather
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 20306

                  #9
                  Originally posted by V_RocKs
                  Really? Never used Napster? Kazaa? or a pirated version of Photoshop or downloaded an MP3?

                  If you will stand behind that, then I'll just change it enough to become my own design or remove it. But $100 is way out of line in my book.
                  Umm.. why would anyone pay for anything if they could just pay what it's worth when/if they're caught.

                  You stole, you pay the 'fine'. Stop whining.
                  ..and I'm off.

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                  • jimmyf
                    OU812
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 12651

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TeenGodFather
                    Umm.. why would anyone pay for anything if they could just pay what it's worth when/if they're caught.

                    You stole, you pay the 'fine'. Stop whining.
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                    • WarChild
                      Let slip the dogs of war.
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 17263

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jimmyf
                      why did you take it without asking, you do know what that is? don't you
                      Business as usual in Adult? Is that the right answer?
                      .

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                      • ProjectNaked
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                        • Jul 2004
                        • 4309

                        #12

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                        • Jakke PNG
                          ex-TeenGodFather
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 20306

                          #13
                          Originally posted by WarChild
                          Business as usual in Adult? Is that the right answer?
                          Unfortunately.
                          ..and I'm off.

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                          • jimmyf
                            OU812
                            • Feb 2001
                            • 12651

                            #14
                            Originally posted by WarChild
                            Business as usual in Adult? Is that the right answer?
                            Looks like it is
                            Last edited by jimmyf; 11-29-2004, 04:45 PM.
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                            • MetaMan
                              I AM WEB 2.0
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 28682

                              #15
                              people that steal from designers are the lowest shitheads on earth,

                              if you actually did steal it you owe him more than $100 imo.

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                              • V_RocKs
                                Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 32449

                                #16
                                The gallery has been removed. My point was he could have made money on it if he asked a reasonable price. Now I will just make some changes and put it back up as my own design.

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                                • Ron
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                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 408

                                  #17
                                  $100 is to less... when i whas him i would have asked 2 - 3 times that much..
                                  Ron

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                                  • ztik
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                                    • Aug 2001
                                    • 5196

                                    #18
                                    Idiot
                                    .

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                                    • Sly
                                      Let's do some business!
                                      • Sep 2004
                                      • 31377

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                      The gallery has been removed. My point was he could have made money on it if he asked a reasonable price. Now I will just make some changes and put it back up as my own design.
                                      You seem like a fine person to do business with. When can we begin?
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                                      • V_RocKs
                                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 32449

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by MetaMan
                                        people that steal from designers are the lowest shitheads on earth,

                                        if you actually did steal it you owe him more than $100 imo.
                                        I didn't know he was a designer. I liked the gallery and my tgp software has the ability to spyder galleries and edit the affiliate codes. If it wasn't part of the software I wouldn't have figured it was something normal to the industry. Kinda like a sponsor who uses the skimming feature. Which brings to mind, what the fuck are most of you opening your mouths in my thread for?

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                                        • dunefield
                                          www.barely18movies.com
                                          • Feb 2003
                                          • 10920

                                          #21
                                          PEOPLE WHO STEAL GO TO HELL!!!

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                                          • Ron
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 408

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                            The gallery has been removed. My point was he could have made money on it if he asked a reasonable price. Now I will just make some changes and put it back up as my own design.
                                            Thats even worse..
                                            Ron

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                                            • Jakke PNG
                                              ex-TeenGodFather
                                              • Nov 2001
                                              • 20306

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                              The gallery has been removed. My point was he could have made money on it if he asked a reasonable price. Now I will just make some changes and put it back up as my own design.
                                              Dude. You suck. Seriously.
                                              Think about it for a second.

                                              Also, if you use any of his graphics or html, you're basically violating his copyright.. so better change it a lot if you plan to use it as your own design.
                                              ..and I'm off.

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                                              • cherrylula
                                                lol
                                                • Jan 2002
                                                • 15969

                                                #24
                                                great, so who else are you stealing from?

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                                                • chemicaleyes
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                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                  • 11569

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pornguy
                                                  If you did not steal it tell him to lick your balls, and take you to court. If you did steal it, then you are a stupid shit head for asking about it on this board.


                                                  So pay the guy the 100$
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                                                  • fris
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 55689

                                                    #26
                                                    why would you steal a design, pay for someone to design something galleryguy is a good guy, his designs are good, and his customers are loyal, not one complaint i can see.
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                                                    • Fake Nick
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                      • 7708

                                                      #27
                                                      ha ha V ROCKS wil not be rocking much longer on gfy


                                                      you just fuckin owned yourself dude !!


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                                                      • V_RocKs
                                                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                        • 32449

                                                        #28
                                                        The GalleryGuy and I have come to an understanding. Seems he was only getting 1/2 of my ICQ messages and then only parts of the ones that did send. So he basically thought I was trying to dodge him.

                                                        Thanks everyone for your input. I got lessoned a bit. When I write my book, I will be sure to include this chapter.

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                                                        • crockett
                                                          in a van by the river
                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 76818

                                                          #29
                                                          how would you like someone to take your design on modelflats.com and use it on their own site?
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                                                          • ace0r
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                            • 1410

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                            Really? Never used Napster? Kazaa? or a pirated version of Photoshop or downloaded an MP3?

                                                            If you will stand behind that, then I'll just change it enough to become my own design or remove it. But $100 is way out of line in my book.
                                                            too many idiots in this industry.

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                                                            • fris
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 55689

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                              how would you like someone to take your design on modelflats.com and use it on their own site?
                                                              exactly, if someone took my design i wouldnt like it

                                                              actually i am dealing with someone who runs a big mgp who stole his design trying to get it removed.
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                                                              • Fatalspeed
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                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                • 2101

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                The gallery has been removed. My point was he could have made money on it if he asked a reasonable price. Now I will just make some changes and put it back up as my own design.
                                                                you steal a design, get caught, try to come here and ask if that's a right thing to do and now act like a real prick almost blaming the one you stole it from in the first place... good job
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                                                                • jact
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                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                  • 9134

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by ztik
                                                                  Idiot
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                                                                  • Freakster
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                    • 833

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Damn... Mike should have exposed you and not even given you a chance to fix the situation. You got caught, and did not even pay him... taking it down after getting caught doesn't make it any better imho... it's too late.

                                                                    Also asking if it was "fair"... stupid. You sure didn't ask Mike in the first place if it was fair that you steal his design..

                                                                    I truely HOPE you did take down the other stolen galleries at the same time.
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                                                                    • doober
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                      • 6984

                                                                      #35
                                                                      this thread is pretty damn funny.
                                                                      Makes me wonder if there any real webmasters around here...

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                                                                      • swedguy
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                        • 7981

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                        I didn't know he was a designer. I liked the gallery and my tgp software has the ability to spyder galleries and edit the affiliate codes. If it wasn't part of the software I wouldn't have figured it was something normal to the industry. Kinda like a sponsor who uses the skimming feature. Which brings to mind, what the fuck are most of you opening your mouths in my thread for?
                                                                        Are you serious?

                                                                        I guess it's just for people to start looking for their designs: http://www.whois.sc/reverse-ip/66.228.193.119 (25 domains)

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                                                                        • iwantchixx
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 12860

                                                                          #37
                                                                          you gotta be kidding me. you think it's ok to spider galleries and put your ref codes and use other people's work? holy fuck, you'll do well around here.

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                                                                          • Jakke PNG
                                                                            ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                            • Nov 2001
                                                                            • 20306

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                                                            you gotta be kidding me. you think it's ok to spider galleries and put your ref codes and use other people's work? holy fuck, you'll do well around here.
                                                                            Indeed.. and he doesn't see anything wrong with it.
                                                                            Let everyone else just do the work..
                                                                            ..and I'm off.

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                                                                            • Hugh
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                                                                              • Sep 2004
                                                                              • 194

                                                                              #39
                                                                              battle!
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                                                                              • Big Monkie
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                                • 382

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                Now I will just make some changes and put it back up as my own design.
                                                                                Wow, dude you are something else. This is what YOU just posted on another board from your icq conversation with Mike about this;

                                                                                "Well, when I took it I didn't know who owned it and had no idea it was you ........... I used it only on my tgp and didn't post it around .............. I've only done it to about 10 galleries ............. I didn't know 1 gallery was going to cause this much grief to someone"

                                                                                Stealing something as simple as a gallery is enough to make people wonder, but your responses are what is really interesting.

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                                                                                • Fletch XXX
                                                                                  GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                  • 60840

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  gallery theives are always welcome on GFY.

                                                                                  hell candyflip is getting paid to post here and hes been exposed.

                                                                                  numerous crooks have, they never go away and it never matteras.

                                                                                  people will be buying from them tomorrow and forever.

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                                                                                  • DaLord
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                                                    • 3318

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    You did steal my design and (as I explained to you on ICQ) I really don't appreciate that.

                                                                                    I always try to treat people fair and never cheat so when I get cheated I get really angry.

                                                                                    Even that I own some fairly big TGPs I have to make some unique galleries to make money from them. Hosted galleries from sponsors are shit these days because all TGPs are using the same galleries so I make my own galleries. Of course to improve my ratio and it works.

                                                                                    I simply can't get into my head how you couldn't see you were doing something shitty when you took that design and started using it. You even took my thumbnails (that were cropped - odd size - so it took quite a bit of time to make them).

                                                                                    Not only do I run some clean sites but I also run GalleryGuy.com where I design for other webmasters. If all webmasters just took my stuff I wouldn't make much.

                                                                                    I could have knocked your trade script out in an hour or two but all I asked for was 100 dollars. You even told me not to "talk to you in that tone".

                                                                                    Guess I have a bad temper when I get angry

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                                                                                    • Doctor Dre
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 51692

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      If you stole it ... yes
                                                                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                      • Doctor Dre
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                        • 51692

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                        Really? Never used Napster? Kazaa? or a pirated version of Photoshop or downloaded an MP3?

                                                                                        If you will stand behind that, then I'll just change it enough to become my own design or remove it. But $100 is way out of line in my book.
                                                                                        Dude if you start stealing designs in this business you will get hated and blocked ... very bad idea.
                                                                                        Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                        I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                        • DaLord
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                          • 3318

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                          The GalleryGuy and I have come to an understanding. Seems he was only getting 1/2 of my ICQ messages and then only parts of the ones that did send. So he basically thought I was trying to dodge him.

                                                                                          Thanks everyone for your input. I got lessoned a bit. When I write my book, I will be sure to include this chapter.
                                                                                          The gallery design is still up. You didn't remove it.

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                                                                                          • Smut
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                                            • 654

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                            I ask him what he is talking about and it appears I am using a design on his for modelflats.com on one of my tgp's...

                                                                                            He demands $100 and I am like, dude, you sell them on your site for $20? He wants to take it to the boards...

                                                                                            My question is, is $100 fair for a non-exclusive gallery that will probably never generate that much money since it is on a 50K tgp and I don't post galleries to other tgps?

                                                                                            Or is $20 adequate for a design that isn't mine exclusively anyway?
                                                                                            If you're so hard up for a gallery design that you can't cough up $20 to buy it, you need to get the fuck out of this industry.

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                                                                                            • escorpio
                                                                                              doesn't fuck around.
                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 23487

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Un-fucking-believable.
                                                                                              Unvaxxed, still alive.

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                                                                                              • iwantchixx
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                • 12860

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                i'm at a loss of words as to how much of an idiot this guy is acting like. he firmly believes it's all perfectly ok to change it and put it back up. just pay the fucker and be done with it.

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                                                                                                • DaLord
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                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                  • 3318

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                                                                                  i'm at a loss of words as to how much of an idiot this guy is acting like. he firmly believes it's all perfectly ok to change it and put it back up. just pay the fucker and be done with it.

                                                                                                  I'm not a "fucker"

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                                                                                                  • alan-l
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                                    • 2477

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by DaLord
                                                                                                    The gallery design is still up. You didn't remove it.
                                                                                                    no shit

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