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polish_aristocrat 11-26-2004 01:23 PM

The thread starter has a good point, since few months ago Lykos posted that his mother died and I haven't heard about any donations for him.

European Lee 11-26-2004 01:25 PM

Are you people even reading the first post in this thread?

THIS ISNT ABOUT SARAHS CASE

It was more a generalization about the industry as a whole.

Hell i could probably reel off about 4 or 5 names that have had 1 donation thread started for them EVERY year fr the last 5 or 6.

Regards,

Lee

codymc12 11-26-2004 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Are you people even reading the first post in this thread?

THIS ISNT ABOUT SARAHS CASE

It was more a generalization about the industry as a whole.

Hell i could probably reel off about 4 or 5 names that have had 1 donation thread started for them EVERY year fr the last 5 or 6.

Regards,

Lee

Yes, I did read it. However, with the timing, as I said - he shouldn't be surprised if someone questions his motives for posting. I do - and it's not because I can't read.

European Lee 11-26-2004 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by codymc12
Yes, I did read it. However, with the timing, as I said - he shouldn't be surprised if someone questions his motives for posting. I do - and it's not because I can't read.
So the thread starter is supposed to wait until a month or twos time when nobody has this type of thing fresh in their minds before bringing the topic up?

I replied without giving a second thought to the motives of the poster, he stated facts, nothing else and, subsequently asked why that was the case.

Regards,

Lee

European Lee 11-26-2004 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RRRED
Several years ago, a male webmaster lost his newborn baby to sids.. a bunch of people raised some money for him... and actually it was WAY more than he probably needed.. and actually i've never seen him around since.

Anyone remember that?

That has happened a few times over the last 5 or 6 years actually, someone posts an obviously false story, gets the donations rolling in then, dissapears for a year and starts the cycle over again.

As i mentioned in an early reply, im sure those of us who have been around for longer than a couple of years can all recollect at least 4 people who have done this on a regular basis in between breakdowns, familys deaths etc.

Regards,

Lee

candyflip 11-26-2004 01:38 PM

Great post.

What boggles my mind is the number of people here that lash out and attack out of emotion.

This thread had nothing to do with Sarah. It's a question.

Some people here really need to think before speaking and stop reacting on emotion.

codymc12 11-26-2004 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
So the thread starter is supposed to wait until a month or twos time when nobody has this type of thing fresh in their minds before bringing the topic up?

I replied without giving a second thought to the motives of the poster, he stated facts, nothing else and, subsequently asked why that was the case.

Regards,

Lee

Lee,

I'm not saying what he should or shouldn't do. I'm saying that it's unrealistic for him to expect everyone to accept it's not directed in some way at Sarah. I'm not calling him a liar. I'm just saying - when the only existing threads on this subject currently relate to Sarah - the fact that he says it's so doesn't make it so. He seems intelligent enough to have accepted this probability when he first posted.

I have been around long enough for sure to remember a number of scams. One of the earliest and more famous ones - shitman? Anyone remember that? That was probably the end of the 'heavy hitters' donating to an unfortunate webmaster. Lot of people got burned on it.

Generally speaking, my point is simply this - there is no 'fairness' in charity. People donate with their hearts, not their wallets. If they donated with their wallets - they would never donate. I mean, it makes no financial sense, does it? To give something for nothing? And there will always be scam-charities. But that shouldn't shut down all charitable actions forever.

Charitable-worthiness is entirely subjective to the person donating, IMO.

European Lee 11-26-2004 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by codymc12
I'm saying that it's unrealistic for him to expect everyone to accept it's not directed in some way at Sarah.
That right there... sums GFY up in one sentence :2 cents:

Regards,

Lee

XxXotic 11-26-2004 01:49 PM

what i'm wondering is, why do you care what ANYONE here does with their money? if people wanna give someone money for whatever reason, what business is it of yours to object?

I could see if people were giving away YOUR money... but they're not. so what's the problem? upset because if it was you in that persons shoes, nobody here would piss on your gums if your teeth were on fire?

Fizzgig 11-26-2004 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mardigras
A death is not just emotional grievance, there are real financial difficulties for some. Being 3000 miles away from any family doesn't help. Glad to hear you are well off enough financially to cover the final expenses of any relatives that may die suddenly.
S'right.

Maybe you didn't mean any harm, but any speech, post or letter that contains the phrase, "I don't mean to be an asshole but..." should indicate to you that you're about to be one...

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you. I can see your point of view... but it's WRONG!

codymc12 11-26-2004 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
That right there... sums GFY up in one sentence :2 cents:

Regards,

Lee

If this is degenerating to a 'your posts are just another example of the troll-GFY mentality', then I'll let you have the victory.

I keep my post count low, and try to speak on topics that interest me, and it's very rare that I stoop to an out and out slam on anyone. I don't feel my replies on this thread were an exception - I spoke to his question.

I don't think the point I made was unreasonable. It was based on logic, not the 'gfy thought process'. But the general response to making that point seems to be 'you can't read' or 'you can't think', which isn't really productive debate.

Here's an extreme and silly example, but done to make my point, for whatever it's worth: Someone posts saying 'my baby girl died', and people take up a donation for that. Someone then posts saying 'why is it that baby girls always get donations, while baby boys don't? Oh - but I'm not talking about the CURRENT baby-girl donation." Sorry- but I'm afraid I'd be skeptical.


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