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  • Workshop_Willy
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    • Oct 2004
    • 452
    #1

    You all taught me how to seek an investor

    Which frankly is something I've never had to do before, so I botched it badly the first time. I need one now!

    Some critical comments were made in this forum the last time I tried. While there was interest expressed, I couldn't figure out what kept bogging down the negotiations until I cleaned the crap out of my cranial cavity and looked at it with those comments in mind. Well duh. No outline, no figures, no nothing on my part to help guide the negotiations.

    So after pulling it all together, here it is in full living color - my solicitation for an investor to get restarted in the wonderful world of producing erotic web content, complete with past figures, projections, and a portfolio.

    Please be pliable and gentle!

    I need a little bit of investment capital

    PS: I'm sorry to hear about your loss, Sarah. Having watched my P's both die slow and agonizing deaths, I know what a shock it is to lose a loved one even when you expect it.
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    • polish_aristocrat
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      • Jul 2002
      • 40377
      #2
      link doesn't load.
      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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        • Workshop_Willy
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          • Oct 2004
          • 452
          #3
          My apologies, a typo in the post. Try it now.
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            • Rob
              I'm a great bowler.
              • Nov 2003
              • 13310
              #4
              What exactly do you need investment capital for? Development? Marketing?

              I can't say that I understand the proposal.

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                • Workshop_Willy
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                  • Oct 2004
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                  #5
                  Development. I need to buy a few things but 2/3 of the money is to hire models to get the ball rolling again.
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                    • Rob
                      I'm a great bowler.
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 13310
                      #6
                      Nevermind, I just dug a little deeper and found.

                      Honestly, I don't think you're going to find too many takers but that's just my

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                        • Workshop_Willy
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                          #7
                          I appreciate your looking into it.
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                            • Workshop_Willy
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                              #8
                              Any suggestions for other venues?
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                                • Workshop_Willy
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                                  • Oct 2004
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                                  #9
                                  Hmmmm.... maybe posting this on Thanksgiving Day was another botch.
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                                    • mrthumbs
                                      salad tossing sig guy
                                      • Apr 2002
                                      • 11702
                                      #10
                                      your business approach or what you think business is will lead you nowhere.. certainly not in this industry..

                                      So start DOING things instead of THINKING and stuff will start
                                      falling together for you.

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                                        • mrthumbs
                                          salad tossing sig guy
                                          • Apr 2002
                                          • 11702
                                          #11
                                          Besides that.. your numbers are outrageous and dont make any sense.

                                          And:

                                          "Our goal is to ramp up to producing at least 20,000 sellable photos and at least 15 videos per month within the next 30-45 days. This, at our current price points, represents $40,000-$45,000 per month in gross sales. We would then look to double our sales in the adult entertainment market by December 2005, and also to expand into different markets such as mainstream fashion, product and editorial."

                                          Sounds great but how are you planning to accomplish that?

                                          Or is that just a detail youll 'work out during the process'?

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                                            • Workshop_Willy
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                                              • Oct 2004
                                              • 452
                                              #12
                                              Well, I appreciate your input, but you don't understand this side of the business, apparently..

                                              I can sell as many photos as I can shoot. That's something I should have made more clear. It's a piece of cake to shoot 20,000 photos and 15 videos in a month.

                                              I've (ahem) done enough of it to know that, and I suppose my mistake on this aspect of the plan is not to have pointed that out. I'm just assuming that everyone here knows about the workflow of production photography.

                                              "Outrageous" is innaccurate. "Realistic" would be accurate, but how can I expect you to know that? You're "thinking" about my numbers and not "doing" my numbers.
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                                                • Doctor Dre
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 51692
                                                  #13
                                                  This almost sound like Ticketmedia lol
                                                  Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                  I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                    • Theo
                                                      HAL 9000
                                                      • May 2001
                                                      • 34515
                                                      #14
                                                      can i see some samples of the things you have shot so far?

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                                                        • Workshop_Willy
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                                                          • Oct 2004
                                                          • 452
                                                          #15
                                                          Yes, it's in the original post but here's the URL again:

                                                          http://www.trickedmedia.com/index-investor.html

                                                          Thanks for taking a look!
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                                                            • Theo
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                                                              • May 2001
                                                              • 34515
                                                              #16
                                                              for some reason my browser doesnt want to load the shockwave,ill try with opera

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                                                                • Workshop_Willy
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                                                                  • 452
                                                                  #17
                                                                  I use Mozilla Firebird. You might try that if Opera doesn't work. I'll look into this.
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                                                                    • Peter Romero
                                                                      Long time no happy ending
                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                      • 10602
                                                                      #18
                                                                      He doesn't have an idea, no equipment, no money, and without a clue coming to GFY - send money. Same as the first post. And, stop bumping your own thread... it just proves that no-one is interested.



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                                                                        • Workshop_Willy
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                                                                          • 452
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by POV Porn guy
                                                                          He doesn't have an idea, no equipment...
                                                                          You didn't read the investor page. Or look at any of the photos? If you did, you'd know I have both equipment and an idea.

                                                                          Or are you just trying to influence others against reading it?

                                                                          You're either talking out your ass or lying through your teeth.
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                                                                            • evanmorgan
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                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                              • 2490
                                                                              #20
                                                                              your better off asking your relatives, my mum is giving me my pocket money early this month....
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                                                                                • Rob
                                                                                  I'm a great bowler.
                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                  • 13310
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Workshop_Willy
                                                                                  "Outrageous" is innaccurate. "Realistic" would be accurate, but how can I expect you to know that? You're "thinking" about my numbers and not "doing" my numbers.
                                                                                  If your numbers are as great as you proclaim then why would you need financial backing? I'm just curious as to why someone that not only shoots that many shots but claims that it's "simple" would need financial assistance.

                                                                                  If you can sell them as fast as you can shoot them then it should be a revolving door and you shouldn't need any startup capital.

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                                                                                    • Peter Romero
                                                                                      Long time no happy ending
                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                      • 10602
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by HighOnAcid
                                                                                      If your numbers are as great as you proclaim then why would you need financial backing? I'm just curious as to why someone that not only shoots that many shots but claims that it's "simple" would need financial assistance.

                                                                                      If you can sell them as fast as you can shoot them then it should be a revolving door and you shouldn't need any startup capital.
                                                                                      What he said.


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                                                                                        • Workshop_Willy
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                                                                                          • Oct 2004
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Well as it says on the investor page, I haven't been concentrating on shooting for the past year. I've done some shooting, but only sporadically and then it has involved travel.

                                                                                          I can produce documentation and verification of those numbers to any serious investor.

                                                                                          By the way, all rancor aside, I am learning about what questions I should be addressing up front from all of this give and take. If nothing else comes out of this, that has. Thanks.
                                                                                          Last edited by Workshop_Willy; 11-26-2004, 09:32 AM.
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                                                                                            • Workshop_Willy
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                                                                                              • 452
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Not to bump my post, but I tracked down the portfolio Flash issue which may have affected some of your impressions.

                                                                                              In Microshit Internet Exploder, there is an issue with embedding Shockwave out of the box. I changed the source code on the page, and now all of you using MSIE should be able to view the Portfolio Page showing samples of my past work.
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                                                                                                • Rob
                                                                                                  I'm a great bowler.
                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                  • 13310
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Workshop_Willy
                                                                                                  ...Portfolio Page showing samples of my past work.
                                                                                                  Not to sound mean but lighting is a VERY IMPORTANT aspect of photography.

                                                                                                  I wish you the best.

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                                                                                                    • Workshop_Willy
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                                                                                                      • 452
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Hmmm..... not sure how to take that. The samples include various lighting setups and filter combinations. A few of them take advantage of natural light.

                                                                                                      If you mean that the model isn't absolutely flooded with lots of light a'la "amateur" model photography, you're right. None of these samples are. However, having shot lots images for ATK, and assuming you prefer to see that, I have samples of those too.

                                                                                                      Pick your poison Chong ! And thanks for your input!
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                                                                                                        • Rob
                                                                                                          I'm a great bowler.
                                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                                          • 13310
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          A couple of examples.



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                                                                                                            • Peter Romero
                                                                                                              Long time no happy ending
                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                              • 10602
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by HighOnAcid
                                                                                                              A couple of examples.



                                                                                                              First picture: Great model... HORRIBLE picture of her (looks like here) buck teeth. Bad lighting (Tungsten) & shadows.

                                                                                                              Second picture: can't see the 2 things that interest anyone watching or wanting to watch porn - face & pussy.

                                                                                                              Hey, you asked. TWICE!

                                                                                                              You shoot for ATK? Karups? Thanks, I'm contacting them now to solicit my production services.
                                                                                                              Last edited by Peter Romero; 11-26-2004, 10:38 AM.


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                                                                                                                • Workshop_Willy
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                                                                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                  • 452
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Yes, I rather like both of those.

                                                                                                                  The picture on top used all natural light, no flash or fill to give it that warm glow. The morning light in that kitchen is exceptional year-round.

                                                                                                                  The bottom one used a strobe w/umbrella on about %50 power as a soft fill at around 45% camera right. I wanted a shadow over her crotch, but not a full one. I also wanted to catch the sunlight through the picture window to camera left without cancelling it out.
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                                                                                                                    • Workshop_Willy
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by POV Porn guy
                                                                                                                      Second picture: can't see the 2 things that interest anyone watching or wanting to watch porn - face & pussy.

                                                                                                                      Hey, you asked. TWICE!

                                                                                                                      You shoot for ATK? Karups? Thanks, I'm contacting them now to solicit my production services.
                                                                                                                      Be my guest. These particular shots weren't taken for ATK or Karups, they were taken for me.

                                                                                                                      By the way, I suppose I should add a word here about the dangers of thinking that your particular taste in erotic photography encompasses the entire definition. These examples are glamour and playboy style, respectively. There are PORN shots on the portfolio that neither of you have mentioned.
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                                                                                                                        • Peter Romero
                                                                                                                          Long time no happy ending
                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                          • 10602
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Workshop_Willy
                                                                                                                          Yes, I rather like both of those.

                                                                                                                          The picture on top used all natural light, no flash or fill to give it that warm glow. The morning light in that kitchen is exceptional year-round.

                                                                                                                          The bottom one used a strobe w/umbrella on about %50 power as a soft fill at around 45% camera right. I wanted a shadow over her crotch, but not a full one. I also wanted to catch the sunlight through the picture window to camera left without cancelling it out.
                                                                                                                          Then you tried & succeeded at something - shooting 2 really bad photos. congrats - you are good at sucking.


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                                                                                                                            • Workshop_Willy
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                                                                                                                              • Oct 2004
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by POV Porn guy
                                                                                                                              Then you tried & succeeded at something - shooting 2 really bad photos. congrats - you are good at sucking.
                                                                                                                              Wow POV. I mean, if I suck, why do you bother? Ya know what I mean?


                                                                                                                              Featured Photo, Shutterpoint.com December 2003:


                                                                                                                              3rd most viewed Photo, Shutterpoint.com December 2003:
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                                                                                                                                • TheMob
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                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  oh my god.. this is gonna get dramatic

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                                                                                                                                    • Workshop_Willy
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                                                                                                                                      ROFLMAO
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                                                                                                                                        • Peter Romero
                                                                                                                                          Long time no happy ending
                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 10602
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Workshop_Willy
                                                                                                                                          Wow POV. I mean, if I suck, why do you bother? Ya know what I mean?


                                                                                                                                          Featured Photo, Shutterpoint.com December 2003:


                                                                                                                                          3rd most viewed Photo, Shutterpoint.com December 2003:
                                                                                                                                          Well, that's a good picture... but this is PORN market - show us the good PORN pictures that you shoot.


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                                                                                                                                            • Greg Jacobson
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              What is going on in this photo?

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                                                                                                                                                • Workshop_Willy
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                                                                                                                                                  Hmmm..... OH, you mean the hyper-intelligently thought out stuff! sure, here ya go.





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                                                                                                                                                    • Workshop_Willy
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                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Greg Jacobson
                                                                                                                                                      What is going on in this photo?
                                                                                                                                                      I like to get a shot or two of the model making funny faces. This was one of them.
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                                                                                                                                                        • Peter Romero
                                                                                                                                                          Long time no happy ending
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                                                                                                                                                          • 10602
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Workshop_Willy
                                                                                                                                                          Hmmm..... OH, you mean the hyper-intelligently thought out stuff! sure, here ya go.
                                                                                                                                                          Funny... Flame is an old friend of mine. I just got off the phone with her.


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                                                                                                                                                            • Workshop_Willy
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                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by POV Porn guy
                                                                                                                                                              Funny... Flame is an old friend of mine. I just got off the phone with her.
                                                                                                                                                              No shit? If her mother and I ever decide to make the leap, she'll be my step-daughter. Tell her I said HI. I'm sure I'll talk to her later. She was my business partner at 29 Productions, by the way.
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                                                                                                                                                                • Raven
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Workshop_Willy
                                                                                                                                                                  Well as it says on the investor page, I haven't been concentrating on shooting for the past year. I've done some shooting, but only sporadically and then it has involved travel.

                                                                                                                                                                  I can produce documentation and verification of those numbers to any serious investor.

                                                                                                                                                                  By the way, all rancor aside, I am learning about what questions I should be addressing up front from all of this give and take. If nothing else comes out of this, that has. Thanks.
                                                                                                                                                                  What bothers me is your lack of constancy or consistency.

                                                                                                                                                                  You state you've sold what you've created; but, that word 'sporadic' would be enough to scare anyone.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Workshop_Willy
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                                                                                                                                                                      That's a fair enough statement. Shooting has been sporadic because my focus has been on digital image manipulation and server management for the past year. I believe I explained that in the investors' information page.

                                                                                                                                                                      Quite simply, I haven't been spending my time doing what I love, which is to shoot. I've been spending it fixing server problems and retouching other peoples' pictures (which both are tedious and low-paying activities, by the way).

                                                                                                                                                                      I'm now coming back to what I love. As I mentioned to POV, "Flame" was my business partner last fall just when we were doing well. The partnership ended not over any business trouble or even personal animosity (there were and are none), but because she and her husband decided to move back east where he is from. That simple.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • kmanrox
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 29295
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          where does it say how much you spent on marketing to make those numbers happen?
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              It doesn't, because I didn't. We simply solicited our services to key people whom we knew to buy content.
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