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Rose 09-22-2001 05:38 PM

Sure does Rip
They catch guy with fake passport, but
they let him go an bail, instead putting him
on first plane back home

Vengeance 09-22-2001 05:45 PM

How's this for a new system then Rip:

Enter the country with a fake passport, go to prison. Go directly to prison. Do not pass Go. Do not collect a green card. And spend the next 90 years making big rocks into little rocks.

Sounds like a plan to me.

JakeR 09-22-2001 06:11 PM

good plan http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/rolleyes.gif

iceyone 09-22-2001 06:18 PM

I did not read this whole thread but I believe the technology is called a smart card?????

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Rip 09-22-2001 11:06 PM

Yeah the guy they caught a couple years ago crossing the border into Port Angeles, with the homemade explosives is his car, was just lucky to have been caught by an alert customs officer

I heard that he was denied refugee status, but was collecting welfare while he waited

The sad part is the 'security' people the airlines hire are lucky if they make minimum wage, and get 1/1000th of the training of a customs officer

UnseenWorld 09-23-2001 12:12 AM

Rip:

I guess I don't understand why a bar code can't be copied, stolen, or misappropriated just the same way a credit card or passport can. What can a bar code do that is so speciaL?

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Blondy 09-23-2001 09:53 AM

great idea. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

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12clicks 09-23-2001 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JakeR:
Don't give me that 'core value' bullshit if carnivore and echelon are already known to be in full swing right now.

I'm going to 2 CLOSED casket funerals on monday for life-long freinds of mine that were working at the Morgan Stanely offices during the attack.

I'm sure they, along with the other 6000+ dead wouldn't have minded giving up certain privacy issues.

Jack, I didn't want you to think your melodramatics scared me away.

The under educated in our society always think its a good idea to give something up in return for security. (they aren't bright enough to come up with plans like the ones Rose proposes. Her idea my not be perfect but its a whole lot better than having law abiding citizens of the US give up their privacy so that we can continue to let murderers into our country.


Andy S 09-23-2001 11:57 PM

this idea might come out to be true after all...

[url=http://www.drudgereport.com/id.htm[/url]

Andy S 09-24-2001 12:00 AM

click

sorry

Rip 09-24-2001 09:06 AM

It is really not a matter of IF rather WHEN

Prior to the Sept 11 tragedy, for crossing the border where we are, there was what was called a 'Pace' lane for border travellers, which they would apply for a special identification sticker, on their vehicle

This allowed them to bypass the line ups and move quickly through the border crossings

I am guessing that an ID such as this would be used at airports and border crossings,

if you have it... you go through quickly, if you don't then you line up with the rest of the people, where now it is taking some times 4 to 6 hours to cross the border

I can't see it being a big problem for most people unless you are a recreational drug user... then perhaps you wouldn't like it, right now I hazard a guess that not a lot of drugs are making it across the borders right now anyways

JakeR 09-24-2001 10:28 AM

"In a survey released Wednesday by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, seven out of 10 Americans favored a requirement that citizens carry a national identity card at all times to show to a police officer upon request."


Amputate Your Head 09-24-2001 10:50 AM

Why would that be any harder to forge than a passport? All that will accomplish is more revenue for the forgers.

12clicks 09-24-2001 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JakeR:
to show to a police officer upon request."

our constitution (and thankfully our courts) call this an illegal search. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

Kimmykim 09-24-2001 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks:
our constitution (and thankfully our courts) call this an illegal search. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif
Glad at least one person here knows that.

Rose 09-24-2001 02:40 PM

to show to a police officer upon request
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That's what they had in old Soviet Union

Kimmykim 09-24-2001 03:01 PM

Bingo Rose!! And they didn't call it a democracy or a republic over there did they!

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PornMeister 09-25-2001 04:03 AM

lol

that's what they have all around Europe. And nobody care because it is rarely ever used.
I don't feel supressed or controlled just because I have to have some kind of ID with me

12clicks 09-25-2001 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PornMeister:

I don't feel supressed or controlled just because I have to have some kind of ID with me

there's a whole lot of things europeans don't miss simply because they never had it to begin with.



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