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How can they build 100k hits TGP for 2000$ ???

11-24-2004, 07:38 PM

They say with stable traffic ...

if you're not a complete dumbass you should be able to make at least, at LEAST 500$/month...

So the ROI is 4 months ... after that it's pure profit ?

If such a thing is possible why don't they keep the sites for themself ?

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11-24-2004, 07:39 PM

building traffic and coverting traffic are 2 seperate things.
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11-24-2004, 07:40 PM

Well I'm truly good at converting traffic ... so it might be a good deal for me ?!?!!?!?

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11-24-2004, 07:43 PM

i'm pretty skeptic if its actually legit non bullshit traffic.
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11-24-2004, 07:44 PM

me too ... that's why I'm asking for your opinions ...

well the worst case senario I'll lost 2k$

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11-24-2004, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by qw12er
me too ... that's why I'm asking for your opinions ...

well the worst case senario I'll lost 2k$

Actually it won't be even that bad because you will at least make "something" so that would cut the 2k down a bit

Just had a 2nd thought........... don't forget your hosting cost for 100k tgp ?

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11-24-2004, 07:50 PM

Well I've seen DamageX around for quite some time and I have a few trades going with some of the sites he's built so I can say he isn't BS traffic.

MGPbuilders seem to be legit aswell but I have only talked with them once or twice. You have to look at at like anything else. It's a service, they have prefected their ways of building sites so they can offer the service at a reasonable price.

and btw you should make more than $500 on a 100k site.. hell I have a 50k site that makes more than that per month.

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11-24-2004, 07:50 PM

yup I've tough of that ...

but I know how to convert traffic ... so if you give me a 100k TGP don't worry I'll be able to pay my expenses

I have nothing to advertise ... yet.
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11-24-2004, 07:59 PM

i'm debating taking the plunge. i work for a hosting company so i get most things at cost. could help with the ROI quite a bit.
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11-24-2004, 08:14 PM

Return Of Investment.

it's the time it took your investment to repay itself.

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11-24-2004, 08:44 PM

I can get 50,000 hits easy but I rather get 5,000 hits of quality traffic

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11-24-2004, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by qw12er
yup I've tough of that ...

but I know how to convert traffic ... so if you give me a 100k TGP don't worry I'll be able to pay my expenses

Your trade partners also determine how much money you make. You can have a lot of traffic but make relatively little money from sales. If a third party grows the site for you then you have no choice who you trade with.
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11-24-2004, 09:42 PM

If I had some extra money to throw around I would do it...

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11-24-2004, 09:58 PM

the 3rd month most trade will die and you will be left with a 15k shitty tgp

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11-24-2004, 10:00 PM

see sig, and your 100k TGP will make 10K US per month. trust me.
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11-24-2004, 10:06 PM

I've made sold tgps . (And the person that started me up, Jenny, wich has probably been the biggest bilder/ seller of trading tgps for couple years) .

It's not too hard to do when you got stable traffic going on and are pretty good at making high prod traffic sites.

The thing is that if you aren't as good as the person who started it, your tgp will crash eventually . It's not THAT hard to maintain it when it's at that level thought . Doable for anybody who got basic experience and is not a complete dumbass with good designs).

Take an example of Xapster with Teeniesxxx. He bought the site from us when it was small and unstable and grew it really really big (it became bigger then my site and jenny's site wich were probably the 2 biggest trading teen tgps back then) .

Props to this guy . he had fresh ideas (first nice thumb tgp and such) and got a very stable going tgp going from a bought tgp .

Thoses don't run itself, but if you put work into it, you can be very succesfull

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11-24-2004, 10:09 PM

Also, one of the big problems with trading tgps is that the ammount of clicks to galleries isn't as good as a bookmark based tgp . (not nearly ... You get a LOT more clicks to your site by a bookmarker, he dosen't change sites that easily . The prod increase a lot when you got a name and you can put your skim way higher) .

So if like many people in this business you aren't "too good" at catching the surfer attention on a single look and need branding (needs that your surfer see many times the same website before buying it ...), it's very hard to convert general tgp traffic .

That's why some Niche tgpsare making really good money with 10x less traffic then big tgps .

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11-24-2004, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by DavidVH
i'm pretty skeptic if its actually legit non bullshit traffic.

it's totally non bullshit ... as I said, xapster started on a tgp like that . However, it's not for ass grabbers that don't work at all . You need to put serious time in the content / trades you got and optimise your designs as much as you can .

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I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
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11-24-2004, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by MetaMan
building traffic and coverting traffic are 2 seperate things.

Wise words and extremely true.

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11-24-2004, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by crockett
Well I've seen DamageX around for quite some time and I have a few trades going with some of the sites he's built so I can say he isn't BS traffic.

MGPbuilders seem to be legit aswell but I have only talked with them once or twice. You have to look at at like anything else. It's a service, they have prefected their ways of building sites so they can offer the service at a reasonable price.

and btw you should make more than $500 on a 100k site.. hell I have a 50k site that makes more than that per month.

Damange X business looks stable . He's not the most present guy arround here but he's well known at some other boards .

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11-24-2004, 10:13 PM

This is what happes with me, i made mpg..after a while it went to 50k. I ignored the site for about 3 weeks. Trades died and the site is at 8k. Thats creazy, well no wories i am working on a sweet design now, i will get it to 100k in 4 months

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11-24-2004, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by rayadp05

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11-24-2004, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
(needs that your surfer see many times the same website before buying it ...)

Wow i never though of that. I mostly ignored the bookmarks, this time around i will skim at 70% to galls.

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11-24-2004, 10:16 PM

Or just do it like how many webmasters do it...

1) buy domain

2) build traffic

3) sell

4) go to line 1 and repeat

Hell, if you have such a technique (building 100K legit in less than a month), why not just farm out the work to an offshore company like Webmasterlabor.com and sell when you hit the 100K sustainable mark?

Costs: domain name, hosting, offshore promo labor (Webmasterlabor fees)

Revenue: $2K or so for the site

Do several dozen of these and it would amount to some nice $.

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11-24-2004, 10:18 PM

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Wow i never though of that. I mostly ignored the bookmarks, this time around i will skim at 70% to galls.

What do you preffer, a surfer that visit 12 of your galleries or a surfer that visit 2-4 ... I'd take 12 anytime

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11-24-2004, 10:20 PM

Are fake TGP's you update everyday the best ?
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11-24-2004, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by $5 submissions
Or just do it like how many webmasters do it...

1) buy domain

2) build traffic

3) sell

4) go to line 1 and repeat

Hell, if you have such a technique (building 100K legit in less than a month), why not just farm out the work to an offshore company like Webmasterlabor.com and sell when you hit the 100K sustainable mark?

Costs: domain name, hosting, offshore promo labor (Webmasterlabor fees)

Revenue: $2K or so for the site

Do several dozen of these and it would amount to some nice $.

Just a thought.

You have it or not at a certain point . I wouldn't trust outsource compagnies to optimise my site .

They are good for basic tasks but nothing complicated ... look at the designs produced by xxxoutsourcing . Nothing out of common

Originally posted by rayadp05

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11-24-2004, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by Kard63
Are fake TGP's you update everyday the best ?

What do YOU think ?

Originally posted by rayadp05

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11-24-2004, 10:22 PM

I'm out to sleep . cya tomorow I'l refresh that thread in the morning

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11-24-2004, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
I'm out to sleep . cya tomorow I'l refresh that thread in the morning

ya i would like to more from you, i can tell you know a lot about tgps

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11-24-2004, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by Jonathan Quarkschowski
see sig, and your 100k TGP will make 10K US per month. trust me.

I don't feel like I got a lot of info from your site.
What does it do?
You keep saying "put up our link and make money"...no offense but, no fucking shit! That's how everything else works too.

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11-24-2004, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by Kard63
Are fake TGP's you update everyday the best ?

How is it a fake TGP if you update everyday?

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11-24-2004, 10:49 PM

I am also thinking about investing those 2k$...it sounds really good to me,will have to check more how much is that traffic stable
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11-25-2004, 05:16 AM

Originally posted by blackmonsters
I don't feel like I got a lot of info from your site.
What does it do?
You keep saying "put up our link and make money"...no offense but, no fucking shit! That's how everything else works too.

He's a troll

Originally posted by rayadp05

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11-25-2004, 05:31 AM

Originally posted by blackmonsters
I don't feel like I got a lot of info from your site.
What does it do?
You keep saying "put up our link and make money"...no offense but, no fucking shit! That's how everything else works too.

it's a BS spyware program that will get your 100k TGP banned on all your trades so you would then have a 0k TGP.

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11-27-2004, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by crockett
it's a BS spyware program that will get your 100k TGP banned on all your trades so you would then have a 0k TGP.

yeah, It's active X junk.

Doctor Dre, thanks for the info man. Good shit. Can I ask a noob question about TGP's? How in the blue hell can you go from a 50k TGP to a 8k TGP just by NOT tending to the trades. The way I understand it, is if you have comus or a prog like that, it auto handles how much your trades are sending you and how much you're sending out. So I assume the only real task would be to make sure that your killing unproductive trades asap and making sure theres no dead links. I'm not saying TGP's are no brainers, I know there's a lot of thought going into converting the traffic into profit, but the question is, once your trades are built up, how can you lose that traffic if you're trading with established sites?

I dont run/own any TGP's, I'm just curious.

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11-27-2004, 10:35 AM

Running a TGP/MGP is a full time business.

These big players sit around all day long watching their trades. I've had the opportunity to work next to some big TGP guys, if you have a lot of traffic, and ignore, people catch on, they will figure out how to drain your site.

You really have to know what you are doing and understand traffic strategy. If you leave your site alone, expect it to go down.
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11-27-2004, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by Jonathan Quarkschowski
see sig, and your 100k TGP will make 10K US per month. trust me.

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11-27-2004, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by crockett
Well I've seen DamageX around for quite some time and I have a few trades going with some of the sites he's built so I can say he isn't BS traffic.

MGPbuilders seem to be legit aswell but I have only talked with them once or twice. You have to look at at like anything else. It's a service, they have prefected their ways of building sites so they can offer the service at a reasonable price.

and btw you should make more than $500 on a 100k site.. hell I have a 50k site that makes more than that per month.

damagex is good, but mgpbuilders say they can do it in a week, thats too quick, damagex takes his time to build a solid site.

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11-27-2004, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by Biggy2
Running a TGP/MGP is a full time business.

These big players sit around all day long watching their trades. I've had the opportunity to work next to some big TGP guys, if you have a lot of traffic, and ignore, people catch on, they will figure out how to drain your site.

You really have to know what you are doing and understand traffic strategy. If you leave your site alone, expect it to go down.

true ... but there's a lot of things that can be atomated ... working on this

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