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Old 11-21-2004, 02:52 AM   #1
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More Iraqi children going hungry since invasion

Why do republicans fight to protect unborn children yet let them starve once they are born?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6541101/

BAGHDAD - Acute malnutrition among young children in Iraq has nearly doubled since the United States led an invasion of the country 20 months ago, according to surveys by the United Nations, aid agencies and the interim Iraqi government.

After the rate of acute malnutrition among children younger than 5 steadily declined to 4 percent two years ago, it shot up to 7.7 percent this year, according to a study conducted by Iraq's Health Ministry in cooperation with Norway's Institute for Applied International Studies and the U.N. Development Program. The new figure translates to roughly 400,000 Iraqi children suffering from "wasting," a condition characterized by chronic diarrhea and dangerous deficiencies of protein.

"These figures clearly indicate the downward trend," said Alexander Malyavin, a child health specialist with the UNICEF mission to Iraq.

Services slow to improve
The surveys suggest the silent human cost being paid across a country convulsed by instability and mismanagement. While attacks by insurgents have grown more violent and more frequent, deteriorating basic services take lives that many Iraqis said they had expected to improve under American stewardship.

Iraq's child malnutrition rate now roughly equals that of Burundi, a central African nation torn by more than a decade of war. It is far higher than rates in Uganda and Haiti.

"The people are astonished," said Khalil M. Mehdi, who directs the Nutrition Research Institute at the Health Ministry. The institute has been involved with nutrition surveys for more than a decade; the latest one was conducted in April and May but has not been publicly released.

Mehdi and other analysts attributed the increase in malnutrition to dirty water and to unreliable supplies of the electricity needed to make it safe by boiling. In poorer areas, where people rely on kerosene to fuel their stoves, high prices and an economy crippled by unemployment aggravate poor health.

"Things have been worse for me since the war," said Kasim Said, a day laborer who was at Baghdad's main children's hospital to visit his ailing year-old son, Abdullah. The child, lying on a pillow with a Winnie the Pooh washcloth to keep the flies off his head, weighs just 11 pounds.

"During the previous regime, I used to work on the government projects. Now there are no projects," his father said.
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Old 11-21-2004, 02:55 AM   #2
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Why do republicans fight to protect unborn children yet let them starve once they are born?
because if the children are brown they could give a fuck.
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Old 11-21-2004, 06:16 AM   #3
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no wonder they hate the US so much
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Old 11-21-2004, 06:20 AM   #4
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thats amazing
i wonder if this report is legit or just an attempt to shift the heat from the oil for food scandel to the us
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Old 11-21-2004, 07:26 AM   #5
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no wonder they hate the US so much
tell me about it..
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Old 11-21-2004, 07:49 AM   #6
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Hell... I'll shut up

That is only a fraction of the problem - tho it's damning enough.
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Old 11-21-2004, 07:54 AM   #7
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what are these kids who are starving because of the us going to become when they grow up? oh thats right... terrorists
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Old 11-21-2004, 08:04 AM   #8
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what are these kids who are starving because of the us going to become when they grow up? oh thats right... terrorists
Mmm.. sadly some will, - tho I'd think their parents may be a more imminent problem.

Ya can't blame everything on the US, - tho it's clear that bombing the shit out of a place and being unable to slide in support is problematic. That timescale has probably got a lot to do with the "Iraqi fighters" (not "insurgents"), now.

What would you do if your country was under occupation and little progress since the invasion?

BTW.. Yea.. I know there are 4 million new schools and water is running - the problem is it ain't.
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Old 11-21-2004, 08:38 AM   #9
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because if the children are brown they could give a fuck.
as shameful as that is, but its the plain truth
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Old 11-21-2004, 08:46 AM   #10
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do you honestly think for one second that if the US troops weren't there these kids would be eating?

Do you not realize this is a country where the leader (saddam) pretty much took every penny of aid sent to iraq and put it into building palaces... I never saw him handing out MRE's to hungry kids like the troops do

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Old 11-21-2004, 08:50 AM   #11
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what are these kids who are starving because of the us going to become when they grow up? oh thats right... terrorists
Exactly, because if any of them survive they're going to remember what the US did to them, and they're going to try to do something to prevent it happening to their own children.

You call it terrorism - but you're a bunch of war mongering cowards.
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Old 11-21-2004, 12:31 PM   #12
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do you honestly think for one second that if the US troops weren't there these kids would be eating?

Do you not realize this is a country where the leader (saddam) pretty much took every penny of aid sent to iraq and put it into building palaces... I never saw him handing out MRE's to hungry kids like the troops do

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Actually they were eating just fine before the sanctions.
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Old 11-21-2004, 02:37 PM   #13
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Actually they were eating just fine before the sanctions.
Myth: Sanctions prohibit humanitarian contributions to Iraq.
Fact: Sanctions do not prohibit humanitarian contributions, Saddam does. Since June 1998, Saddam has publicly refused a number of humanitarian contributions while claiming that his people are suffering.
Myth: The international community has not taken measures to care for the Iraqi people.
Fact: The UN designed the oil-for-food program in 1991 -- unprecedented in size and scope--to provide food and medicine for the Iraqi people. Saddam rejected it outright for four years and then slow-rolled it for another year and a half. The substantial expansion over the years has increased provisions for Iraqis. The international community continues to look for ways to improve the program, despite Saddam's effort to undermine humanitarian efforts.


according to the state department Saddam was the reason people starved during the sanctions?
http://www.state.gov/p/nea/rls/01fs/3935.htm
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Old 11-21-2004, 02:57 PM   #14
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according to the state department Saddam was the reason people starved during the sanctions?
http://www.state.gov/p/nea/rls/01fs/3935.htm
Yea, like thats an unbiased report
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Old 11-21-2004, 03:01 PM   #15
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Yea, like thats an unbiased report
Yes, and likewise you have another reputable source to counter it? I would like to read it. Thanks.
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Old 11-21-2004, 05:43 PM   #16
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Why is it that almost many topics on GFY is no more than a load of idiots trying to defend something - ususally some country?

Do you really think it matters a damn when you are starving to listen to a load of warped bile?

I don't give a fuck where these children are or how they are in that condition.

They deserve as much as the GFY mob out of life. Would you see your own children in this condition?

If you have made the effort to post some crap about them, - are you going to make the effort to do anything for them or any other children who are starving, abused or whatever??

I doubt that. All talk and bullshit about "reports", "Saddam", the UN and "reputable sources". Walk the walk and quit talking the talk.



PS.. Don't even come back with an "attack response" - I know what I'm talking about and have witnessed first hand and done something about it - least the little I could do along with others who don't just talk.
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Old 11-21-2004, 06:25 PM   #17
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I care about the homeless kids in my country. I could give a fuck less about the kids in Iraq.

Jaded but so so true
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:39 PM   #18
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It's a simple solution. Stop blowing up truck convoys and beheading the drivers.

Most of Iraq food is being imported by non-Iraqis who are affraid of being killed.
have you read the article?

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Mehdi and other analysts attributed the increase in malnutrition to dirty water and to unreliable supplies of the electricity needed to make it safe by boiling. In poorer areas, where people rely on kerosene to fuel their stoves, high prices and an economy crippled by unemployment aggravate poor health.
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These kids can't vote for the republicans so they don't care...
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Old 11-22-2004, 02:31 AM   #20
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Actually they were eating just fine before the sanctions.
Now it's no freedom, no food and a lot of war
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Feed the little fuckers some oil.....or the blood of our soldiers.....or the fucking qu'ran.
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Old 11-22-2004, 04:21 AM   #22
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you getting all this dubya?
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