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09-20-2001, 12:51 AM

OK... here's my prob.

For some stupid reason, alot of the local stripper gals found out what I did and came and talked to me. They want to do some shoots, but I really don't do and don't have the equipment for that. These are all some sweet looking amateur chicks just wanting some extra cash... anyone have any ideas? Is this how all you content providers started? I want nothing of it... gots more damn women knocking at my door than I know what to do with. Guess I gotta take some sample pics to sell to ya guys, or maybe I can get Suze to pick up a few or them, they're all gorgeous!

What the fuck? I got fine babes knocking on my door wanting to take their clothes off, and I got to turn on my pc, lol... what a fucking nerd I'm turning into. Gimme some damn ideas please, I got at least 15 right now, and I'm sure they all got friends. ;-) What's the norm figure, how much should I offer these gals for a couple shoots? Email me private if you want, I really would like to do something with these chicks... webmaster at xxxforu.com

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09-20-2001, 01:02 AM

Hey Paul -

Just a couple of quick tips...

Strippers are the worst. The most unreliable, flakey chicks in the world, but they are dumb too so here's whatcha gotta do.

Tell them you do the first shoot free... meaning you don't pay them a dime. You have to see if it's even worth it. Even a real hot and horny stripper can be a total dud in front of a camera. This will weed out at least half of them who expect a million dollars cuz their picture is on the internet.

Once you have a smaller group of ones that are willing to work and are capable you will have more options. Post some pics and maybe tell us your location. Their are a lot of content re-sellers and things like that which may be able to help you.

This really isn't my thing so I may be way off base but that's my nickels worth.

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09-20-2001, 01:11 AM

Well, see there's my dilema... these chicks are really starting to bother me. Should I just take a sample photo of each one with my digital camera? I got folks who will do shoots for me, but that costs money or favors, and I really don't want to waste neither! Should I have them take a small series to send out to the major providers, these gals are all great looking, trust me I look at alot of naked women every day... Just don't want to promise them what I can't get them, or if I pay for all the shoots and keep it exclusive, want to know how much is the norm, or maybe I can make them all a small paysite, but shit I don't have time for that.

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09-20-2001, 01:13 AM

While you're at it, why not tell the 10 yr old down the street he needs to cut your yard for free for a month to make sure you like his style...

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09-20-2001, 01:15 AM

A clthed shot sent out to jayman and UnSeen, guys like that that handle amateur to get their ideas might be your better starting point.

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09-20-2001, 01:18 AM

I'm picking up on your sarcasm Gemini

but the reason I told him that was because it was exactly what I did about 6 months ago. I am a strip club fanatic so naturally I had a few girls that were interested in taking some pics. They had never done it before and I was not about to lay down 1 or 200 bucks for some pictures of a girl who didn't even know how to pose. It proved to be a damn good strategy cuz I had 3 girls go for it and 2 of them were horrible. The one that wasn't made up for it...

Trust me strippers are not professional models that know better. If they think you may build a site around them or start doing a shoot with them every week if they work out, they will give you a freebie.

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09-20-2001, 01:19 AM

While you're at it, why not tell the 10 yr old down the street he needs to cut your yard for free for a month to make sure you like his style...

You trying to insinuate that I deal in CP? What the fuck kind of statement is that?

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09-20-2001, 01:22 AM

*I* danced Truth. Not strip but all the same. Headlined for years in fact. One way to do that would be to give 2 of the best 50 each for an hour and see if that shoot pans out...

Or another, advertise for those of us who might be interested in a certain girl with clothed shots availabe. Then contract with us to do the shoot for a set amount on exclusive rights. We'd foot the bill etc. We'd as in the interested webmaster etc.

Just freelance contract the work, make some bucks on your time and be able to pay the girls a decent wage for it. With the possibility of repeat shoots. Just some stray thoughts.

Sorry Truth, if you heard all the scams a dancer hears and gets taken so often in them usually, you'd understand why so many go lesbian. They *are* humans too.

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09-20-2001, 01:24 AM

Paul I was simply pointing out that to lie to them or cop a free shoot is not real ethical. It had nothing to do with CP silly. lol

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09-20-2001, 01:28 AM

Gemini -

I know all the stories... in fact my addiction to the "gentlemans clubs" has ended up in more than 1 relationship with "dancers" which is probably why I have such a low opinion of them. Anyway, I see your point of view. Now is a time for peace !!!

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09-20-2001, 01:31 AM

Exxxactly! Hmmm strippers are a world unto their own tho. We had a joint close by the place I worked and they never grasped why we made more than they did.

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09-20-2001, 01:37 AM

Kewl Gem... just a weird comment!

You could of said the 18 year old down the street though. Statements like that just keep me from coming in here, sure I make money, I've been working hard at it for 5 years, and now these girls want a piece. I don't even go to strip clubs, they came to me, they found out I shot on a pool league.

So you're saying take fully clothed samples? Who's going to want to pick up on that? Lol, I feel like a newbie all the sudden, but isn't the point of it how good a girl (or guy for some of you) looks like with no clothes on? Maybe the best deal would be an ongoing partnership with my already established paysite? Sure save me some money on Matrix and all the others, not to mention it would be exclusive. I supply the traffic, they supply the content... it could possibly work out. Problem is they want money up front, and I'm not willing to shell out this month's profits on a half brain idea. Maybe I've just gotten set on my ways, I'm sure they could sell the site one on one in the clubs, maybe that would be the way to go! Thay work at 6 or more of the local clubs. I just need some damn ideas, maybe go non-exclusive and have some of you guys help out out with these women. Ideas, ideas, ideas... I need em' sign ups have gone to hell with the current economy, already have 90 declines this month, so I'm looking too!

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09-20-2001, 01:43 AM

Sorry XXX I went for the 10 over 18 since alot of people think that dancers all have the minds of kids. You know the stereotype thing. lol

I meant clothed with plenty showing (equals some free samples to show about and yet they never get shown nude if no one wants their shoots)A sample is ok to ask for free. Maybe a shot in the bar where they work with their dancewear on if the owners ok it (GET that in writing)

Hmm hit us on ICQ. Too much to put down to cover every angle in a post.

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09-20-2001, 01:50 AM

Gem,

I uninstalled ICQ a year back because of security probs, I'm dl'ing it now and will hit you up shortly...

Here comes all my extra spam... humm just what I need!

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09-20-2001, 01:53 AM

We still use 99b and hide from AOLh*lls spambots.

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09-20-2001, 04:16 AM

Looks like you'll be changing over to the pimping profession soon.
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09-20-2001, 04:20 AM

Looks like you'll be changing over to the pimping profession soon.

LOL, would that be a promotion then?

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09-20-2001, 05:03 AM

Here's how I would do it! If my wife let me go to the strip clubs.

Sign a contract with each one offering them 60% (after expences)(whatever % split is fair, I don't know) for all proceeds from content providers.

Include in the contract that YOU have rights to use the pictures in your personal site/gallery promotions as part of the package.

Before spending any real money on a professional photographer, take the pics yourself (true amateur style) and see which girls work the camera the best. You can never have enough amateur content so still take pics of all girls but only spend the $$ on the ones who can give you a return on your investment.

You have nothing to lose and everything to gain

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09-20-2001, 05:11 AM

Rock,

That's the first solid plan I've seen, thanks for the insight.

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09-20-2001, 05:17 AM

XXXforU

I have a few ideas that you could do. It will get them out of your hair without having to actually put in the extra work of shooting or organizng shoots for them.

I have a small model managment firm that is starting up. Send them to me and you can get a % of their income for just sending them to us. We handle all the photo shoots and get contracts for % of shoots so yo can build up a high amount of cash this way.

We can also work out deals with the photographers so you can use the images for content.

There are a lot of options here, and like you said they all have friends.

Where are you located?

Mail me if you want more info.

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09-20-2001, 06:28 AM

I think Paul's gay.

I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.
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09-20-2001, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by 12clicks:
I think Paul's gay.

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09-20-2001, 06:36 AM

Do I make you horny?

I think Paul's gay.

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09-20-2001, 06:40 AM

indeed you do sailor!

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