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Old 11-19-2004, 05:42 AM   #1
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When the fuck are we leaving Iraq

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insurgent leaders in the area offer cash bounties for killing certain kinds of people: $1,000 for a Shiite, $2,000 for a member of the Iraqi National Guard and $3,000 for an American.
these people dont fuck around - either bomb them to the stone age or get our soldiers the fuck home.

i talked to lots of soldiers at schipol airport on a layover this week, and they all say, they cant level a building if theres a sniper in it - they have to make sure there is no innocent people in there. what the fuck?

if im sitting next to you, and you are a sniper - i am not innocent.

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Old 11-19-2004, 05:43 AM   #2
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Maybe after another $200 Billion?
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Old 11-19-2004, 05:46 AM   #3
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Maybe after another $200 Billion?
Na... they just increased the limit of the national debt in the US - they can stretch to more than 200 now :-)

Only problem is.. the new debt figure is around 70% of the total US economy
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Old 11-19-2004, 05:47 AM   #4
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Maybe after another $200 Billion?
yea thats what some of the soldiers were saying too - fucking very sad. they KNOW they are going over there to die for no good reason.
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Old 11-19-2004, 05:49 AM   #5
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The US will leave iraq in 3 or 4 US presidents from now just like Nam.
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Old 11-19-2004, 05:53 AM   #6
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Old 11-19-2004, 05:55 AM   #7
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yea thats what some of the soldiers were saying too - fucking very sad. they KNOW they are going over there to die for no good reason.
I know some kids in the US right now who are on some call up list and due out in the next few months.

When I heard they were sending kids of 18-19 with literally nada experience, - I had this weird idea I should shoot some bastards!!

Yes.. it is damned sad - it's just an abuse of the military.
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Old 11-19-2004, 05:56 AM   #8
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these people dont fuck around - either bomb them to the stone age or get our soldiers the fuck home.

i talked to lots of soldiers at schipol airport on a layover this week, and they all say, they cant level a building if theres a sniper in it - they have to make sure there is no innocent people in there. what the fuck?

if im sitting next to you, and you are a sniper - i am not innocent.

So if a sniper takes over your house with force or the house next door, you are guilty?

As were the waiters, kitchen staff and people eating in the restaurant where the US Intelligence thought Saddam was and they launched a cruise missile to destrot it.

Mike your attitude is the reason why the US and the rest of the world will be paying for Iraq in money and blood for decades.

This attitude is just what the terrorists want.
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Old 11-19-2004, 05:58 AM   #9
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The US will leave iraq in 3 or 4 US presidents from now just like Nam.
I doubt if it will be 12 to 16 years. But they will leave with the same or even more shame than they left Nam with.
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Old 11-19-2004, 06:03 AM   #10
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When did we leave Japan, Germany or S Korea?
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I doubt if it will be 12 to 16 years. But they will leave with the same or even more shame than they left Nam with.
Very little doubt of that!! It's totally unsustainable, - never was sustainable in the first instance.
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Old 11-19-2004, 06:04 AM   #12
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Old 11-19-2004, 06:08 AM   #13
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So if a sniper takes over your house with force or the house next door, you are guilty?
I'd be curious to know how often this is the actual scenario, rather than the surrounding 'innocent' people knowing whats going on. no sarcasm implied.


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As were the waiters, kitchen staff and people eating in the restaurant where the US Intelligence thought Saddam was and they launched a cruise missile to destrot it.

Mike your attitude is the reason why the US and the rest of the world will be paying for Iraq in money and blood for decades.

This attitude is just what the terrorists want.
Take it easy, i think this is the stupidest war in fucking history - ive been against it from day one. i campaigned against bush and gave up my third party vote to try to get rid of him. but you have to accept the fact that we are there now and be realistic, not idealistic.

the terrorists are already getting what they want - innocent people are already being killed every day - thats why im saying, SINCE WE ARE THERE, either do it right, or bring the boys back home.
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Old 11-19-2004, 06:11 AM   #14
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we are never leaving
Yup, UBL and the Saudi kings wanted us out of Saudi Arabia, so we needed to find another staging point for any future conflicts in that part of the world.

One way or another we will always have troops in Iraq.
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Old 11-19-2004, 08:00 AM   #15
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we are never leaving
That's the idea according to Bush, but the way it is starting to look is that they will kick you out
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