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Old 11-18-2004, 01:08 PM   #1
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Anyone Play Piano?????

I just started taking lessons, so I can add keyboards and such to my band, and its slow process........anyone have any advice???
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:11 PM   #2
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Took some lessons in like the second grade... can't play though sorry bro

I can jam on the guitar a bit though
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:13 PM   #3
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I play sax, but only a little bit of keys. Sorry
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:13 PM   #4
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been doing it since I was 4...what'ya wanna know?
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:15 PM   #5
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been doing it since I was 4...what'ya wanna know?
no way! very cool. Well I just started and the keys are weighted, which is different for me, I dunno. Are there any tips you can give me to get better faster, memory tricks to remember what key means what line?? Anything would help.
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:20 PM   #6
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i used to when i was a kid. till my parents sold the piano.
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:27 PM   #7
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i used to when i was a kid. till my parents sold the piano.
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:33 PM   #8
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no way! very cool. Well I just started and the keys are weighted, which is different for me, I dunno. Are there any tips you can give me to get better faster, memory tricks to remember what key means what line?? Anything would help.
whatdya mean?? key means what line??

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Old 11-18-2004, 01:37 PM   #9
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I played for years as a kid, but got my musical mojo all fucked up by playing only Chopin and Mozart. I've since taken up guitar and it's much easier to carry around.

Learn the blues scale in E-flat and then improvise.

Don't forget, it's a percussion instrument so bang on it pretty good.

Jazz chord voicings: hit a regular chord and then tack on a major 7th or 9th... adds flavor to your tone.
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:39 PM   #10
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What other instrument(s) do you play ?

The piano makes music so easy to understand that I almost always recommend that anyone wanting to go into any other instrument learn to play piano first.

I took piano lessons when I was younger but went to guitar as soon as my parents allowed me to. I hated music theory as a child but when I became serious about the guitar I took the time to study it intensively.

It had been so long since I had played but when I go back to it now everything just makes sense. It's the perfect logical represenation of "everything music".

I have such an easy time composing anything on the piano that I often compose pieces on the piano first before transposing them to other instruments, even when the song doesn't include any piano at all. It's just such a free instrument. You can compose in both bass and treble cleff. You can visualize the key signature that you're in much easier than with another instrument etc.
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:45 PM   #11
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actually yes, lol. but the keys dont go in that order,
c, d, e, f, g, a, b......
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:46 PM   #12
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i wish i could piano. i tend to stick to simplier things like guitar.
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:46 PM   #13
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What other instrument(s) do you play ?

The piano makes music so easy to understand that I almost always recommend that anyone wanting to go into any other instrument learn to play piano first.

I took piano lessons when I was younger but went to guitar as soon as my parents allowed me to. I hated music theory as a child but when I became serious about the guitar I took the time to study it intensively.

It had been so long since I had played but when I go back to it now everything just makes sense. It's the perfect logical represenation of "everything music".

I have such an easy time composing anything on the piano that I often compose pieces on the piano first before transposing them to other instruments, even when the song doesn't include any piano at all. It's just such a free instrument. You can compose in both bass and treble cleff. You can visualize the key signature that you're in much easier than with another instrument etc.
very nice post bro! Thanks.
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:48 PM   #14
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actually yes, lol. but the keys dont go in that order,
c, d, e, f, g, a, b......
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Old 11-18-2004, 02:21 PM   #15
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boob I am. Thanks works for me!
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Old 11-18-2004, 02:22 PM   #16
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Old 11-18-2004, 02:25 PM   #17
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Started playing when I was 12. Went to performing arts high school for piano. Then was a piano major in College. Played piano in Jazz band, High school and college. I've also played keyboards in quite a few rock and electronica bands.


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Old 11-18-2004, 02:40 PM   #18
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What other instrument(s) do you play ?

The piano makes music so easy to understand that I almost always recommend that anyone wanting to go into any other instrument learn to play piano first.

I took piano lessons when I was younger but went to guitar as soon as my parents allowed me to. I hated music theory as a child but when I became serious about the guitar I took the time to study it intensively.

It had been so long since I had played but when I go back to it now everything just makes sense. It's the perfect logical represenation of "everything music".

I have such an easy time composing anything on the piano that I often compose pieces on the piano first before transposing them to other instruments, even when the song doesn't include any piano at all. It's just such a free instrument. You can compose in both bass and treble cleff. You can visualize the key signature that you're in much easier than with another instrument etc.
Good post. I agree completely. I started lessons at 4 years old as well....now, I can pick up pretty much any instrument and, give me 10 minutes or so, and I can bang out a reasonably recognizable tune.

Piano is GREAT for learning music basics...theory sucks..haha...but it's well worth the learn if you are serious.
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Old 11-18-2004, 02:42 PM   #19
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Old 11-18-2004, 02:42 PM   #20
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yup I havea degreee in music specializing in Piano from U of T and the Royal conservatory of music..coulda become a concert pianist but I wanted to study psych in university instead...lol
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Old 11-18-2004, 03:06 PM   #21
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Piano is GREAT for learning music basics...theory sucks..haha...but it's well worth the learn if you are serious.
I tend to believe, as a former guitar teacher, that theory is all about how it is taught.

My memories of music theory was writing scales and chords over and over in a book .. memorizing the circle of fifths and doing tons of mundane and boring written excercises. In other words, music theory had very little application as I remember it. It was just boring stuff that had nothing to do with playing.

I never really devised the perfect system for gaining an all-around interest in young people when I was teaching, mostly because I got frustrated with the lack of interest .. most kids I taught just wanted to learn how to play powerchords .. and as someone who took it seriously I quit and started a porn business lol

But the idea is to teach kids theory that they can apply. Keep paper and pencils to a minimum. Instead of having a kids write out scales on a staff have him write a little song or riff and write that out on a staff instead etc. Instead of teaching a kid a song with guitar tab (*shudder*) have him transcribe it into standard notation .. stuff like that can make theory not boring.
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Old 11-18-2004, 03:40 PM   #22
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actually yes, lol. but the keys dont go in that order,
c, d, e, f, g, a, b......
Those are to help you read/remember the treble and bass clef notes.

My teacher taught us:
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It's funny how many different versions people's teachers taught them.

I took from the time I was 5 until almost high school. My parents forced me to and as a result I ended up hating it. Kinda sad. I still gripe at my mom about it, lol.
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Old 11-18-2004, 03:47 PM   #23
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well, there is acoustic piano, and there are keyboards.

the principles of playing are the same, but the sound and touch are different.

the piano is a very complex instrument capable of very beautiful noise, and if you are serious about it and are willing to practice at least 1 hour a day every day you can be reasonably competent in maybe 5 years.

by that i mean you should be able to pickup any piece of sheet music and sit down at any keyboard or piano and play it.

i have played acoustic piano for 40 years, and taught myself to play.

first, learn to read music, both bass and treble clefs---so you know where the keys are for the particular notes you want to play.

buy yourself an old upright piano for a few hundred bucks---get it tuned---use a felt tip sharpie pen and write the note names on the white keys---write the corresponding note names on your sheet music. (by the time you know the notes you will have worn off the magic marker on the keys)

go buy some sheet music of some songs you enjoy---if you don't enjoy the tune practice sessions will be tedious---don't practice playing "mary had a little lamb"---practice with diana krall tunes, or luther vandross, etc. ex: the tune "Dance with my father" is fairly simple to play but very beautiful, and Luther's sheet music sounds just the same as it sounds on the CD---and in 2 weeks you can play it if you follow my advice, and wow your friends---this will inspire you to keep working at pro level pieces.

for example, if you like whitney houston get whitney houston sheet music---there are some free sheet music trading clubs on the net---

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PianoFiles/

join it if you haven't already done so.

some artists have fairly uncomplicated music to play that sounds nice (billy joel, paul simon, james taylor, carole king, burt bacharach, jobim) and some artists have complicated musical arrangements that are more difficult for newbies to play (mariah carey, tori amos, some norah jones, rickie lee jones jazz stuff, some nat king cole, etc) so stick with the simpler, but still pro level stuff to start---this will be more satisfying for you.

but if you want to advance fast and learn to play many different songs you must learn to read music.

get going and have fun.

(nothing sounds better than a big grand piano. nothing.)
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well, there is acoustic piano, and there are keyboards.

the principles of playing are the same, but the sound and touch are different.

the piano is a very complex instrument capable of very beautiful noise, and if you are serious about it and are willing to practice at least 1 hour a day every day you can be reasonably competent in maybe 5 years.

by that i mean you should be able to pickup any piece of sheet music and sit down at any keyboard or piano and play it.

i have played acoustic piano for 40 years, and taught myself to play.

first, learn to read music, both bass and treble clefs---so you know where the keys are for the particular notes you want to play.

buy yourself an old upright piano for a few hundred bucks---get it tuned---use a felt tip sharpie pen and write the note names on the white keys---write the corresponding note names on your sheet music. (by the time you know the notes you will have worn off the magic marker on the keys)

go buy some sheet music of some songs you enjoy---if you don't enjoy the tune practice sessions will be tedious---don't practice playing "mary had a little lamb"---practice with diana krall tunes, or luther vandross, etc. ex: the tune "Dance with my father" is fairly simple to play but very beautiful, and Luther's sheet music sounds just the same as it sounds on the CD---and in 2 weeks you can play it if you follow my advice, and wow your friends---this will inspire you to keep working at pro level pieces.

for example, if you like whitney houston get whitney houston sheet music---there are some free sheet music trading clubs on the net---

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PianoFiles/

join it if you haven't already done so.

some artists have fairly uncomplicated music to play that sounds nice (billy joel, paul simon, james taylor, carole king, burt bacharach, jobim) and some artists have complicated musical arrangements that are more difficult for newbies to play (mariah carey, tori amos, some norah jones, rickie lee jones jazz stuff, some nat king cole, etc) so stick with the simpler, but still pro level stuff to start---this will be more satisfying for you.

but if you want to advance fast and learn to play many different songs you must learn to read music.

get going and have fun.

(nothing sounds better than a big grand piano. nothing.)
awesome man. Thats what I'm doing, I'm learning to read, from a classical player. Great advice man!
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