81% of websites in the UK are breaking the law! - GoFuckYourself.com

volante · 11-14-2004, 02:53 AM

http://www.abilitynet.org.uk/content.../Accessweb.htm

"The Law -

It has been law since 1999 to have an accessible website. Now we are seeing civil litigation and the Disability Rights Commission (DRC) has served notice that they will also be taking legal action against organisations in the near future.

Boost your website?s reach ?

An inaccessible site may exclude a significant proportion of your customers. There are 8.6 million people with disabilities in the UK with a cumulative disposable income of nearly £50 billion (Institute of Employment Studies).

An inaccessible website may also exclude those using older browsers, PDAs, WAP phones, WebTV or computers behind a firewall."

WTF? Ironically, the site that commisioned the report into web accessability (The Disability Rights Commission) doesn't even have a HTML version of the report...

http://www.drc-gb.org/publicationsandreports/report.asp

Paul Markham · 11-14-2004, 02:58 AM

Are they saying the members area has to be accessable or just the tour accessable to people with disabilities?

Seems to me that a picture site is in it's nature going to be inaccessable to blind people.

volante · 11-14-2004, 03:25 AM

Some quotes from the non-html (and thus a pain in the arse to access!) report:

"Organisations that offer goods and services on the Web already have a legal duty to make their sites accessible. It is clear from the investigation that these duties are not being fulfilled. The Commission?s policy is to seek improvement in the first instance through advice and conciliation, and this report contains a range of recommendations to help website owners and developers tackle the barriers to inclusive design. However, where the response is inadequate, we shall be vigorous in the use of our enforcement powers; these range from ?named-party? Formal Investigations which can lead to sanctions against the owners of inaccessible websites, to the provision of support for test cases being brought by individual disabled people."

"Disabled people must frequently overcome additional obstacles before they can enjoy the full range of information, services, entertainment and social interaction offered by the Web: blind people need sites to provide, for example, text as an alternative to images for translation into audible or legible words by specially designed screenreading devices; partially sighted people may be especially reliant upon large-format text and effective colour contrast; people who are dyslexic or have cognitive impairments may benefit in particular from the use of simpler English or alternative text formats, such as Easy Read, and from the clear and logical layout of an uncluttered website; people whose first language is British Sign Language may also find Plain English indispensable; and people with manual dexterity impairments may need to navigate with a keyboard rather than with a mouse."

So as long as you've got your ALT tags set up with adequate descriptions of the images, you're okay?

"On 28 March 2003, the Disability Rights Commission (DRC) announced its first Formal Investigation, into website accessibility for disabled people (see Appendix 1 for the DRC?s statutory remit and for the terms of reference of this investigation). The investigation was confined to publicly accessible sites, to which Part 3 of the Disability Discrimination Act 1995 (DDA) applies. "

So are memebship only sites exempt?

"In Great Britain, Part 3 of the DDA requires providers of goods, facilities and services to avoid the less favourable treatment of disabled people and also to make reasonable adjustments, including the provision of auxiliary aids and services, to any practices, policies or procedures which make it unreasonably difficult for disabled people to make use of the services they provide. Insofar as a website in itself constitutes a service, or is the primary medium for the delivery of a service, it will therefore be covered by Part 3 of the Act."

Perhaps not.

"Internationally, the Australian case of Maguire v The Sydney Organising Committee for the Olympic Games found that the Committee had been in breach of the Australian Disability Discrimination Act 1992 by failing to provide a website to which Mr Maguire could have access."

Not just UK sites then.

Full reports are here:
RTF format
PDF format

Manowar · 11-14-2004, 03:26 AM

the UK is so politically correct nowdays it hurts.

volante · 11-14-2004, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
the UK is so politically correct nowdays it hurts.

"In the USA, the 1998 amendment to Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act has proved a powerful incentive to compliance with the Guidelines since it requires that all federal agencies must ensure that their electronic and information technology is accessible to disabled people whenever those agencies develop, procure, maintain or use such technology. The public debate about the ?digital divide? has also been accompanied by litigation (not always successful) under the Americans with Disabilities Act 1990 (ADA)."

Dagwolf · 11-14-2004, 04:05 AM

PORN for the BLIND

Paul · 11-14-2004, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
the UK is so politically correct nowdays it hurts.

Makes me sick

stizzous · 11-14-2004, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dagwolf
PORN for the BLIND

LOL

stizzous · 11-14-2004, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by volante
http://www.abilitynet.org.uk/content.../Accessweb.htm

"The Law -

It has been law since 1999 to have an accessible website. Now we are seeing civil litigation and the Disability Rights Commission (DRC) has served notice that they will also be taking legal action against organisations in the near future.

Boost your website?s reach ?

An inaccessible site may exclude a significant proportion of your customers. There are 8.6 million people with disabilities in the UK with a cumulative disposable income of nearly £50 billion (Institute of Employment Studies).

An inaccessible website may also exclude those using older browsers, PDAs, WAP phones, WebTV or computers behind a firewall."

WTF? Ironically, the site that commisioned the report into web accessability (The Disability Rights Commission) doesn't even have a HTML version of the report...

http://www.drc-gb.org/publicationsandreports/report.asp

sounds like a great way to kill the business of all the hosts in the country, when every webmaster moves abroad to avoid dealing with that

webmaster x · 11-14-2004, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dagwolf
PORN for the BLIND

Good one. man.

Trax · 11-14-2004, 12:05 PM

lol
the island apes always gave me a good laugh
no offense

11-14-2004, 02:53 AM	#1
volante Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LAX Immigration Posts: 2,940	81% of websites in the UK are breaking the law! http://www.abilitynet.org.uk/content.../Accessweb.htm "The Law - It has been law since 1999 to have an accessible website. Now we are seeing civil litigation and the Disability Rights Commission (DRC) has served notice that they will also be taking legal action against organisations in the near future. Boost your website?s reach ? An inaccessible site may exclude a significant proportion of your customers. There are 8.6 million people with disabilities in the UK with a cumulative disposable income of nearly £50 billion (Institute of Employment Studies). An inaccessible website may also exclude those using older browsers, PDAs, WAP phones, WebTV or computers behind a firewall." WTF? Ironically, the site that commisioned the report into web accessability (The Disability Rights Commission) doesn't even have a HTML version of the report... http://www.drc-gb.org/publicationsandreports/report.asp

11-14-2004, 02:58 AM	#2
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Are they saying the members area has to be accessable or just the tour accessable to people with disabilities? Seems to me that a picture site is in it's nature going to be inaccessable to blind people. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

11-14-2004, 04:05 AM	#6
Dagwolf President of Canada Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leaving Hell, Entering Limbo Posts: 23,141	PORN for the BLIND __________________ Sleep well, and dream of large women.

11-14-2004, 03:25 AM	#3
volante Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LAX Immigration Posts: 2,940	Some quotes from the non-html (and thus a pain in the arse to access!) report: "Organisations that offer goods and services on the Web already have a legal duty to make their sites accessible. It is clear from the investigation that these duties are not being fulfilled. The Commission?s policy is to seek improvement in the first instance through advice and conciliation, and this report contains a range of recommendations to help website owners and developers tackle the barriers to inclusive design. However, where the response is inadequate, we shall be vigorous in the use of our enforcement powers; these range from ?named-party? Formal Investigations which can lead to sanctions against the owners of inaccessible websites, to the provision of support for test cases being brought by individual disabled people." "Disabled people must frequently overcome additional obstacles before they can enjoy the full range of information, services, entertainment and social interaction offered by the Web: blind people need sites to provide, for example, text as an alternative to images for translation into audible or legible words by specially designed screenreading devices; partially sighted people may be especially reliant upon large-format text and effective colour contrast; people who are dyslexic or have cognitive impairments may benefit in particular from the use of simpler English or alternative text formats, such as Easy Read, and from the clear and logical layout of an uncluttered website; people whose first language is British Sign Language may also find Plain English indispensable; and people with manual dexterity impairments may need to navigate with a keyboard rather than with a mouse." So as long as you've got your ALT tags set up with adequate descriptions of the images, you're okay? "On 28 March 2003, the Disability Rights Commission (DRC) announced its first Formal Investigation, into website accessibility for disabled people (see Appendix 1 for the DRC?s statutory remit and for the terms of reference of this investigation). The investigation was confined to publicly accessible sites, to which Part 3 of the Disability Discrimination Act 1995 (DDA) applies. " So are memebship only sites exempt? "In Great Britain, Part 3 of the DDA requires providers of goods, facilities and services to avoid the less favourable treatment of disabled people and also to make reasonable adjustments, including the provision of auxiliary aids and services, to any practices, policies or procedures which make it unreasonably difficult for disabled people to make use of the services they provide. Insofar as a website in itself constitutes a service, or is the primary medium for the delivery of a service, it will therefore be covered by Part 3 of the Act." Perhaps not. "Internationally, the Australian case of Maguire v The Sydney Organising Committee for the Olympic Games found that the Committee had been in breach of the Australian Disability Discrimination Act 1992 by failing to provide a website to which Mr Maguire could have access." Not just UK sites then. Full reports are here: RTF format PDF format

11-14-2004, 03:26 AM	#4
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	the UK is so politically correct nowdays it hurts.

11-14-2004, 12:05 PM	#11
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	lol the island apes always gave me a good laugh no offense