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Old 11-12-2004, 01:55 PM   #1
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****Open letter to all republicans and bush supporters on GFY****

I posted this in another thread, but I think it deserves it's own.



Dear bush supporter,

1. If you're not just a surfer, and you actually make a living in the adult industry, what do you think the bush administration thinks about your line of work? Do you think he's supportive of your business? Will the fat tax break you hope to get make much difference when you have to fend off an obscenity lawsuit? Freedom of speech is a limited right under the current administration.

2. Say someone accused you of stealing a car, but you didn't do it. Would you cooperate with the investigation? Or would you obstruct the investigation as much as possible to prevent them from looking in your garage? The bush administration sought to obstruct the 9/11 commission investigation and they are fighting to prevent an investigation into the election (among other things). What do you think this says about their involvement? If it was a fair election & no wrong doing occurred, shouldn't they willingly open the books, do recounts & prove their boy won? Do you really think they don?t want an investigation because they have nothing to hide?

3. I know the environment isn't a big deal on this board & most of you could care less what happens to our wilderness, air, water, trees, etc. However, these issues are important beyond all others if you look at the big picture. Even now, fresh, clean water costs more per gallon than gasoline. Wait until it starts to run out. Or when you have to wear a smog mask to go outside in LA (not too hard to imagine - traffic cops in Mexico City and Tokyo already do). Wait until the cost of non-renewable materials starts to skyrocket because there isn't any more. Think steel & plastic - both are finite non-renewable resources. The bush administration is the most anti-environmental administration is history. He seeks to reduce wilderness & national parks, create more roads for logging and mining, and reduce standards for clear air & water. Wouldn't you rather have water with less arsenic than more?

4. Maybe you like bush because he'll keep your taxes low. Or because he'll win the "War On Terror". Well I have news for you. How do you think $87 billion dollars are spent in Iraq? Taxes. And the ?War On Terror?? The war on terror is just like the war on drugs, or the war on crime, or the war on poverty. It's a war you can't win. There will always be terrorists because there will always be people who's only means to express their frustration to the world is to blow something up. Bush can no more win the war on terror than he can make me believe a word that comes out of his mouth.


Before you dismiss this all as "silly liberal nonsense", think about some of the questions I have posed. Are the trade offs worth it? Do you even really know what you are losing? There?s more to bush than the ?good all American guy? image. Do you really know why you vote for him?
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Old 11-12-2004, 01:59 PM   #2
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I'll repeat what I said in that thread, people who still support the Bush administration at this point can't read that much at once.
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Old 11-12-2004, 01:59 PM   #3
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Do you really know why you vote for him?
Yes.

"Make yourself sheep and the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
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Old 11-12-2004, 02:01 PM   #4
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Old 11-12-2004, 02:02 PM   #5
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this thread is useless. When people form strong opinions they can't be changed no matter what. Bush could go on tv and start shooting kids with a gun and there would still be supporters who claim these kids were future terrorists and bush was doing god's work. Best thing to do is just forget about this election and bank on it.

Promote kman's pharmacy since bush will still block drugs from that 3rd world country known as canada. Promote health insurance plans since theres still 30 million people without. It sucks that bush won but at least you can make yourself some cash and buy something to make you happy and forget all about him until his next big fuckup.
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Old 11-12-2004, 02:04 PM   #6
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Yea,

I remember all those "Democrats for Porn" signs I saw on super Tuesday.



If Muhammed is successful in his attempt to burn your children during thier recess at school, do you really care if someone is looking in your garage?
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Old 11-12-2004, 02:08 PM   #7
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I'll repeat what I said in that thread, people who still support the Bush administration at this point can't read that much at once.

I know, but I figure it's worth a shot.

If even one person rethinks their position, I will have done something.

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Old 11-12-2004, 02:17 PM   #8
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I know, but I figure it's worth a shot.

If even one person rethinks their position, I will have done something.

I love how people bag on Bush without any reason on valid alternative. I am not a big Bush fan, but I am a fan of freedom and capitalism. Kerry would have enslaved us to the UN and NATO, tying our hands and leaving our decisions for OUR country to a council that despises us. Why is Bush so bad? I am an athiest, so I do not believe in his relgious beliefs, but he is on the right track. There are two things that majorly fucked this country up in the 20th century: FDR's New Deal, and Nixon taking us off of the gold standard. At least he is trying, which is more than can be said for Kerry..
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Old 11-12-2004, 02:17 PM   #9
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Do you think he's supportive of your business?.
I heard Kerry was trying to buy bangbus.com.. is that true?

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Originally posted by fktup 2. Say someone accused you of stealing a car, but you didn't do it. Would you cooperate with the investigation? Or would you obstruct the investigation as much as possible to prevent them from looking in your garage?
They'd get nowhere near my garage without a search warrant.. and while they're waiting, hopefully they'd be watching, and I'd start loading large objects wrapped in plastic in my trailer, bringing them to a storage rental, just so they have to get a second search warrant.

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Originally posted by fktup 3.Even now, fresh, clean water costs more per gallon than gasoline. Wait until it starts to run out.
where the fuck are you getting gas for $1.50 per 1000 gallons? And can you tell me the exact date bush has banned rain?

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Originally posted by fktup 4. Maybe you like bush because he'll keep your taxes low. Or because he'll win the "War On Terror". Well I have news for you. How do you think $87 billion dollars are spent in Iraq? Taxes. And the ?War On Terror?? The war on terror is just like the war on drugs, or the war on crime, or the war on poverty. It's a war you can't win. There will always be terrorists because there will always be people who's only means to express their frustration to the world is to blow something up. Bush can no more win the war on terror than he can make me believe a word that comes out of his mouth.
WAAHHHHH, it would have been so simple to get him out.. put up a democratic candidate that wasnt totally fucking useless.. you failed.


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Originally posted by fktup Before you dismiss this all as "silly liberal nonsense", think about some of the questions I have posed. Are the trade offs worth it? Do you even really know what you are losing? There?s more to bush than the ?good all American guy? image. Do you really know why you vote for him?
Kill yourself.. start a new democratic trend.. did your welfare check go down under bush or something?
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Old 11-12-2004, 02:41 PM   #10
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1. If you're not just a surfer, and you actually make a living in the adult industry, what do you think the bush administration thinks about your line of work? Do you think he's supportive of your business? Will the fat tax break you hope to get make much difference when you have to fend off an obscenity lawsuit? Freedom of speech is a limited right under the current administration.
How many adult industry events has John Kerry attended? How many people from the adult industry would Kerry have appointed to his cabinet or other positions in the government? For all the talk about being hard on obscenity how many obscenity prosecutions have there been under the Bush administration?

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2. Say someone accused you of stealing a car, but you didn't do it. Would you cooperate with the investigation? Or would you obstruct the investigation as much as possible to prevent them from looking in your garage? The bush administration sought to obstruct the 9/11 commission investigation and they are fighting to prevent an investigation into the election (among other things). What do you think this says about their involvement? If it was a fair election & no wrong doing occurred, shouldn't they willingly open the books, do recounts & prove their boy won? Do you really think they don?t want an investigation because they have nothing to hide?
There are plenty of reasons not to let the police look in your garage even if you didn't steal the car. Maybe you're growing marijuana in your garage. Maybe you're embarrased that they'll find your replica Peewee Herman real-doll. Maybe they already looked in your garage last week.

How do you know they'll be satisfied after looking in your garage? Maybe they'll want to come in and poke around in your cabinets to see if you took the car apart and are hiding it in your kitchen. Maybe the want to root around in your underwear drawer to see if you hid the keys there.

You're innocent so you've got nothing to hide, right?

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3. I know the environment isn't a big deal on this board & most of you could care less what happens to our wilderness, air, water, trees, etc. However, these issues are important beyond all others if you look at the big picture. Even now, fresh, clean water costs more per gallon than gasoline. Wait until it starts to run out. Or when you have to wear a smog mask to go outside in LA (not too hard to imagine - traffic cops in Mexico City and Tokyo already do). Wait until the cost of non-renewable materials starts to skyrocket because there isn't any more. Think steel & plastic - both are finite non-renewable resources. The bush administration is the most anti-environmental administration is history. He seeks to reduce wilderness & national parks, create more roads for logging and mining, and reduce standards for clear air & water. Wouldn't you rather have water with less arsenic than more?
Fresh clean water does not cost more than gas. Sure you can buy some overpriced mineral-enriched spring water in a stylish bottle and pay through the nose for it, but that's not an accurate comparison.

While steel is in finite supply, about 5% of the earth's crust is made of iron. We are a LONG way away from from running out of steel. There is a steel shortage currently, but that has more to do with demand exceeding supply. You can't build new steel mills overnight.

Oil certainly is scarce, but that seems all the more reason to ensure we fully develop domestic supplies and ensure our influence over foreign suppliers.

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4. Maybe you like bush because he'll keep your taxes low. Or because he'll win the "War On Terror". Well I have news for you. How do you think $87 billion dollars are spent in Iraq? Taxes. And the ?War On Terror?? The war on terror is just like the war on drugs, or the war on crime, or the war on poverty. It's a war you can't win. There will always be terrorists because there will always be people who's only means to express their frustration to the world is to blow something up. Bush can no more win the war on terror than he can make me believe a word that comes out of his mouth.
The "war on terror" is a somewhat laughable phrase, and you're right it is unwinnable in a conventional sense. There will always be people for whom that is the only option. That war will be won in the unconventional sense by keeping the pressure up on the international terror organiations and the nations that give them sanctuary.
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Kerry would have enslaved us to the UN and NATO, tying our hands and leaving our decisions for OUR country to a council that despises us.

Untrue. But thanks for proving your low level brain activity by believing what you hear in campaign commercials.
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I love how all the sheep say Bush is bad for the Business... Its amazing that the industry is still alive after the first four years eh ?
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Kerry's values message didn't disappear entirely. It morphed into his religious message, which emerged around the same time. "Scripture teaches us it's not enough, my brother, to say that you have faith when there are no deeds. Faith without works is dead," he told the A.M.E. Church convention in July after he picked John Edwards as his running mate. Kerry's attack on Bush was that his professions of faith weren't matched by any "works" to help the poor and sick, or heal racial division. "I am running for president because it's time to turn the words into deeds and faith into action," he said.

While Kerry dropped the word "values," he returned frequently to the Book of James?s theme of faith without works. He talked about it at the NAACP convention, at the Congressional Black Caucus convention and at Baptist churches on Sundays throughout the final weeks of the election. In other words, he confined his most religious message to African-American groups. At the same time, Kerry was reluctant to express anything about his own Roman Catholic faith other than his assertion that he used to be an altar boy. His faith seemed either impersonal or absent to most of his regular audiences.


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I posted this in another thread, but I think it deserves it's own.



Dear bush supporter,

1. If you're not just a surfer, and you actually make a living in the adult industry, what do you think the bush administration thinks about your line of work? Do you think he's supportive of your business? Will the fat tax break you hope to get make much difference when you have to fend off an obscenity lawsuit? Freedom of speech is a limited right under the current administration.

2. Say someone accused you of stealing a car, but you didn't do it. Would you cooperate with the investigation? Or would you obstruct the investigation as much as possible to prevent them from looking in your garage? The bush administration sought to obstruct the 9/11 commission investigation and they are fighting to prevent an investigation into the election (among other things). What do you think this says about their involvement? If it was a fair election & no wrong doing occurred, shouldn't they willingly open the books, do recounts & prove their boy won? Do you really think they don?t want an investigation because they have nothing to hide?

3. I know the environment isn't a big deal on this board & most of you could care less what happens to our wilderness, air, water, trees, etc. However, these issues are important beyond all others if you look at the big picture. Even now, fresh, clean water costs more per gallon than gasoline. Wait until it starts to run out. Or when you have to wear a smog mask to go outside in LA (not too hard to imagine - traffic cops in Mexico City and Tokyo already do). Wait until the cost of non-renewable materials starts to skyrocket because there isn't any more. Think steel & plastic - both are finite non-renewable resources. The bush administration is the most anti-environmental administration is history. He seeks to reduce wilderness & national parks, create more roads for logging and mining, and reduce standards for clear air & water. Wouldn't you rather have water with less arsenic than more?

4. Maybe you like bush because he'll keep your taxes low. Or because he'll win the "War On Terror". Well I have news for you. How do you think $87 billion dollars are spent in Iraq? Taxes. And the ?War On Terror?? The war on terror is just like the war on drugs, or the war on crime, or the war on poverty. It's a war you can't win. There will always be terrorists because there will always be people who's only means to express their frustration to the world is to blow something up. Bush can no more win the war on terror than he can make me believe a word that comes out of his mouth.


Before you dismiss this all as "silly liberal nonsense", think about some of the questions I have posed. Are the trade offs worth it? Do you even really know what you are losing? There?s more to bush than the ?good all American guy? image. Do you really know why you vote for him?
Very good post.
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this thread is useless. When people form strong opinions they can't be changed no matter what. Bush could go on tv and start shooting kids with a gun and there would still be supporters who claim these kids were future terrorists and bush was doing god's work. Best thing to do is just forget about this election and bank on it.

Promote kman's pharmacy since bush will still block drugs from that 3rd world country known as canada. Promote health insurance plans since theres still 30 million people without. It sucks that bush won but at least you can make yourself some cash and buy something to make you happy and forget all about him until his next big fuckup.
forgot to add energy stocks and security stocks
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