Some of the best TGPs around don't have slick looking designs. In fact the biggest in our industry are for the most part just plain lists and banners. Then look at Captian Stabbin. I don't think those tours look that great, but they convert.

I have traffic. I send some programs 500,000 first page uniques a month. I send some programs 200 a month. I checked out your program and I'm not that impressed with the tours, girls, price points, or payout. It needs to stand out from the other 400 programs and at this point I don't think it does. I'm not saying your site sucks I'm just saying it looks average. But there is nothing that is making me say WOW I've got to send some traffic to that.

NaughtyINC

That was not spam... it was Guerrilla Marketing...:Graucho

one of my pet peeves with affilate programs.. 2 busy getting new webmasters rather than spending some time and going over their current affilates numbers and tweaking them for the best... thats one thing i did different when i ran a specific affilate program a while back...

o well maybe thats why i help out affilate programs now :)

i almost got a paper cut, was gonna send u a bill for the booze that i had to drink cause of the shock...

aside from the design of the site u have lots u can work on before worring bout getting new affilates or pushing harder on ur current affilates...

also a tip for ya, work 1 on 1 with affilates, look at tcg for instance, as large as it is.. when i need something done i goto bt and its done in a very personable manner... for the time invested doing this it will pay 10 fold..

also start working on ways to grow your own inhouse traffic... dont depend on just affilates to make you bank...

then again thats just my view :)

The biz needs more programs with this point of view. Send a detailed email expalining your traffic, what you've done to promote the sites etc. and you get a one line email back that says get better traffic.

Then there are others that say they'll help and then don't...

And a few that will dig in and bend over backwards to help.

Good points. As an affiliate, I don't like to see sponsors pushing their own site hard. That competes with me. They have a bigger resource in most cases and can devote the investment to get the SERPs etc.

NaughtyINC,

Thanks for the advice... and I agree with you 100% on working with the affiliates I have on a personal level... and I do, I am here for the nearly 24-7 as I would from a home office. As for getting my own traffic, if it were not for that I would be out of business...

Well have to have a beer at internext...

NaughtyNIC = Webmaster for NaughtyJenn :thumbsup

That rocks!!!!! That would be one of those jobs you'd pay to have!

there are many ways to generate your own inhouse traffic without going directly against your affilates etc... its just knowing what to do and how to do it :)

but if you see a program your spending your time and $ pushing to find that it doesnt even push its self how stable and sure do you think you will feel that the program is there to stay and that it does convert if they wont even send their traffic to it :)

newho if anyone wants to pick my brain i will be in l.a :) lol

lol i was jenns partner from day 1 with that site... i am no longer involved with jenn and going back to my roots in the adult webmaster community...

wasnt just her webmaster we lived together mate :P i do wish her all the best with the direction of the site etc where it may go..

he has NO traffic , this guy is just a newb starting out in this biz, and deceided to start out with paysites as part of his get rich quick plan :2 cents:

if you have time in the next little bit feel free to call me at 905-379-8864 see what things i can help ya out with mate

take that console of the tour , its a traffic leak :2 cents:

its hard starting into the industry off the bat with paysites, but it is doable... just your margin for error is small :)

juicy im preg with your baby btw... u better pay child support :) lol

Thanks for making the point.

That is why you hire someone with a track record to keep you on track! Wish I could say I was that person and pick up a few bucks. Sounds like NaughtyINC might be the right person though if he has the time. 10% charge for the refer.

Interesting about NaughtyINC and Jenn.

i sent over 10k so far today

:warning

just remember that no one starts off with a perfect leakfree tour etc, its all about tweaking and learning from what works and what doesnt...

its having the drive to develope a final product that you can stand behind and from there you can start to grab some new affilates :)

all the best with the program bud and i can say from just speaking to him that he does have the drive to make things right and develope a product that will sell and make both affilates and the program money.

I am just saying you have to impress the webmaster with your tour, and these days webmasters like reality style tours with free sample clips.