Amputate Your Head

Just like to address a few things this morning:

First and foremost, for all the people that keep saying this is our fault, or we deserved it, or we brought it on ourselves, or if Americans weren't so arrogant this never would have happened... a big happy FUCK OFF & DIE to you. Typical fuckin' wife beater propaganda. Wife beaters should themselves be beaten, only more severely.

A Pakistani shop owner just outside New York: "Americans are so arrogant, I'm not surprised this happened..." Well then get the fuck out of my country asshole. Go back to your third world shithole and talk your smack.

For the people crying that the US should not go killing innocent people just to get back at these terrorists, it will only make them more angry...

Sorry.
Number 1: They're going to continue to attack the US even if we don't do anything. It's their entire warped purpose for existence.

Number 2: If someone punches you in the face, do you curl up and cry like a baby? Well we don't. We stand up and beat the shit out of him. I don't think you fully understand US mentality. When we talk about dropping good ol' fashioned death from above, we are talking about killing every last man, woman, and child and every other living organism in that area. There won't be anyone left to be angry when the streets run red with blood.

"...blaming an entire group of people unfairly"...

I'll admit, I will never look at them the same again. But I don't have to. I'M FREE TO DO WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT. And there's plenty of them out here in Silicon Valley. Better believe they're watching their step and sporting really big smiles WHEN they come outside. Obviously you can't condemn every person of a group for the actions of a few, but again, bombs and cruise missiles don't pinpoint individuals. People will die. Get used to it.

"The US should not react too quickly, because those people over there have been brainwashed into thinking the US is the Great Satan"...

Fuck that. They shouldn't have brain washed them in the first place. In case anyone has forgotten, this country was BUILT on the fact that we don't take shit from ANYONE. Crack a history book. Brainwashed or not... no one attacks the US and then throws fuckin' block parties in the streets without gettin' one serious ass kicking in return. No matter how much you wail your "feel-good" speeches, there will be Hell to pay. Bank on it.

"America should get the hell out of all those countries and maybe this kind of stuff wouldn't happen"...

Are you kidding me? Those people are all a bunch of trained monkeys with assualt weapons. But know what? Great. I'm all for pulling every last American man out of those shitholes and let them have at each other. You don't want our police? No problem. You can all slaughter each other and live happily ever after in the cesspool that you create.

WW3? I don't think so. Nice try. There won't be any World War. Do you honestly think there are any countries out there stupid enough to side against the US? Yeah right. It won't be a world war... it'll be the US kicking some major fuckin' ass. Period.

"America won't fight face to face, they always send other people to do their fighting"...

Keep livin' that fantasy. Without the US the whole planet would be living under the thumb of some fanatical fuck like Hitler or Bin Laden right now. You know it.. I know it... so let's stop kidding ourselves.

"The American media is feeding you all lies, blaming people unfairly... the US should not listen to all that... retaliation won't solve anything... blah blah fucking blah...

Tell that to this guy:



My Bottom Line:

If you don't like America, then get the fuck out. You most likely don't contribute a fucking thing, and we don't want you anyway.

If you're in another country talkin' smack about the US, wise up already. This is the greatest country on the face of the Earth. Denying it only shows your ignorance. It didn't get that way by accident. It got that way by Americans (men & women both) standing up to nutcase punk ass religious fanatical fuckers all over the world.

No one is forcing you to be free. You are more than welcome to live a life of enslavement under some fucking regime in a far away land that doesn't have toilets. I don't care. But when you attack MY way of life on MY soil... you're going to pay dearly.

And I don't care if you like it or not.

Sovjetz

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CDSmith

Well, not much I can add to all that, except to say to the rest of the world that I don't care WHAT kind of language you speak, I don't care WHAT color towel you wear on your head, I don't give a steaming crap about what your religion or political views are,
BUT
if I see you smiling and laughing and cheering over what has just been done to the USA and you are within my reach, prepare for your worst fucking nightmarish beating ever. If they can put you back together at all after I get done with you, you'll never be the same again.
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Couldn't have put it better myself

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Theo

Amputate,reading more and more of your posts, I came in the conclusion that you're an idiot. For the rest of the story learn that Bin Laden had been a CIA agent. What? I guess you didn't know that, but it's natural since CNN doesn't reveal shame info for the states unlike the whole Europe knows it.

I'll do a post later on to state some things that will make some of you feel bad, but they will be true and my point is to make some of you think.

Theo

i'm glad the majority of Americans I have met don't think like you. Idiot.

Angel11

Damn Amp I like you more and more each day, That was probably thats more truth and Honesty that I think most people can handle.
ANd I must say that I agree with you and see this as just bringing the country and probably the WORLD a little closer together. Its funny, the US really is like a big family, we bicker and fight amongst ourselves but if someone else steps into it we kick there ass then get back to our argument

Shah

Don't talk shit about Muslims you white trash piece of shit

Amputate Your Head

Shah

Amputate your Head is a total fucking idiot... damn honkey tonk muthafucka that doesnt know shit. Ignore his monkey ass, he needs to be shot. And if you agree with his ass then YOU should be shot in the head !

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Fuck you!

Shah

It's real sad what happened, but FUCK YOU if your gonna come at me with that bullshit motherfucker - I would drop you on the spot

CDSmith

Soul,

wasn't YOUR country one of the ones liberated from the Nazi regime only a handful of decades ago?

You could be a bit more supportive for fuck sake, and how about being grateful for a change? And what does it matter if this ben laden asshole was a CIA agent or president of Toys R Us? I could care less. If he's responsible in even a small way for this horror he's going to fucking pay.

What is your major malfunction anyway??
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Amputate Your Head

Not likely.

ldinternet

I'd like to say that if it wasn't for the persistence of the French, Belgian and British and Australian armies and governments during the entire first and second world wars, then we would not be as we stand today. The involvement of the USA was VERY significant. BUT - the USA was extremely weak in comparison during this time, there is no way that if the British, Belgian, Australian and French SOLDIERS wouldn't have sustained their courage - and would have been toppled by the German and Italian armies before the USA ever arrived, then we would not be living as we are right now. Also, don't forget that the split between Germany and Russia was VERY significant. Basically it would have been the entire Nazi-ised planet against an extremely weak 1940s US army. It is important to remember as equals those FRENCH, AUSTRALIAN, AMERICAN, BELGIAN and BRITISH soldiers that gave their life to defend us as we are.

Because a country has a large army and a large supply of arms, it does not classify them as invincible. This has been highlighted this past few days - the acts of a 12 freelance terrorists have shook the world. Don't forget the humiliation by a peasent army of North Korea. Don't forget Vietnam... armies with pitchforks and wooden sticks. I value my freedom and therefore I don't deny the importance of ANY allied nation whether large or small. I do not attempt to make lame or cowardly personal threats on public Internet based message boards - i.e, those along the lines of "I will kill anyone, including my own, that disagrees with me" - none of which are directly aimed at anyone. I am British. I'm not overly proud of it... though I will attempt to underdig anyone's personal pride in their own country. A French guy is proud to be French. A Dutch man is proud to be Dutch. An American is proud to be American. A Russian is proud to be Russian. And no, I can't understand those that laugh or celebrate such a thing that we have witnessed this past weekend, it just does not make sense. In the current day it is just not logical to give the FUCK YOU to any of our allies. To opposing nations... fine. But this won't get us very far. If history class has tought us anything, and proven it time and time over, it is that NO country and NO person is invincible, anywhere, ever.

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Theo

CDsmith, you'll see my response later on a long post i'm gonna do. I don't support any Nazi situation. Unlike you, my family root has lost relatives in the past decades from Nazi and had fight them. The same happened with the Italian facist in the mountains of Pindou where we won Italy when their fasist Musolin tried to invade Greece. I don't give anyone the right to tell that: we, Americans won the war and mostly to people that ignore the history. Honestly I would accept it more from a Russian, because I do know that even the last Russian soldier dropped dead against Nazis and actually destroy their unique power back then. These people dealed with death by fighting straight the enemy and didn't sent an airplane to kill innumerable people and then declare we won the war.

CDSmith

Well said ldinternet --

but you left out the millions of Canadians that also fought in those wars. My own grandfather was in the battle of Vimy Ridge (ww1) and took 5 peices of shrapnel in his chest, and lived for another 30 years after that with one piece permanently next to his heart. I have uncles that were part of tank crews, infantry and navy, all with stories of these wars. Canadians also took part in the Korean confict, desert storm and Boznia too, and we are still over there.

Your point is totally correct though, and I felt like saying it earlier myself, but the fact is that wwii would likely have turned out vastly different if not for USA involvement in Europe, or if they had lost their war in the Pacific. I also hesitated because this time it's about freedom, and how to properly find and punish those that would slap freedom in the face so boldly.

Soul --
You said: "Unlike you, my family root has lost relatives in the past decades from Nazi and had fight them."

UNLIKE ME?? Are you fucking NUTS? Where do you come off assuming that my family and my FRIENDS families don't have members that fought in ever fucking big war over in your fucking hellhole? FUCK YOU ASSHOLE for that! You must be a total asshole to just assume things when you know less than zero about people. Give me your address, one of my models is over in Greece, I'll tell her to swing by your place and slap the shit out of your head.

You fucking better apologize for your ignorance or fuck off, your choice. I've got plenty of family (both living AND dead) that fought in the world wars so YOUR ass can now enjoy some freedom too. Get a ripe clue.
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Amputate Your Head

If Greece was attacked tomorrow, you'd be the first one on your knees crying for Uncle Sam to come and save your ass. And we would in spite of your hypocritical tunnel vision.

Red

Amp, you are sooo right.
For all you who are so against America, tell me what kind of car do you drive? What kind of blue jeans are you wearing. How dare you make negative remarks when you have no problem taking whatever we have to offer.
You are such fucking hypocrites.

Red

Theo

LOOK IDIOTS,

I DON'T PRAY ANYONE AND FOR ANYTHING AND I'M READY TO LOSE MY LIFE FOR MY COUNTRY. I HAVE SERVED ARMY LIKE ALL GREEKS FOR TWO YEARS, I KNOW HOW TO FIGHT AND I WON'T DO A SINGLE STEP BACK NEVER UNTIL WE WIN AGAIN OUR FREEDOM. I COME FROM A NATION WITH HISTORY OF CENTURIES THAT HAS GIVEN MANY FIGHTS FOR DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM. DEMOCRACY BORN IN GREECE. GREECE HAS BEEN ONE OF THE FEW WORLD CENTERS OF CULTURE YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

KEEP BUILDING EMPIRES, STRONG CAPITALISTIC SYSTEMS AND KEEP FEEDING WARS IN SMALL COUNTRIES AND BE SURE THAT YOUR CHILDREN WILL FACE EVENTS LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE.

SOME OF YOU LIVE IN A DEEP ILLUSION AND WILL NEVER WAKE UP.

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Amputate Your Head

This sounds familiar. The same bullshit threat that fanatical dictators throw around to recruit the weak minded fuckers that fly suicide planes.

Theo

No more posts about you Amputate, I won't spend not a single more minute with you, because I don't give any chance that you'll ever face reality.

Amputate Your Head

I'm LIVING reality Soul. I've been there. I've stood in the fields carpeted with bodies in the name of freedom. And I will continue to defend it until the day I die. I would pack my bag and fly to Afghanistan today if necessary. Freedom isn't free. It's leased with the blood of men and women who refuse to accept moronic statements such as those you are spewing.

Notice I said "LEASED". Freedom is never bought. It's an eternal daily payment plan. Because tomorrow some brand new idiot will be born into thinking he can control the people of this world, but as long as there is blood in my viens, I won't allow it.

And nothing you can ever say will change my mind.



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Dr_Ace

Why none blame CIA ?
Ben Laden was good guy when work for CIA and kill russians ?
Even if US kill ben Laden ,CIA will make a new "ben laden" and the new fanatic will hit the USA again some day.
If you like to stop terrorism hit the source.

Theo

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If you don't like America, then get the fuck out. You most likely don't contribute a fucking thing, and we don't want you anyway.

If you're in another country talkin' smack about the US, wise up already. This is the greatest country on the face of the Earth. Denying it only shows your ignorance. It didn't get that way by accident
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Amp, you are sooo right.
For all you who are so against America, tell me what kind of car do you drive? What kind of blue jeans are you wearing. How dare you make negative remarks when you have no problem taking whatever we have to offer.
You are such fucking hypocrites.
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These posts show that both you and red don't live reality.

Blackfade

You do realize with these statments you justify the recent terrorist acts right?

and usa is the best country in the world? lol.. what about norway, sweden, denmark, finland?

Amputate Your Head

Soul, I'm going to move to Greece and open a taco stand. While I'm there, I'm going to bitch and complain every day about how Greece is so fucked up and the people are arrogant and ignorant and stupid and I'm going to shove it in your face and you are going to like it. I'm going to make sure you hear it every single day multiple times. I'm going to say it until you are sick to your stomach and can't sleep at night.

Then we can talk about YOUR reality.

Theo

who are you BlackFade? your country doesnt make any bluejeans, fuck you! America is the best country in the world, face it, Americans says that, so it's the truth, the rest don't worth a shit. Fuck all of you.

Amputate Your Head

Soul, if Greece is ever attacked by some nutcase from wherever, please call BlackFade and have Norway and Sweden come and save you okay? We're too busy with our false impression of freedom over here to worry about Greece.

Theo

true, now go spend some time to think how to catch your ex CIA agent.

Darren

for once lets not have a bitching session, over a subject like this.

Nobody is better than anybody else we are all equals.

quit it.

Amputate Your Head

And that's why they're pissed.

theWatsonian

I think the replies to this thread prove we have enemies that would add insult to injury, even on this board.

Nysus

So may you tell me why the USA has been funding the Israelis?

Sjayne

I can not belive someone just said that. That is evil plain and simple.

Nysus

I'm not going to get into an argument with a bunch of bullheaded stubborn chatters on what country is the best. If you think American is the best because you have a lot of people? 50+ states is it? Lots of money to bully other countries? That's far from the "best" country. Best implies good. I'm not saying the USA hasn't done many good things, just taking the ignorant view of you saying you are the best, fits well with the majority of posters generalizing a mass of people with an individual organization.

Amputate Your Head

Nysus, Soul Rebel was being sarcastic in that remark. It was actually a US put down.

As for me, I did not say the US is the "best". I said it is the greatest.

Dr_Ace

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Nysus

I could have listed the dictionary terms for Best and Greatest, but I won't. They are very similar. One in the same.

Amputate Your Head

No they are not. You are picking something out of context and applying it to fit what you want. If you need clarification, read my first post in this thread.

Theo

i wrote a long message, but i finally decided not to post it for one and only reason. Some of you,even few might misunderstood my words and I don't want it. I prefer not to keep posting any more about this, it doesnt lead to anything only to false judjments about nations,religions and beliefs.
Amputate, Red and Watsonian and the rest people that might found my messages wrong, I want you to know that honestly Greeks feel your pain and I know that the same happens in rest countries. As far Greeks I can easily state that we are a peachful country and we hate war, because we have experienced war situations more than many other countries.

Let's stop here the posts and see if we can help from our position the fellow people. Our posts don't lead to anything. I'm really sorry for our posts here, I don't feel proud while I know the tragedy is still going on.

CDSmith

Wrong again idiot.
Nobody said that other countries aren't worth a shit, only you, these are your words, not ours. The POINT is that on looking back on many recent and historic events, the outcome of those events were greatly improved by US input and US/UN intervention. No one said that other countries are shit or not worth a shit.

In this case, in light of this deliberate attack on the US, I say to guys like you (that seem to want to cloud the issue with your bullshit) is to shut the fuck up already. Are you saying that it's wrong for the US to hunt down those responsible and make them pay? Are you saying the west deserved this? You saying this is our own fault??
What exactly the fuck ARE you saying?

And soul, I see no apology yet for your stupid assinine remarks to me earlier, and believe me when I say I won't forget what you said. How you can think it's right to just assume that someone's family has not put their lives on the line for the freedom we all enjoy today is beyond me. I don't know about YOUR fucking country, but over here in the civilized world saying that to anyone is a major insult. You never know who's grandfather died for our freedom, you have no idea how many uncles a person might have that fought and/or died at Normandy, and you certainly don't know how many brothers & sisters people may have that were sent overseas to defend those same freedoms for OTHER countries (like yours). Saying things like "unlike you" in this regard is worth a shit-kicking in my opinion budrow, so you're another one that best walk the other way if you ever see me coming, because if I see you first I WILL address this with you. That's a promise.
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Amputate Your Head

Straight up brother.

Theo

CDsmith, I have to admit that the unlike statement wasn't right and honestly I didn't state it on purpose in order to insult anyone. It was a more general you and not focused on someone and I'm really sorry about it.
As I said before posting about this subject doesn't lead to anything, at least the current time. I hope the responsibles of this multinational tragedy will face the law very soon. Perhaps some day under better conditions will be able to chat again on this matter and I think some of us we'll see many common points and get some interesting conclusions.

Blackfade

I'm saying its wrong of the US to kill innocent people in order to get the ones responsible.

The person who started this thread seemed to think that their is nothing wrong with killing innocent arabs/muslims/whatever in the pursuit of the people responsible for this.

killing innocent people to get back at people for killing innocent people, is not very wise.

Amputate Your Head

Don't put your words in my mouth. I never once said there was nothing wrong with it.
I said "People will die. Get used to it."

Big difference.

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Babagirls

sorry, but i didnt have enough time to read all of your post A.Y.H

but that is the first time that i actually saw someone free-falling from the building. I heard of people jumping but never saw anything ....what a horrible site