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Old 11-09-2004, 01:44 PM   #1
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Fuck Visa and fuck CCbill

I?m looking for something new to sell must not use CCbill and prefer a EU based processor.
1) Must not be over exposed seen everywhere type programme
2) Must use exclusive content prefer teen/babe niche
3) Must be willing to work with me
What can I offer you? I push 500k a day in traffic and can send 10,000 plus hit a day to your programme.

Contact me 77762980 or [email protected]
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Old 11-09-2004, 01:44 PM   #2
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Old 11-09-2004, 01:45 PM   #3
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Old 11-09-2004, 01:48 PM   #4
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Old 11-09-2004, 01:49 PM   #5
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Old 11-09-2004, 01:51 PM   #6
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If any of the big players is reading this thread by any chance, I'd like to remind you that I am looking for serious investors in an offline mainstream deal in South America, backed by my close friend, the ex-President of Bolivia, Mr Gonzalo Sanches de Lozada.


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Old 11-09-2004, 02:03 PM   #7
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Did I miss some drama.... What's your beef with CCbill?




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Old 11-09-2004, 02:07 PM   #8
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Did I miss some drama.... What's your beef with CCbill?




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Usual cookie loss / technical problems resulting in bad conversions, disappearing sign ups etc.

Got the best conversions I ever had with a CCBill primary sponsor at the moment tho
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Old 11-09-2004, 02:10 PM   #9
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Usual cookie loss / technical problems related to bad conversions, disappearing sign ups etc.

Got the best conversions I ever had with a CCBill primary sponsor at the moment tho

Ahhhhh......ok, I thought there was some new Drama LOL

No problems with any of my sites at the moment or any that I'm promoting that use CCBill. Conversions have been off the hook for the last 2 weeks for some reason!

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Old 11-09-2004, 02:15 PM   #10
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Btw Bake as far as I know CCBill always was mainly EU based.
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Old 11-09-2004, 02:20 PM   #11
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Just frustrated with the hard scrubbing the last few days
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Old 11-09-2004, 02:28 PM   #12
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Btw Bake as far as I know CCBill always was mainly EU based.
Well Im not sure about that havent heard that before but I do know EU processors dont have to keep to .75% charge back more like 2.5%
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Old 11-09-2004, 02:30 PM   #13
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Just frustrated with the hard scrubbing the last few days
We get declined emails sent to us when someone tries to sign up and is declined. We also get form page hits reports. Nothing really seems out of line. I was not aware that affiliiates got decline emails and could see join page hits. How are you certain you are being scrubed?

CCbill does make them fill out the form correctly and they do make sure to cover their clients ass by giving them good joins. Truthfully, I would rather have 1 good ccbill join the 4 or 5 from a company that has found away around the Visa loop.

Good joins means I can continue to enjoy my .03 chargeback ratio. It also keeps us in secure hands with Visa which keeps money in all of our pockets. Money we can count on for years to come. I would have hated to have been with one of those other processors and had to move when Visa pulled the plug.

If you can deliver that kind of traffic on a daily I will bend over backwards to work with you and see that you convert, even with processing with ccbill.

Read my ratio in my sig. Those are real numbers.

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Old 11-09-2004, 02:31 PM   #14
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Just frustrated with the hard scrubbing the last few days
ya, my sales have been shit the last few days too


FUCK CCBILL AND VISA! I'm going to just have customers give me their address and I'll come by and collect payment for porn!!
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Old 11-09-2004, 03:15 PM   #15
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Old 11-09-2004, 03:49 PM   #16
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Try interracialtoons.com (using Verotel EU)

I guarantee it's not over exposed LOL!

But in reality it is converting 1:85 for me using banners so it's not as big a joke as I made it out to be.
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Old 11-09-2004, 04:43 PM   #17
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We get declined emails sent to us when someone tries to sign up and is declined. We also get form page hits reports. Nothing really seems out of line. I was not aware that affiliiates got decline emails and could see join page hits. How are you certain you are being scrubed?

CCbill does make them fill out the form correctly and they do make sure to cover their clients ass by giving them good joins. Truthfully, I would rather have 1 good ccbill join the 4 or 5 from a company that has found away around the Visa loop.

Good joins means I can continue to enjoy my .03 chargeback ratio. It also keeps us in secure hands with Visa which keeps money in all of our pockets. Money we can count on for years to come. I would have hated to have been with one of those other processors and had to move when Visa pulled the plug.

If you can deliver that kind of traffic on a daily I will bend over backwards to work with you and see that you convert, even with processing with ccbill.

Read my ratio in my sig. Those are real numbers.


I have the type of traffic that should convert your site my 2 fav sponsors currently are Met-Art and FTV girls and I have all types of traffic Ive been using CCbill since 98 and this year is by far the worse It just shits me everything is normal for 3 weeks and from nowhere your 20,000 to 1 from a steady 400 to 1 and why do rebills seems to disapear when the sales go to shit as well.
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Ahhh the questions of the ages.

Wait for someone to pop up and say that ccbill is stealing their money.

Or did that already happen and I missed it?
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I have the type of traffic that should convert your site my 2 fav sponsors currently are Met-Art and FTV girls and I have all types of traffic Ive been using CCbill since 98 and this year is by far the worse It just shits me everything is normal for 3 weeks and from nowhere your 20,000 to 1 from a steady 400 to 1 and why do rebills seems to disapear when the sales go to shit as well.
Cant tell ya... maybe your traffic just needs something fresh?


Wth all the time you have invested, its sure worth a shot. If I can be of any help or you want to just run a test. I will bump you up 20% and we can see how it goes.

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Old 11-09-2004, 05:15 PM   #20
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3) Must be willing to work with me
This one i can help you with.. will 1 out of 3 be okay *lol*

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I have the type of traffic that should convert your site my 2 fav sponsors currently are Met-Art and FTV girls and I have all types of traffic Ive been using CCbill since 98 and this year is by far the worse It just shits me everything is normal for 3 weeks and from nowhere your 20,000 to 1 from a steady 400 to 1 and why do rebills seems to disapear when the sales go to shit as well.
They do seem to have that pattern, at least from the affiliate site, though the other prosessors seem to follow a simular patern of having "normal" conversion days and then 3-4-5 days where sales just go down the drain..
I used to actually switch a lot between sponsors using different prosessors, like when ccbill seemed to have a bad day i promoted the epoch sponsors, or ccbill sponsors not affected (never seemed to be all ccbill sponsors at a time, but rather one just going dead)

Got so tirred of it and started to suspect all sponsors of shaving that in the end i started my own program, and even though it's on ccbill i don't seem to get those dead periods so i doubt it's really a ccbill problem.

This advice you propably allready know and follow, but best thing Imo. is to spread your advertising on more sponsors and change them around once in a while, if one does porely for a period, replace that sponsor for a week or 2 then try again, if it keeps doing poorely drop it and try a new one.. that should minimize your loss on those bad converting days
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Old 11-09-2004, 05:30 PM   #21
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You can use the hot dates we have now,paying out 100% for each singup you make and be sure CCBILL those days is one of the REALLY few billing solutions left on the market.

Both Visa and CCbill are very welcome here
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check my sig - we have great photo and movie teen sites and use epoch + ibill on buckup

site are doing very well
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Old 11-09-2004, 06:44 PM   #25
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Im consufed....

Who is you EU processor?

All I see is Epcoh on there
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