Many states reckognize common law marriage.

http://family-law.freeadvice.com/commonlawmarriage.htm

weak

Ahem, CA DOES reckognize common law marriages.

http://family-law.freeadvice.com/commonlawmarriage.htm

So organize and start a movement.

My point is, I seriously doubt the gays are lobbying against man/woman civil unions. And their lobbying for their rights doesn't leave them time to protest yours as a straight person.

You just don't see gay marches carrying signs saying "down with straights!"

If someone doesn't vote, then their preference means squat. Either vote or STFU about politics (not directed at anyone specific).

Yeah, if you got common law status in another state. I am not going to move to the sticks so I can get common law status then move back to paradise

why weak? Because I am a white, straight guy I have to get stepped on again? and yeah, civil unions for same sex partners is an additional burden on the system, don't even think that there is no cost involved that is borne by everyone

that is, if you indeed want those benefits in the first place. after all, those benefits only come when you're willing to commit.

is that your situtation mr dog?

:thumbsup

well, I am not against opposite gender unions either. Though, I guess the basic difference is that you could get married if you wanted to.

well then you don't want it badly enough. Look at the stuff gay couples are willing to go through to be together? I wish everyone of whatever sexual preference had to go through so much to get married. There would be a lot less divorce.

Which btw is an interesting aspect of the same sex unions that are newly available in the UK - there is a divorce process. Anyone that has has a union can't just break up without going through a divorce type process like a straight couple. Marriage has responsibilities and any equvilent for same sex couples.

Why should benefits be only for committed heterosexual couples?

Common law marriage is also not recognized in the sticks of GA.

oh and when I say I wish straight people had to go through a lot to get married that is coming from someone that had to get gov't approval for my marriage since I was marrying a British person and planning on living here. I had to prove that I was in love...such fun.

Did you even read the post? When someone says they want to ban somehting for a more decent socioty thent hey are saying that what they want to ban is indecent. Pretty simple dude. Please tell me you arent that blinded by your support for Dubya.

That was because you done it all back to front. Getting married and then getting approval is MUCH easier ;)

yeah but we were told that was sort of against the rules if we were getting married in the UK. It was worth it and actually the finally perm residency approval was the biggest pain. I am going for dual citizenship as soon as I get off my ass and send the check in so we will see how easy that will be.

I was going to reply, but this has just gotten silly. Purposely taking people's words out of context is not debating.

Only sort of. The way they word it is confusing. You are not allowed to fly over with the intent to marry and live here without the correct forms and permission. However, you are fully allowed to fly over for a visit of up to 6 months, then decide to marry once here, get married and then send off the form and get the leave to stay stamp :Graucho

The main thing is you got there in the end though. I/we will be VERY interested in how the dual thing goes. Let me know!

Because this way he apeases to somewhat both groups. chuch can keep the "sarced" name of marridge and gay people can get the rights that is the underlying goals.

100 gay 'brides'

I prefer receiving 1000 guy`s juicy sperm on my face as a bukcake from my pet chiwawa for my birthday.

Actually, I can guarantee you, they do oppose civil unions for gays. By saying they don't, moderate conservatives will feel less uneasy about backing a ban of gay marriage altogether.

I think the example I gave earlier was: Do you think the KKK would be believed if they said they opposed interracial marriage, but supported interracial civil unions? No.

I'm not saying neo conservatives are the KKK. But the level of fanaticism re: their agenda is the same (and makes about as much sense).

Mark my words, if they succeed in banning gay marriages, civil unions will be the next to be banned (or at least attempted).

And while we are at it lets ban stupid people having children, they will raise more stupid people with more stupid theories.

The problem with banning Gay marriages is it gives into a narrow minded mean spirited element, who will not be happy with just that. Look at what could be next on their list.

Abortion
Porn
Muslims
Inter faith marriages.
People with mental illness getting married
People with disabilities getting married.

Where will they stop?

Where the people decide to stop them. Watch the religious TV channels if you want a clue. Because this is where the bigots preach.

So true man

Thanks.

Don't anyone fool themselves that this stops at Gay Marriages, this is just the first month of a four year trail.

America was founded on the basis of basic freedoms, now it seems there is a strong element that wants to limit those freedoms.

Identified even if I'm not American it's weak to just say STFU, you have to give a reasoned argument why I'm wrong.

Or do you totally believe and support the principle of one country or it's inhabitants not interfering in another countries affairs?

Identified

You are one pathetic fuckin loser -

Gay parents will raise GAY children what the fuck kinda archie bunker bullshit is that you fucking whacko sick bastard.
I have raised 3 wonderful kids in a Gay managed household - the oldest boy 18 now is a firm hetrosexual and a bodybuilder - he is diehard in his right wing beliefs and this will even floor you further he leaves for his mormon mission overseas in the spring.
The kid has a 4.0 GPA and he is the PERFECT all american boy!
Not a thought in his head about sucking cock ! I assure you !
Now I might not agree with his choice to be a mormon - but I will tell you this- he is free to make his own choices in life I have always encouraged this. No matter what he wanted to do!

The other two kids have and IQ greater than that of you and they havent graduated yet both of them Hetrosexual - !!!

How you can say Gay is Wrong - when I have a very solid monogomous relationship and I can tell you I must know 2 dozen men and women alike in married relationships that go out frequently and commit adultrey ONE OF THE TEN FUCKING COMMANDMENTS BROKEN ~ But straight people are so fucking holy and pure RIGHT !
Now while some of your bibles may have comments about gay - others do not - the one thing I do know is - adultrey ranks right up there as one of the worst fucking things you can do - I dont see GAY up there in the 10 commandments !!!! Check yourself MR. IDENTIFIED !! Listen for the knock -- your GOD is coming to pay you a visit and you have some splaining to do !


Read this identified How many of these have you broken !
You and your beloved fucking G.W.Bush!!
And Pay special attention even back when the commandments were written - They had guess what - MANSERVANTS!!! its right there in white and black for you !!!
And your beloved Moral obligations to society "Gay is Wrong" But you can enslave the black race and that is ACCEPTABLE in the eyes of the LORD I dont fucking think so you prejudicial assfucker!
The bible thumpers are as guilty of SIN as the next person and most of them even more so than the ones who just live their lives without religion!


III. THE TEN COMMANDMENTS

I. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.

II. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven aimage, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thous shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them, for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; and showing mercy unto thousands of them love me; and keep my commandments.

III. Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hild him guiltless that taketh his Name in vain.

IV. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days thou shalt labor, and do all thy work; but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God; in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor the stranger that is within thy gates. For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day; wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

V. Honor thy father and thy mother; that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

VI. Thou shalt not kill.

VII. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

VIII. thou shalt not steal.

IX. Thous shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

X. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thous shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant nor his maidservant, nor is ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbor's.

IDENTIFIED ***** special attention to this one asswipe

IX. Thous shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

I fear that by you even making that post here you have committed an act of sin against the lord Oh my Lions and Tigers and Bears!

Now everyone a moment of prayer for Mr. Identified!

identified=kak_azn=kyle hoppes

DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS DUDE, HE IS A N00B ANNOYANCE, RIGHT UP THERE WITH LAWRENCE CONNOR AND SEXEDUCATION

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