Tev

Ok, I gotta go back a lotta years to remember this, I got out of the army in '85 did my reserves, and finished the IRR about 8 mos before the first gulf war, I extended while in the active reserves and the only reason I could think why I would have done that was sheer stupidity, but if memory serves I remember something saying that if it was needed the army could call you back for life if there was need.

EviLSuperstaR

What plan?? This is the Bush Administration we are talking about!

Four more years!!!! Muaahahahahahahahahaha!

jollyperv

Thank god for flat feet.

ronbotx

I hear that Usama is near your location. Activate the Spanish Terror Alert System!!!!!

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Torn Rose

Nothing like saying ?Thank You? to your vets.

If this happens to anyone here I suggest going to the recruiter?s office wearing spandex and high heels with a joint hanging from your mouth....

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EviLSuperstaR

You must have missed the news during the past weeks? At least spain is cleaning up the al-qaeda cells. But, yes, I forgot you watch Faux news!

Seems like Bush and Osama collaberate so well that the monkey in the white house owes his election win to the video letter of his dear Saudi friend

cosis

fuck blaming ohio, how many other stats voted bush? ohio just happened to be the last battleground state to get the votes counted

ronbotx

Wrong again shithead. This guy has USAMA to thank, with the help of weak and cowardly Spanish voters like yourself.

GatorB

But Bush isn't going to call for a draft? Noticed how he did this AFTER the election. Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't try to call up my grandfather who served in WWII and has been dead for 10 years.

Peaches

IRR has been around for decades and has been used more in the past than it is now.

Not to mention it's all in the contract you signed. My son actually read his contract and asked his recruiter about this

GatorB

Funny no one has ever heard of it being used before. PROVE that it has. point is if Buhs had done this BEFORE the elction whether he had the right to or nt, he WOULDN'T not have won. And that's pussy. PERIOD. Just proves Bush has ZERO balls.

theking

There is not any need at all for a draft at this point in time. Congress controls the force end level for the military. They can raise the force end level at any point they choose to. By raising the force end levels the size of the miltary will significantly increase via the all volunteer program. In other words...at this point in time potential enlistees are being turned away and/or being put on the Delayed Entry Program. Congress will refrain from raising the force end levels for as long as possible because of the additional budgetary expense. The only way a draft would ever be reinstituted is if there is a major conflict...and at this point that does not appear to be on the horizon.

All current military personell are aware that they have an eight year obligation. They also know that their enlistments can be extended, and their retirements delayed at the descretion of the military. This is SOP and has been at least since the end of the 2nd World War.

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pornguy

That really sucks. My Brother has been out for 14 years, and is in no shape to go back. On top of that his wife is 3 months pregnant.


Shit. He will be pissed.

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Peaches

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...y/usar-irr.htm

"This is not the first time the Army has used the IRR to fill its manpower needs. During the Gulf War, more than 20,000 IRR Soldiers were mobilized and deployed. Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the Army has called up more than 2,500 IRR Soldiers -- the majority through IRR volunteers, though some have been involuntary call-ups."

So, 10 times as many were called up during the Gulf war.

theking

He cannot be called up.

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baddog

He moved. Doesn't get much better than that.

theking

It always amazes me the lack of knowledge Americans have about their own military...but I guess it shouldn't since less than 1% ever serve.

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Peaches

And GatorB, if you had actually READ the article, you would have seen the guy in question was told of his being called up back in September. Yes, it was before the election

baddog

I would guess it depends on how many of them enlisted in the military.

No one has been drafted to go there . . . at least not from the USA

theking

Unless the policy has been changed commissioned Officers (not Non Commissioned Officers) can be called back to active duty until age 62.

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GatorB

Just wait I'll be proven right. I'm not taking about ONE guy MORON. Look at the BIG picture.

theking

The guy in question cannot be called back (unless he was an Officer and it does not sound like he was)...it is a clerical SNAFU.

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baddog

details, details

Sergio1234

I served from 1990 to 1998, yes I did my max 8 yr contract. One year later I get a call from a army recruiter asking if i like to reenlist? Told him, already did my 8 yrs, plus I can't rejoin the same branch (Army) once discharged. He informs me...Oh we call you up to 3 years from the date of discharge to reelist with the same branch of service. Don't get me wrong I was proud to serve my country, however I won't while Bushwack in office.

Nanda

Exactly!


Again, right!

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EviLSuperstaR

Perhaps some reading and investigation of events would make you look less ignorant and stupid...but I doubt it

BradM

This clearly proves how stupid some people on this board are. Clear ignorance.

trouserrat

King, why are you confusing them with facts and logic? Bush is to blame for everything since the Earth cooled, didn't you know?

One minute he's a war mongering cowboy, the next he has zero balls. Gotta love the hypocrisy. And why do you think because YOU have never heard of this sort of thing, no one else has? Oh yea, because you know eveyrthing.

ronbotx

King:

Well it has been a while, but as I recall, in order to get your honorable discharge in the USAR, you have to resign your commission as part of the separation process. I made it to O-3.

If your resignation does not get processed and accepted, they could get you. After you have your honorable discharge however, I have NEVER heard of anyone recalled, Officers included.

Why does it seem that all the GFY experts on this topic have never spent a day in the US military????

Alex From San Diego

Why are you talking out your ass again.....lol

IRR has nothing to do with the draft.

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theking

I spent 12 years in the military (my career was ended in the 1st Gulf War) and was an E-7 Non Commissioned Officer not a Commissioned Officer...thus your knowledge about the recalling of Officers should be more extensive than mine. It has been my understanding that Officers who do not resign their Commission (it has been my understanding that it is optional after fulling ones military obligation to retain or resign their Commissions) are subject to recall until age 62. I knew a Major in the 1st Gulf War that was recalled after retirement (though I do not think that it was a forced recall but instead he was requested to return to active duty). I also knew retired E-Ratings that were recalled after retirement during the 1st Gulf War...but once again it was not a forced recall.

As far as E-Ratings being recalled after receiving an Honorable Discharge...there have been recalls (from time to time) of those that have not fulfilled their eight year obligation. An E-Rating receives an Honorable Discharge upon separation from active duty...and upon each re-enlistment. I have several Honorable Discharges. Another example...my brother served three years active duty with the Army and was given an Honorable Discharge then enlisted in the Marines and received an Honorable Discharge from the Corp when he re-enlisted in the Marines...and ultimately recieved a General Discharge under honorable conditions for a medical problem...when he could not fulfill his second enlistment in the Corp.

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Drake

This is 100% correct

Big Fish 47

My four years of inactive reserve are already up!

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