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Palm Beach County Logs 88,000 More Votes Than Voters
November 5, 2004 04:56 PM

According to the official election results posted on the Palm Beach County election website, 542,835 ballots were cast for a presidential candidate while only 454,427 voters turned out for the election (including absentee). This leaves a discrepancy of 88,408 votes cast for the presidential candidates.

Palm Beach County's supervisor of elections is Theresa LePore who is known for the 2000 Presidential Election and the notorious "butterfly ballot" that caused confusion among seniors and other Floridians.

Other election oddities occurred throughout Florida with some counties registering a 400% increase in expected voter turnout among Republicans while Democrats supposedly experienced a -60% decline in expected support within certain counties. The 50+ counties experiencing the high percentage fluctuations in expected turnout used optical scan voting machines on November 2nd.

Vote discrepancies were also found in Gahanna, Ohio which gave an extra 4,000 votes to President Bush. The error was explained away by Franklin County administrators as a "glitch" in the electronic voting system.

Update: Palm Beach County has updated their numbers and added 91,802 absentee ballots and 1,041 provisional ballots. The vote totals for president increased by 1,543. To view an archived copy of the previous report, click here. While Palm Beach County appears to have accounted for the discrepancy, this underscores the flaws in the system and data compilation.

http://www.washingtondispatch.com/sp...es/000715.html

messiah1

This shit is starting to look crazy.

strats

'o woops' or 'right where we want em'?

jukeboxfrank

Update: Palm Beach County has updated their numbers and added 91,802 absentee ballots and 1,041 provisional ballots. The vote totals for president increased by 1,543. To view an archived copy of the previous report, click here. While Palm Beach County appears to have accounted for the discrepancy, this underscores the flaws in the system and data compilation.

For more information, see Shane Cory's latest commentary, Should

KRL

Do people honestly believe its possible to count the 120 million votes in 50 states in thousands of counties using all sorts of manual and electronic systems in one night like they do?

Right there you know something isn't kosher.

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strats

only way to do it is randomly select people for the counting/monitoring jobs.

There is a way which it could be completely randomized (and honestly) as to who monitors/counts vote counting.

it could be fun as well..

Pack everyone in your little stadium thingie, or a theatre, fly one of those blimps around and drop pieces of paper with job assignment on them. very simple. the whole town is invited. counters, poll boxers, monitors. all done on paper. simple. but then the people might actually be doing the choosing. its sad kinda. but whateva yo za

Theo

That's how it works in most EU countries and if you dont attend you face a serious penalty.

swedguy

Can someone explain why you need to register as Rep, Dem or No Party when you register to vote?

Paul Markham

You are joking aren't you?

This would make any election easy to defraud.

It's bad enough to know whare someone lives, but to know how they vote is ludicrous. Can't not be true.

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baddog

Let me guess . . . Bush won by 88,408 votes there?

baddog

Look dumbass, you do not understand the political process here, so why don't you read before coming up with stupid comments.

baddog

Simple. Before the final elections they hold primaries so each party can decide who their candidate will be.

The Democrats chose from a list of possible Democrat candidates, and the Republicans vote on who they want to represent them in the big election.

If Republicans could vote in the Democrats primaries, the Democrats would be pimping Al Sharpton, and the Republicans would be pimping Dan Quayle.

baddog

Ummm, they don't. Small states that have a few hundred thousand residents do, but states like NY and CA, FL etc did not have all votes counted that night. Shit, even Iowa did not have a final vote that night.

baddog

your presumptions are ludicrous. no one knows who you vote for just because they know what party you are registered with

CET

Some states, including mine, have open primaries, but most have closed primaries.

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CET

Kerry conceded. The results aren't going to change with anything short of at least a small scale revolution.

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VeriSexy

88,000 OMG

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playa

It's a political courtesy not a law... Rumor is that they made that statement but still working in the background

pussyluver

On election night or the next day, we get unoffical results. Just plain can't count that many votes with out errors. No big surprise. So the unoffical results is cause we wanna know NOW. Usually the spread is wide enough that errors won't affect the outcome.

This is a good time to point out to our friends that don't live here that there are poll watchers from BOTH parties making sure all is "kosher".

Cheating? Of course!! on both sides, the hope is it is evenly distributed along with the errors.

Chad? If you didn't check your ballot this time around, you ARE an idiot. My polling place had big signs up advising to check the ballot. To be honest, I think the punch cards are fine. Esp if you check it before you place the vote in the box. Data can be lost to easy with computerized voting. Just don't have the same confort level as with the paper ballot.

SleazyDream

it's possible if the powers that be actually want it to happen

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playa

especially when there using m$.. I couldn't believe states were using Microsoft Access for their database

baddog

They don't even pretend that all the votes are counted. The make projections based on the votes that were counted. They new Kerry had CA when only 19% of the votes were counted. They don't need exact numbers to be able to figure it out, except in very rare situations.

Small counties and states are able for count 300,000 ballots in 5 hours rather easily

WickedVenus

your absolutly right!!!

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pussyluver

Yes, it is possible for the results to change. Ohio would be the place. Casue a Kerry win there would give him the EVs to win the election. None of this is offical yet.

Find a few thousand ballots in the trunk of a car (this has happened) and it is possible for things to change and Kerry could become the offical winner. Doubt this will happen as a 100K+ votes is a big number, but....

pussyluver

Hey baddog Another night of political humor!!!

pussyluver

Required reading:

http://www.archives.gov/federal_regi...llege/faq.html

Also note:
Guam has cast its Zero electoral votes. Unfortunately, the territory of Guam cannot cast votes in the electoral college for President, because like Puerto Rico it is not a state. The citizens of Guam are also United States citizens and can vote if they move to the States or D.C.

That's fair, NOT.

baddog

I think Washington DC got EV's sometime after I graduated highschool.

I seemed to recall that there used to be only 535 EV's. Never had to worry about a tie in those days.

bizmak

the whole thing is getting exposed.. what now?