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quote by baddog:
You will have a black man before you have a woman. Look for Obama 2012.

For sure!! That doesn't mean a woman won't come along with a chance.

Think Hillary has a real chance, just won't get my vote. Don't underestimate her.

perhaps, but the Republicans are as likely to nominate the first female president, as a KKK chapter in TN is likely to initiate their first gay, Catholic, living with a Jew, black man as a new member

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

right gov'ts in other countries have had female leaders......

Condi Rice?

are you on crack? is it good? you sound like you are very high tonight.

Long shot - but example of Republicans placing black woman in a position of power.

No need to answer my earlier question

woke up from a nap and started posting....

sleep next to crack :1orglaugh

Other countries do not equate to Texas. Oklahoma. Louisiana. Alabama. Mississippi. Georgia...etc...etc...etc.

These states are filled with people who still feel it's a woman's place to honor and obey her husband..and that means stay at home and take care of the kids.

If she has a job...she still comes home to take care of the kids while the husband does whatever he wants.

I'm telling you from experience. I grew up in Texas...it can be a different world.

I knew he was on drugs . . . . I bet they are really good drugs too

Originally posted by pussyluver
So even though I wouldn't vote for her, she would have a running chance at it. Even in the South IMO.

The Clintons have the politcal know how and "capatal". Depends on who the Republicans place aginst her.

me neither

are you telling me the english arn't UPTIGHT?

Point is well taken. Times are changing. Plus more and more immigrants will have an affect.

Woman's place is in front of a camera making money....

No. I'm telling you tho' that most european countries from my learning experience leave religion out of politics.

The south doesn't...as is apparent in this last election.

I'll give you an example of how the church got involved in the Reagan re-election campaign when I was an 18 year old kid...getting ready for my first ever vote.

They outright told us it was our duty to vote for Reagan.

They had every Sunday petitions to sign, all kinds of baseless rumors on what would happen if Reagan did not win.

This is no bullshit....one thing they told us was that they would start airing executions and suicides on t.v. in a pay per view type event.

They also tied it in directly with the book of Revelations, and the coming of the anti-christ...I shit you not.

This is the exact same kind of bullshit they pulled in the south with the whole gay marriage, and stem cell issues...they went after them with "morality" issues....more like fear...and it worked.

Dude, I am sorry, but I have read every post in this thread, and you don't have a clue. I guess you are under 30, maybe 25, but you are young and idealistic, as the youth should be, that is the time for it.

However . . . . only 10% of the youth voted Tuesday, when 54% of them voted for Kerry. Talk about idiots. Fucking kids.

They won't vote in '08 either.

Think about it. Who had the right to vote first? White women or black men?

When you figure that out, you will understand that you will have a black male president before you have a female president. THe Democrats are the only ones that are going to nominate a black man or a white woman. The only person in the wings that I see is Obama, but he won't be ready until 2012.

Then the Dems will screw up and put Hillary as he running mate, and they will lose. He will try again in 2016, but with a male runnimg mate, and maybe win.

Bookmark this thread

Geraldine Ferraro.

okay . . . presidents always get 2 terms. Bush, Sr was the exception to the rule.

Nomintate Clinton in '08, and guarantee no Democratic chance at the White House until 2016.

Yeah, they drive their cars on the wrong side of the street, and let cows wander around while people starve too. What was your point?

Are you kidding?

http://www.rice2008.com/ . . . That guy supports the idea . . . he sounds like he does better drugs than you

:)

exactly . . .I was going to say that earlier . . . and no, go to the inner city, or the south and ask a black man if things have changed that much since then.

Thanks!! Wish that I were that young again. I'm 55. I have been active in politics, have been to political events in both major parties (not just rallies), have done political web sites (my candidates won) and have consulted on city wide races.

Hillary was a year ahead of me at the same high school. Doesn?t mean anything, just name dropping.

All that doesn't mean I don't have a clue I guess. I am idealistic and hope I remain that way.

No ill intended, but times are changing. Perhaps faster than you think? I have been to recent township meetings that would support your point of view for sure, but that was in a rural area. You could still see the struggle though between ideologies.

Yes. but it is a black woman in a position of high power. A sign of change. Bush was ready to take a black man as VP. That is a heartbeat away..

I think what we've learned in this last election is that the majority of Americans don't agree with Hollywood actors and pornographers on GFY...even if the president is considered one of the worst ever.

So for people to think that we could just throw a woman up there in 3 1/2 years and all will be right with the world is just too fantastic at this point and time.

There is a growing group of people out there who are tired of porn on the net..or their kid's access to it.
Penis enlargement spams in their emails.
Shock jocks paying off people to fuck in churches for a contest..etc..etc...etc.

And I can't say that I disagree with them to a degree.

We can have free speech...but we can also be responsible.

But that's another issue...my main point is that you and I both know that when you get to the south, the deep south those feelings only get stronger.

We apparently are that far behind. If you listen to some of the poll numbers, they are really scary! Like how many people believe that voting for Bush will protect us from Iraqi attacks on our soil. Uh... WHAT? Okay, Osama Bin Laden is not an Iraqi nor does he have anything to do with Iraq dammit.

Nevermind.. we're just that dumb.

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Everyone was bitchin about too much free porn. Maybe in the end all will be good for our industry.
The Bill of Rights is another issue.

Haight-Ashbury? I read that there were some old Dead Heads out there, but I did not know they had computers :winkwink:

Not sure how many electoral votes where you live, but I think you are a dreamer.

"was" - and that would have been a very different race. He barely won against a Jew-VP, Gore would have probably pulled that one off.

Missouri has 11 electoral votes.

I am a dreamer. I think Parrot Head would be a closer description.

You have a valid point there. A different VP for Gore in the end would have been better for him.

You are old. :)

I have a brother in Misery, I wonder how he feels. . . . Retired military . . . probably doesn't agree.

Wheh he nominated Lieberman I knew he had lost it.

Colin Powell won't run. He's finished. He's been played by his own party. When things were going bad, they put him out there to tell us the kinds of weapons Saddam had and all the other lies. He was used like a puppet. He knows that. He didn't want to go to Iraq. I'm sure he'll retired after this is all said and done. He probably will retire this coming year so that he's not shamed further belonging to a party whose current policy in Iraq is one that he doesn't agree with.

I wouldn't mind seeing Hillary in the whitehouse. Like others have said, I'm not sure that America is ready for a female President, even though gender wouldn't be an issue for me. Is America "that far behind" as somebody put it. I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

She is the brightest but Americans like stupid politicians, so she doesn't stand a chance. Perhaps they should let a monkey run against a republicnan. Only way to win in the red states :1orglaugh

So is Jimmy Buffet.

Wish we had the computer/Internet technology when I was in my 20s-30s... Think of college without a PC or digital calculator.

Maybe too old for GFY? There are a few of us old-timers here. Charly is in his 50s too. There are others, but better off not naming them.

Sad about Powell! A brilliant man with leadership skills.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Bet that's exactly what happens, too. Michael Moore leading the "Elect Hillary" charge. What a collective group of failures Democrats have become.

Which way are things changing though? This President just won an election by the largest margin ever. He ran on an openly faith based "God and Bush = good, everyone else = bad" campaign. There's no question where George stands on religion and the people ate it up.

That would be cool hillary could get her dick sucked in the oval office too

Kim Campbell?

Her short term had to be one of the biggest shams in Canadian history. She only lasted 4 months before she was ousted.

Eros and the others are right, no way a woman would fly as president in the U.S. Having a female prime minister even left a bad taste in most Canadians' mouths.

By the next time a new President is sworn in it will be 44 years before any President from a state other than Ark, GA, TX or SoCal has been President. Bill got elected because he appealed to Southern Democrats and didn't have the elitist liberal label that Kerry and others from the Northeast that the dems keep trying to run have.

They better distance themselves from the michael moore's, alec baldwins and other Hollywood types and start appealing to the avg joe in Nebraska.

Don't hate the playa hate the game.

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We will see in four years !

Now we have to wait to see what Bush will do to our planet ! :(

It will deffinately be cool if she runs in 08,
will also be interesting whu the Republicans will have... I am quite sure it will be Jeb... wonder if the English bookies will take bets on that already :glugglug