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wiZd0m · 09-06-2001, 08:44 AM

Ok, this problem was not a problem before, because ie6 was only a beta, but now it is in the pick of the month on windows update, and this mean, alot of people will download it.

Now the P3P in it, killes all non compliant cookies, and unless programs track the sales by other means of cookies, then we are all losing sales. This is not to bash anyone because it's obviously not the fault of sponsors, but now that they are aware of it, they need to upgrade their cookies handling.

** No need for pictures since it does not seem to be a problem **

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Wizzo · 09-06-2001, 08:46 AM

I'll let Mike know ASAP...

Gary · 09-06-2001, 08:58 AM

Fuck me

Mike69 · 09-06-2001, 09:47 AM

Trust Mirosoft to go and fuck things up again!!!

I am looking into the problem, I'll keep everyone updated.....

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Lensman · 09-06-2001, 10:26 AM

I am aware of Microsoft's new privacy settings.

According to Microsoft, the medium (default) settings should accept all first-party cookies without a published privacy policy.

What you demonstrate is to the contrary, and we are verfifying it.

The good news is that IE6 has been out for a week, so not many people have it.

ldinternet · 09-06-2001, 10:32 AM

I get that little icon thing on my status bar at this board.

Lensman · 09-06-2001, 10:53 AM

WHATTHEFUCK! I can't believe that Wizdom deliberately tried to MISLEAD everyone here.

We just installed IE6 on THREE PCs with the default settings, and NONE OF OUR COOKIES were rejected with the default settings.

In fact, of the SIX privacy settings that you can select, only #5 or #6(reject all cookies) reject the cookies. And 99.9% of users will not set their machines on these settings.

So WHATTHEFUCK Wizdom? You DIDN'T mention that you SET the settings to HIGH, which is two notches above the default setting of #3.

Gee? Why don't you bitch about IE5 too? It has a reject cookie setting also.

Yes, I'm pissed.

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Gary · 09-06-2001, 10:57 AM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Techie Media · 09-06-2001, 11:06 AM

Nevermind..

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sairanx · 09-06-2001, 11:11 AM

I have been using ie6 for a while now and never have seen this behavior either.

Tanker · 09-06-2001, 11:13 AM

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wiZd0m · 09-06-2001, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wiZd0m:
[B]This is not to bash anyone because it's obviously not the fault of sponsors[B]

Why do you attack me and put malice into my intentions? Now I am the bad guy? I raised a legetimate concern and now I am getting hammered for it?

RockDaddy · 09-06-2001, 11:20 AM

I've been using IE6 for months and my cookie settings are medium (default) and what I always see is an exlamation point on my status bar. When I double click that then a window opens up saying something about a privacy policy conflicts with my settings. So I don't know if it is accepting them or not but I can access the page with no problems. I know the first time I saw it I opened it up and looked at it as I assume most will. But I didn't change anything. That might be more of a concern, that surfers will change it when they start investigating what the new exclamation point on the status bar is.

RD

Theo · 09-06-2001, 11:20 AM

wisdom, you work for netscape, your coverage is not working anymore

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Kimmykim · 09-06-2001, 11:28 AM

We've also been doing some testing Lens -- had to re-write a bit of Javascript yesterday to accomodate IE 6 as a matter of fact --

we've noticed NO issues with our cookies and the browser, and we have specifically tested for it --

JakeR · 09-06-2001, 11:40 AM

I was getting the cookie errors too as soon as i installed w.o touching any security settings. i guess if you had your security settings on high on the older IE then they are high after installing the new version?

Juge · 09-08-2001, 09:34 AM

It's better to be aware of a potential problem, and look into it, than to be sitting like a fool with a false sense of security that everything's fine and dandy.

er, what's that? better safe than sorry? yeah, that's it.

what javascript did you guys have to change for IE6? Anything general that the masses should now?

playa · 09-08-2001, 09:53 AM

well wizdom at least your attention were good,,, you brought alot of awareness at least,,

just scared a few people thats all

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Juge · 09-09-2001, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa:
well wizdom at least your attention were good,,, you brought alot of awareness at least,,

just scared a few people thats all

What sucks is that you cant really have IE5 and IE6 installed at the same time, since they are both integrated right into the OS. Is there any way to do this? Short of installing 2 OS's on your computer? It would be nice to ensure your web pages work on the new IE6, but still design them on the most-often used IE5. Any thoughts? I guess it's not that big of a deal, my pages probably look like crap with Netscape, since it cant even handle simple tables worth shit... I've never really bothered to look.

09-06-2001, 08:44 AM	#1
wiZd0m Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,526	ATTN: Webmasters are loosing because of bad cookie handling Ok, this problem was not a problem before, because ie6 was only a beta, but now it is in the pick of the month on windows update, and this mean, alot of people will download it. Now the P3P in it, killes all non compliant cookies, and unless programs track the sales by other means of cookies, then we are all losing sales. This is not to bash anyone because it's obviously not the fault of sponsors, but now that they are aware of it, they need to upgrade their cookies handling. No need for pictures since it does not seem to be a problem [This message has been edited by wiZd0m (edited 09-06-2001).]

09-06-2001, 08:46 AM	#2
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	I'll let Mike know ASAP...

09-06-2001, 08:58 AM	#3
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09-06-2001, 09:47 AM	#4
Mike69 Canadian, nuff said eh? Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Under the coffee maker! Posts: 755	Trust Mirosoft to go and fuck things up again!!! I am looking into the problem, I'll keep everyone updated..... ------------------ Michael Burns Head Programmer for: AmateurPages.com ADULT.COM EraserCash.com GoFuckYourSelf.com and more to come !!! God I love this job!!!

09-06-2001, 10:26 AM	#5
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	I am aware of Microsoft's new privacy settings. According to Microsoft, the medium (default) settings should accept all first-party cookies without a published privacy policy. What you demonstrate is to the contrary, and we are verfifying it. The good news is that IE6 has been out for a week, so not many people have it.

09-06-2001, 10:32 AM	#6
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	I get that little icon thing on my status bar at this board.

09-06-2001, 10:53 AM	#7
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	WHATTHEFUCK! I can't believe that Wizdom deliberately tried to MISLEAD everyone here. We just installed IE6 on THREE PCs with the default settings, and NONE OF OUR COOKIES were rejected with the default settings. In fact, of the SIX privacy settings that you can select, only #5 or #6(reject all cookies) reject the cookies. And 99.9% of users will not set their machines on these settings. So WHATTHEFUCK Wizdom? You DIDN'T mention that you SET the settings to HIGH, which is two notches above the default setting of #3. Gee? Why don't you bitch about IE5 too? It has a reject cookie setting also. Yes, I'm pissed. [This message has been edited by Lensman (edited 09-06-2001).]

09-06-2001, 10:57 AM	#8
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

09-06-2001, 11:06 AM	#9
Techie Media Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,092	Nevermind.. ------------------ Smile and Be Happy Lightning Free Hosting Girls Host Gay Free Hosting [This message has been edited by Lightning (edited 09-06-2001).]

09-06-2001, 11:11 AM	#10
sairanx Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Europe / the Netherlands Posts: 125	I have been using ie6 for a while now and never have seen this behavior either.

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09-06-2001, 11:20 AM	#13
RockDaddy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 750	I've been using IE6 for months and my cookie settings are medium (default) and what I always see is an exlamation point on my status bar. When I double click that then a window opens up saying something about a privacy policy conflicts with my settings. So I don't know if it is accepting them or not but I can access the page with no problems. I know the first time I saw it I opened it up and looked at it as I assume most will. But I didn't change anything. That might be more of a concern, that surfers will change it when they start investigating what the new exclamation point on the status bar is. RD

09-06-2001, 11:20 AM	#14
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	wisdom, you work for netscape, your coverage is not working anymore ------------------ lightningfree.com. They have never been known to redirect [This message has been edited by Soul_Rebel (edited 09-06-2001).]

09-06-2001, 11:28 AM	#15
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	We've also been doing some testing Lens -- had to re-write a bit of Javascript yesterday to accomodate IE 6 as a matter of fact -- we've noticed NO issues with our cookies and the browser, and we have specifically tested for it --

09-06-2001, 11:40 AM	#16
JakeR Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: il and nc Posts: 1,760	I was getting the cookie errors too as soon as i installed w.o touching any security settings. i guess if you had your security settings on high on the older IE then they are high after installing the new version?

09-08-2001, 09:34 AM	#17
Juge Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,917	It's better to be aware of a potential problem, and look into it, than to be sitting like a fool with a false sense of security that everything's fine and dandy. er, what's that? better safe than sorry? yeah, that's it. what javascript did you guys have to change for IE6? Anything general that the masses should now?

09-08-2001, 09:53 AM	#18
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	well wizdom at least your attention were good,,, you brought alot of awareness at least,, just scared a few people thats all ------------------ ------------ Playa icq#38147712 I ain't no NEWBIE www.NoBSdialer.com