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Old 11-04-2004, 10:40 AM   #51
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we're talking about quite some time ago, but you hadn't probably realised that the Romans came from "Rome" hence the name. As an american you probably didn't realise that Rome is in europe, it's in a country called Italy.
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Old 11-04-2004, 10:44 AM   #52
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Aren't they like englands national enquirer
Yeah and their site is down. I tried to look them up. lol

www.mirror.co.uk/
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:00 PM   #53
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Yeah and their site is down. I tried to look them up. lol

www.mirror.co.uk/
still down ;)
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:03 PM   #54
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Atleast somebody is recognizing that their are actually DUMB people in this country.
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:12 PM   #55
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Seems like humor doesn't translate well whether going east or west across 'the pond'.



At least I hope that was an attempt at humor.
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Old 11-04-2004, 01:01 PM   #56
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Not really - people get confused on that point. The Sun and The Mirror are both VERY biased and nothing more than glorified comics but....

They are the 2 biggest selling newspapers in the UK and the majority of people reading them haven't the intelligence to appreciate how much BS is in them.

You've gotta remember that a huge chunk of the population is far from intelligent in most countries as proven in the recent US elections
As usual Tipsy hits the nail on the head - Non American webmasters have already lost 23% of their income due to the Bush dictatorship - Now we have another four years of him grinding America deeper into debt and the dollar closer to the floor - We'll just have to work harder to make up the next 20+% defecit
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Old 11-04-2004, 02:32 PM   #57
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Atleast somebody is recognizing that their are actually DUMB people in this country.
51% ;)
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Old 11-04-2004, 03:46 PM   #58
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Old 11-04-2004, 03:53 PM   #59
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You plan on treating all the allies that supported the war in Iraq this way?

Wait. Every other post on GFY is about how we went in completely alone with no help in an entirely unilateral way.... which is the case?
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:12 PM   #60
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americans are so proud of their constitution, but the british had one in 1215, do a google search for magna carta. and our justice system is the very same one that is copied by pretty much every country throughout the world.
I'm with you on many points but dont critisize him for the Zulu fiasco when you compare the crapa carta to the constitution of the US. Magna carta was solely and completely for the lords and did not give the working class jack squat. Also, it was the 1600's before anyone BUT the barons noticed the thing.
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:17 PM   #61
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:46 PM   #62
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I'm with you on many points but dont critisize him for the Zulu fiasco when you compare the crapa carta to the constitution of the US. Magna carta was solely and completely for the lords and did not give the working class jack squat. Also, it was the 1600's before anyone BUT the barons noticed the thing.
I'll give you that it wasn't a great comparison, but then what i referred to was written 800 years ago. However......

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When Englishmen left their homeland to establish colonies in the New World, they brought with them charters guaranteeing that they and their heirs would "have and enjoy all liberties and immunities of free and natural subjects." Scant generations later, when these American colonists raised arms against their mother country, they were fighting not for new freedoms but to preserve liberties that dated to the 13th century.

When representatives of the young republic of the United States gathered to draft a constitution, they turned to the legal system they knew and admired--English common law as evolved from Magna Carta. The conceptual debt to the great charter is particularly obvious: the American Constitution is "the Supreme Law of the Land," just as the rights granted by Magna Carta were not to be arbitrarily canceled by subsequent English laws.

This heritage is most clearly apparent in our Bill of Rights. The fifth amendment guarantees

No person shall...be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

and the sixth states

...the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury.

Written 575 years earlier, Magna Carta declares

No freeman shall be taken, imprisoned,...or in any other way destroyed...except by the lawful judgment of his peers, or by the law of the land. To no one will we sell, to none will we deny or delay, right or justice.

In 1957 the American Bar Association acknowledged the debt American law and constitutionalism had to Magna Carta and English common law by erecting a monument at Runnymede. Yet, as close as Magna Carta and American concepts of liberty are, they remain distinct. Magna Carta is a charter of ancient liberties guaranteed by a king to his subjects; the Constitution of the United States is the establishment of a government by and for "We the People."
http://www.archives.gov/exhibit_hall...s/magna_carta/
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:47 PM   #63
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:49 PM   #64
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:52 PM   #65
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hahaha <3 that cover

bush is lucky only usa was voting.. if it was a worldwide vote... well... he's a lucky boy
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:53 PM   #66
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:56 PM   #67
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Old 11-04-2004, 05:06 PM   #68
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Wait. Every other post on GFY is about how we went in completely alone with no help in an entirely unilateral way.... which is the case?
You had to spend 90% of resources yourself, so why moan about the one other country that makes up most of the other 10%?
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Old 11-04-2004, 05:07 PM   #69
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You had to spend 90% of resources yourself, 90% is fairly unilateral, but why moan about the one other country that makes up most of the other 10%?
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Old 11-04-2004, 05:14 PM   #70
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Old 11-04-2004, 05:22 PM   #71
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My Response to Europe, especially England:

When trying to make a point it might be good to use the correct name for a country. That is unless you think Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are just fine.
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Old 11-04-2004, 05:26 PM   #72
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"Were I a Kerry voter, though, I'd feel deep anger, not only at them returning Bush to power, but for allowing the outside world to lump us all into the same category of moronic muppets.

The self-righteous, gun-totin', military lovin', sister marryin', abortion-hatin', gay-loathin', foreigner-despisin', non-passport ownin' red-necks, who believe God gave America the biggest dick in the world so it could urinate on the rest of us and make their land "free and strong"."

Man, that is so close to how I feel as an American living abroad who did vote for Kerry. Not that I am a fan of the Mirror or any tabloid but that sums up my frustrations.
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Old 11-04-2004, 05:34 PM   #73
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Not really - people get confused on that point. The Sun and The Mirror are both VERY biased and nothing more than glorified comics but....

They are the 2 biggest selling newspapers in the UK and the majority of people reading them haven't the intelligence to appreciate how much BS is in them.

You've gotta remember that a huge chunk of the population is far from intelligent in most countries as proven in the recent US elections

exactly...both papers have such strong slants that they know what they have to say to get their readers to buy the paper in the morning. The Mail is just as bad and is pretty much writing Conservative policy at the moment.

The Mirror was VERY anti the war and if they did anything other than that cover their readders would have felt let down. It would be like fox telling its viewers to vote Kerry.

I am always slightly uncomfortable about the way papers in this country take such strong editorial lines but I guess that is what people here are used to. In the States it is more like that on TV and not so much in the papers and here it is reversed with the TV and radio news striving to be objective and the retop newspapers being anything but when it comes to politics.

The sun is written on a second grade reading level and never had a paragraph longer than three or four sentences. The mirror isn't all that better.
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Old 11-04-2004, 06:40 PM   #74
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you have to remember the british press are always like thins with things.. a lot relys on where the paper stands on issues.. the mirror is always going to hate bush and everything about him, just what they beleive
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