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Old 09-08-2001, 08:00 AM   #1
jimmyf
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Lensman your cheap your rubbish and you crash peoples Puter's

I just got this email.
If Eraser does all of this shit I'd better the banners and links off my site's I don't want a bunch of PISS'ed off surf'ers.
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You are receiving this email because you have a Webmaster Associate
account with Robin Hood Software Ltd. (Evidence Eliminator Software.)
If you wish to cancel this email and not receive it again, please
locate your account documentation and reply quoting your password on
the first line - we will remove your email from our list. Thanks.

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CONTRAST AS A SALES BOOSTER

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For Associates that are advertising more than one product:

If you have tried any other programs and are happy selling cheap
software that doesn't work, to surfers who don't know the difference,
we can certainly recommend a great new way to make even more money
from your website:

Compare a tatty imitation, to justify EE's price, and therefore sell
more EE at a higher price and a higher payout for you.

It's easy to justify $134.95 for software that's a million times
better. Show your customer a pathetic cheap "disk-washer-eraser" type
program and advertise:


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There's a $70 imitation. It's rubbish. Look what you get for $70. The
advertising's false, it looks like it works but it doesn't, it crashes
your PC, it's full of dangerous bugs. And as for "technical support",
"guarantees" and "upgrades", what do you expect? That is a $70 piece
of junk.

Instead of wasting $70 on that rubbish, use the Original Evidence
Eliminator - it actually WORKS! It's only $134.95 and a million times
better! It can do a completely 100% cleaning job that your wife or
computer repair shop can't un-delete at any price. Isn't that what you
really wanted to buy in the first place? And look - you get FREE
genuine upgrades for life and FREE genuine technical support! AND a
REAL 30-day money-back guarantee from a company you can trust!


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There you have it. You make the same sale, but we pay more. And, your
customer is happy and will thank you for it.

Contrast is a great tool to justify pricing, and motivate people to
buy. Instead of the question in their mind being "do I want this or
not" you can have them thinking "Which one shall I buy today."

Some people might *think* they want a cheap one, but if you show them,
you'll be amazed how easily you can up the price. (And don't forget,
we pay out MORE PER-SALE than anyone who would like to call themselves
a competitor!)

Real-estate agents have been using similar techniques for years,
they'll show you cheaper houses then more expensive ones. After you
have seen a better quality one, it feels bad looking back at a cheap
one.

We have a history of great reviews and top marks by industry reviewers
for our software. We know that major shareware sites have refused to
put EE imitations on their download lists, because they are not of
merchantable quality to be put on public display.

If approached by anyone offering what looks like a copy or imitation
of EE as a reseller opportunity, I strongly suggest that you demand to
see A FULLY-FUNCTIONAL EVALUATION COPY of the software and test it
against forensic tools like Encase available on free download from our
Forensics page at http://www.evidence-eliminator.com/forensics.shtml

Not only do police use this forensic analyzer - your wife can download
it too, free, and companies use it to spy on their staff.

If a vendor is hesitant to demonstrate their software to you,
suspect massive chargebacks around the corner. You can bet the
customer is being scammed and they will claim a refund at some
point.

However, beware of running any cheap nasties on your workstations. One
dreadful imitation of EE we just tried - is so badly manufactured it
trashed our test machine! I dread to imagine their helpdesk emails
which we understand are all being deleted including all the angry
customers demanding refunds. We were prepared for it to crash, because
when we invented EE, there were already many poor-quality file
deletion programs on the market. None of them worked properly which is
the exact reason why EE was designed in the first place!

All the best & have a great weekend,

--
Cheers
Andy Churchill
Director, Robin Hood Software Ltd.

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I saw this kind of shit for the 30 years I was in the Scale Business. I just fucking hate this kind of shit and now I would never put there link back on any page I own even if they had the only game in town.

These fuck'ers better go and take 101 marketing over.

Jim
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Old 09-08-2001, 08:07 AM   #2
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Old 09-08-2001, 08:08 AM   #3
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that's a nice sue reason.
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Old 09-08-2001, 08:10 AM   #4
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or am i wrong?
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Old 09-08-2001, 08:42 AM   #5
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Purely Bad Form on their part...
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Old 09-08-2001, 09:17 AM   #6
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Hmmm, let's see. Your software costs about, double, pays webmasters about the same, and converts half as well. What are you going to do? Trash the competition.

The funny thing is that our affiliate program is less than a month old, and they're already running scared.
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Old 09-08-2001, 10:09 AM   #7
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This EXPENSIVE IMITATION... used to be a CHEAP IMITATION too... till he got greedy a few months back and doubled his prices.

I wonder if that made the product better? OR just pissed his webmasters off when they saw their sales plummet despite his pathetic justifications of how the traffic can bear it. OR was it perhaps raised to support his new infrastructure (servers and UUNET connection) that he will no longer need.

RIP Andy... just send me my check before yah sink.

(yah just know he reads this board)
I just hate getting whiney ass sponsor mails.

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Old 09-08-2001, 10:19 AM   #8
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Same, got it today in my mailbox.

What a joke, mailouts like this do more damage than good to their program for sure.

I'd say its going to take more than a couple of emails to shake the reputation of an Adult.com program.

congrats Lensman, looks like you've done a great job
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Old 09-08-2001, 10:23 AM   #9
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Hahaha, they are shitting themselves. Someone should invite them over to this board for a good knees up.
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Old 09-08-2001, 10:44 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally posted by Soul_Rebel:
that's a nice sue reason
They (EE) have steered clear of that by not naming any names
and only referring to price.

The funny part is for professional commerce orientated ppl
they have phrases like "software that's a million times
better" million times? Sounds like a kid talking.
"The advertising's false" should be "advertising is"
"Show your customer a pathetic cheap" pathetic? makes
them sound like they are having a temper tantrum.

Lensman is right. If they are pumping out this stuff 1 month
after the inception of Internet Eraser then its on-the-roll and
punching a place in the market.

Make them (EE) go away by offering 10% off for anyone who
purchases Internet Eraser in the next three weeks
(to celebrate the return to school {college and university of course}.

We at Internet Eraser know how expensive tuition fees can be
for students attending college and university. For a limited
time we offer a price reduction to support students return to
education.


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Old 09-08-2001, 10:48 AM   #11
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Gee Wilber, you suck at UBB code.

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Old 09-08-2001, 10:52 AM   #12
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ldinternet.

BBS colors and "fancy parts" were never my strong point
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Old 09-08-2001, 12:42 PM   #13
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got the same email

but that's what the delete button is for

i used to do very well with EE until they became greedy and increased the price

thank god eraser cash came along just in time to fill the gap
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