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Ludedude · 09-05-2001, 10:49 AM

I know a lot of people in here promote that program. I've been doing well with it too, but just curious if anyone has some hard numbers on how the new "no trial" version is working?

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Exxxotica · 09-05-2001, 10:51 AM

JakeR · 09-05-2001, 01:07 PM

Gary · 09-05-2001, 01:13 PM

Wizzo · 09-05-2001, 01:17 PM

Overall sales are up 8%, who would have thought??? Except for today, but Ibill had a scheduled 2hr outage...

Plus, the rebill value should be much better, because it gives them a month to forget to cancel!

Kimmykim · 09-05-2001, 01:24 PM

No trial sites should have a definite edge when it comes to rebilling customers, regardless of the forget to cancel issue

And before you make the

faces, give it a month and see how it does -- if it's a partnership program your overall income should increase --

Gary · 09-05-2001, 01:27 PM

I sometimes think this industry was built on the "forget to cancel" economics formula. I remember talking to a paysite owner and i was going through his members section and a couple live feed links no longer worked. I pointed it out to him and he said, we dont update it, we just count on the customers to forget to cancel. LOL

SonOfRage · 09-05-2001, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim:
No trial sites should have a definite edge when it comes to rebilling customers, regardless of the forget to cancel issue

And before you make the faces, give it a month and see how it does -- if it's a partnership program your overall income should increase --

Exxxotica · 09-05-2001, 01:31 PM

LOL, Ive signed up for 2 paysites in my life...both times I forgot to cancell before the 3 day trial expired

Kimmykim · 09-05-2001, 01:43 PM

Just because my moron's in Europe for a month doesn't mean I'm taking applications for a relief worker.

SonOfRage · 09-05-2001, 01:58 PM

Ouch!!! I never thought you Ibill people could be so harsh!!!

SonOfRage · 09-05-2001, 02:01 PM

I think Im going to switch my processor to CCbill. I heard their reps were much nicer

Gary · 09-05-2001, 02:18 PM

Hmmm, i think Kim works for CCBILL

Kimmykim · 09-05-2001, 03:19 PM

Lol Gary, I hope he did know that...

I'm too busy picking football pool to be mean to him right now tho -- you're all welcome to play against me if you like --
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BV · 09-05-2001, 04:02 PM

I run a similar site as the one previously mentioned and have also recently dropped my trial. (going on 6 weeks) Yes you will see fewer signups but more cash!, my 50/50 partners thank me too. I can rant longer on why a "Trial Membership" is a bad idea, BUT since this is my first post I'll save it for later.
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SonOfRage · 09-05-2001, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary:
Hmmm, i think Kim works for CCBILL

That master of sarcasm did see that one? Geez Gary, I think you may be loosing your touch.

Royaltee_Gee · 09-05-2001, 04:17 PM

Im still getting alot of trial signups from the exit pop. Im noticing around 50% normal signups and 50% trials.

Ludedude · 09-05-2001, 05:42 PM

OK, fair enough. I've stated in the past that I'm NOT a fan of partnership programs that have a trial. I like the site itself, and did really well with it in August, but Septembers numbers to date (since the inception of the new pricing model) look like this:
TOTALS 1212 1 1212:1
and August looked like this:
TOTALS 11308 43 263:1

I just had some custom content shot to promote the site, and certainly plan to keep doing so, I was just a little taken back by the "off the cliff" behavior of the numbers and wanted to get a reading from the rest of you on it.

Thanks for the input

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Ludedude · 09-06-2001, 10:52 PM

OK, only fair to report on today's experiences. Today was 4 sales, 1:110 overall and all of them were outright purchases, not trials.

Just FYI for you guys.

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The Truth · 09-06-2001, 11:12 PM

!!! god bless drunk sluts !!!

I have only been pushing them for a week so I don't have any experiences with them with the trial but so far this week I am 15:4095 || 1:273 with strictly (so called) crappy TGP traffic. I can't wait 'til next month to see how the re-bills are.

Lensman · 09-07-2001, 10:51 AM

OK, we've been testing this for a week. Signups are 90% of what they were a week ago (if we backout the new webmasters which would make it actually higher).

Also, remember, we pop a trial offer if they don't take the full.

The no trial thing works, we are going to be testing some different (higher) price points now. We are also adding an option for webmasters that want to sell only a trial can change their linkng code for that. (we think your nuts, but a couple of you above seem to want it)

Ludedude · 09-07-2001, 01:01 PM

Thanks for the numbers Lensman.

I LIKE no-trial recurring programs...just watch that pricepoint. I'm betting real money that you guys are up near the acceptable level for the casual surfer who says...wtf it's only $24.95. Get higher, and they may start thinking twice...it's a psychological thing. 20 bucks is almost meaningless when he's got his dick in his hands, but push that limit and the remorse factor goes up.

I had a major sponsor I work closely with go through a range and settled on $19.95 with no trial. Works like gangbusters, 50/50 recurring, and I've got rebills up the ying yang every month...I'm loving it.

Anyway, just relating my personal experiences. I hope to be collecting that cash from DS for a long time.

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Makaveli · 09-07-2001, 09:12 PM

This month 1105:1

I'm hoping things pick up.

I don't even want to tell you about my flash cash stats for this month eek!

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oscer · 09-07-2001, 09:59 PM

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DarkJedi · 09-08-2001, 03:39 AM

well, my ratio sucks some fat ass

maybe put back the trial ?

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TheFLY · 09-08-2001, 08:24 AM

I'll have to try the new program... I only sent a few signups to drunksluts but it was some nice money even still... If I remember correctly I had more than a couple chargebacks/revokes/etc... My logic was that the mentality of the guy that likes "drunksluts" -- he's sortof a younger guy -- "immature" -- maybe even sneaky... This is generally speaking of course -- but think about it -- if you're selling a lock picking kit -- there's a good chance that you will have a lot of chargebacks -- or maybe I am just sick and perverted -- but is a drunkslut a slut before she's drunk? ehehe...

Anyway another thing I noticed -- and this is true w/ any partnership program -- you guys are throwing out conversion rations but it really depends on how you are sending traffic -- ie: a banner or a thumb or whatever... I was using a banner off the partnership cash site and I was pulling ok -- then I tried one of the animated images off the drunkslut site and that ad pulled about 4x better but the conversions weren't as good -- so I'm sure there's some kind of magic ad that will pull just the $$$ and not my hard earned traffic ;)

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09-05-2001, 10:49 AM	#1
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	DrunkSlut...how's it working without the trial? I know a lot of people in here promote that program. I've been doing well with it too, but just curious if anyone has some hard numbers on how the new "no trial" version is working? ------------------ Make BANK with these Babes! The Webmaster's Folder The Midnight TGP2 Submitter

09-05-2001, 10:51 AM	#2
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09-05-2001, 01:17 PM	#5
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	Overall sales are up 8%, who would have thought??? Except for today, but Ibill had a scheduled 2hr outage... Plus, the rebill value should be much better, because it gives them a month to forget to cancel!

09-05-2001, 01:24 PM	#6
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	No trial sites should have a definite edge when it comes to rebilling customers, regardless of the forget to cancel issue And before you make the faces, give it a month and see how it does -- if it's a partnership program your overall income should increase --

09-05-2001, 01:27 PM	#7
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	I sometimes think this industry was built on the "forget to cancel" economics formula. I remember talking to a paysite owner and i was going through his members section and a couple live feed links no longer worked. I pointed it out to him and he said, we dont update it, we just count on the customers to forget to cancel. LOL

09-05-2001, 01:31 PM	#9
Exxxotica Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oregun Posts: 4,396	LOL, Ive signed up for 2 paysites in my life...both times I forgot to cancell before the 3 day trial expired

09-05-2001, 01:43 PM	#10
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Just because my moron's in Europe for a month doesn't mean I'm taking applications for a relief worker.

09-05-2001, 01:58 PM	#11
SonOfRage Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: You have a cute daughter, mind if I jack? Posts: 632	Ouch!!! I never thought you Ibill people could be so harsh!!!

09-05-2001, 02:01 PM	#12
SonOfRage Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: You have a cute daughter, mind if I jack? Posts: 632	I think Im going to switch my processor to CCbill. I heard their reps were much nicer

09-05-2001, 02:18 PM	#13
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	Hmmm, i think Kim works for CCBILL

09-05-2001, 03:19 PM	#14
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Lol Gary, I hope he did know that... I'm too busy picking football pool to be mean to him right now tho -- you're all welcome to play against me if you like -- http://216.218.221.164/opc.html

09-05-2001, 04:02 PM	#15
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	I run a similar site as the one previously mentioned and have also recently dropped my trial. (going on 6 weeks) Yes you will see fewer signups but more cash!, my 50/50 partners thank me too. I can rant longer on why a "Trial Membership" is a bad idea, BUT since this is my first post I'll save it for later. BV BikiniVoyeur.Com

09-05-2001, 04:17 PM	#17
Royaltee_Gee Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 973	Im still getting alot of trial signups from the exit pop. Im noticing around 50% normal signups and 50% trials.

09-05-2001, 05:42 PM	#18
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	OK, fair enough. I've stated in the past that I'm NOT a fan of partnership programs that have a trial. I like the site itself, and did really well with it in August, but Septembers numbers to date (since the inception of the new pricing model) look like this: TOTALS 1212 1 1212:1 and August looked like this: TOTALS 11308 43 263:1 I just had some custom content shot to promote the site, and certainly plan to keep doing so, I was just a little taken back by the "off the cliff" behavior of the numbers and wanted to get a reading from the rest of you on it. Thanks for the input ------------------ Make BANK with these Babes! The Webmaster's Folder The Midnight TGP2 Submitter

09-06-2001, 10:52 PM	#19
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	OK, only fair to report on today's experiences. Today was 4 sales, 1:110 overall and all of them were outright purchases, not trials. Just FYI for you guys. ------------------ Make BANK with these Babes! The Webmaster's Folder The Midnight TGP2 Submitter

09-06-2001, 11:12 PM	#20
The Truth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: U.S.of A. Posts: 920	!!! god bless drunk sluts !!! I have only been pushing them for a week so I don't have any experiences with them with the trial but so far this week I am 15:4095 \|\| 1:273 with strictly (so called) crappy TGP traffic. I can't wait 'til next month to see how the re-bills are.

09-07-2001, 10:51 AM	#21
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	OK, we've been testing this for a week. Signups are 90% of what they were a week ago (if we backout the new webmasters which would make it actually higher). Also, remember, we pop a trial offer if they don't take the full. The no trial thing works, we are going to be testing some different (higher) price points now. We are also adding an option for webmasters that want to sell only a trial can change their linkng code for that. (we think your nuts, but a couple of you above seem to want it)

09-07-2001, 01:01 PM	#22
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	Thanks for the numbers Lensman. I LIKE no-trial recurring programs...just watch that pricepoint. I'm betting real money that you guys are up near the acceptable level for the casual surfer who says...wtf it's only $24.95. Get higher, and they may start thinking twice...it's a psychological thing. 20 bucks is almost meaningless when he's got his dick in his hands, but push that limit and the remorse factor goes up. I had a major sponsor I work closely with go through a range and settled on $19.95 with no trial. Works like gangbusters, 50/50 recurring, and I've got rebills up the ying yang every month...I'm loving it. Anyway, just relating my personal experiences. I hope to be collecting that cash from DS for a long time. ------------------ Make BANK with these Babes! The Webmaster's Folder The Midnight TGP2 Submitter

09-07-2001, 09:12 PM	#23
Makaveli Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,027	This month 1105:1 I'm hoping things pick up. I don't even want to tell you about my flash cash stats for this month eek! ------------------ Submit To Green ThumbsTGP.Com

09-07-2001, 09:59 PM	#24
oscer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Baltimore Posts: 2,834	I think sales Are Decent Especially with the Shit Traffic i have ------------------ Stynk Adult Freehost FuckHost Freehosting

09-08-2001, 03:39 AM	#25
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	well, my ratio sucks some fat ass maybe put back the trial ? ------------------ 181st TGP ICQ 30144710

09-08-2001, 08:24 AM	#26
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	I'll have to try the new program... I only sent a few signups to drunksluts but it was some nice money even still... If I remember correctly I had more than a couple chargebacks/revokes/etc... My logic was that the mentality of the guy that likes "drunksluts" -- he's sortof a younger guy -- "immature" -- maybe even sneaky... This is generally speaking of course -- but think about it -- if you're selling a lock picking kit -- there's a good chance that you will have a lot of chargebacks -- or maybe I am just sick and perverted -- but is a drunkslut a slut before she's drunk? ehehe... Anyway another thing I noticed -- and this is true w/ any partnership program -- you guys are throwing out conversion rations but it really depends on how you are sending traffic -- ie: a banner or a thumb or whatever... I was using a banner off the partnership cash site and I was pulling ok -- then I tried one of the animated images off the drunkslut site and that ad pulled about 4x better but the conversions weren't as good -- so I'm sure there's some kind of magic ad that will pull just the $$$ and not my hard earned traffic ;) ------------------ ...from the nectar of the Bone flows all that clicks...