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Old 11-03-2004, 01:32 AM   #1
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Conspiracy Theory

Possibly as many as 250,000 people who showed up to vote weren't found in the system in Ohio?

Same shit happened here in Florida. When I went to vote I wasn't showing up in the computer nor were 3 other people while I was there and when I walked out a poll watcher said the same thing was happening to a lot of people who should have been in the computer but mysteriously weren't.

Multiply it out by all 50 states and I bet were in the millions.

Hmmmmmm.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:34 AM   #2
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sad times we live in

i mean in afganistan they the voting is more accurate then in the us
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:34 AM   #3
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I was registered under my married name for over 3-4 months now, when I showed up I wasnt in the books with my married name, but with my madien name, needless to say, I was pissed, they hadnt added me even though I had a registration card and everything. I did get to vote though, but was pissed becasue the didnt have me in the books like i was registered.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:38 AM   #4
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yeah shit is pretty messed up. How can we relect Bush, I just don't get it. Are we stupid?
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Old 11-03-2004, 02:36 AM   #5
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Are we stupid?
apparently most of us are.... the fucked up thing those bible thumping fucks that put bush back in office secrectly beat off to twink tgps.

im pissed if you couldnt tell....
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Old 11-03-2004, 02:38 AM   #6
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America, land of the free (masons).
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Old 11-03-2004, 02:41 AM   #7
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Possibly as many as 250,000 people who showed up to vote weren't found in the system in Ohio?

Same shit happened here in Florida. When I went to vote I wasn't showing up in the computer nor were 3 other people while I was there and when I walked out a poll watcher said the same thing was happening to a lot of people who should have been in the computer but mysteriously weren't.

Multiply it out by all 50 states and I bet were in the millions.

Hmmmmmm.
Yeah, my two neighbors went in to vote for Bush and they were told they weren't in the system. If it was a conspiracy.... it doesnt look like it's going to work.
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Old 11-03-2004, 02:42 AM   #8
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Kudos to the women who had an attorney come to check her computer and not allowing anyone else there to touch it

I don't know what's going to happen, I'm not American but I have an American step-son and American husband and a dual citizen(can./amer.) son and I just think it's fishy, how he's gotten so many popular votes as well...just doesn't seem right.

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Old 11-03-2004, 02:48 AM   #9
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http://www.blackboxvoting.org/#breaking

We now have evidence that certainly looks like altering a computerized voting system during a real election, and it happened just six weeks ago.

MONDAY Nov 1 2004: New information indicates that hackers may be targeting the central computers counting our votes tomorrow. All county elections officials who use modems to transfer votes from polling places to the central vote-counting server should disconnect the modems now.

There is no down side to removing the modems. Simply drive the vote cartridges from each polling place in to the central vote-counting location by car, instead of transmitting by modem. ?Turning off? the modems may not be sufficient. Disconnect the central vote counting server from all modems, INCLUDING PHONE LINES, not just Internet.

In a very large county, this will add at most one hour to the vote-counting time, while offering significant protection from outside intrusion.

It appears that such an attack may already have taken place, in a primary election 6 weeks ago in King County, Washington -- a large jurisdiction with over one million registered voters. Documents, including internal audit logs for the central vote-counting computer, along with modem ?trouble slips? consistent with hacker activity, show that the system may have been hacked on Sept. 14, 2004. Three hours is now missing from the vote-counting computer's "audit log," an automatically generated record, similar to the black box in an airplane, which registers certain kinds of events.

COMPUTER FOLKS:

Here are the details about remote access vulnerability through the modem connecting polling place voting machines with the central vote-counting server in each county elections office. This applies specifically to all Diebold systems (1,000 counties and townships), and may also apply to other vendors. The prudent course of action is to disconnect all modems, since the downside is small and the danger is significant.

The central servers are installed on unpatched, open Windows computers and use RAS (Remote Access Server) to connect to the voting machines through telephone lines. Since RAS is not adequately protected, anyone in the world, even terrorists, who can figure out the server's phone number can change vote totals without being detected by observers.

The passwords in many locations are easily guessed, and the access phone numbers can be learned through social engineering or war dialing.

ELECTION OFFICIALS: The only way to protect tomorrow's election from this type of attack is to disconnect the servers from the modems now. Under some configurations, attacks by remote access are possible even if the modem appears to be turned off. The modem lines should be physically disconnected.

We obtained these documents through a public records request. The video was taken at a press conference held by the King County elections chief Friday Oct 29.

The audit log is a computer-generated automatic record similar to the "black box" in an airplane, that automatically records access to the Diebold GEMS central tabulator (unless, of course, you go into it in the clandestine way we demonstrated on September 22 in Washington DC at the National Press club.)

The central tabulator audit log is an FEC-required security feature. The kinds of things it detects are the kinds of things you might see if someone was tampering with the votes: Opening the vote file, previewing and/or printing interim results, altering candidate definitions (a method that can be used to flip votes).

Three hours is missing altogether from the Sept. 14 Washington State primary held six weeks ago.
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Old 11-03-2004, 02:53 AM   #11
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Not to mention people have been waiting in line for hours and hours to vote... The last ten people who voted waited 8 hours?? Seesh.
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Old 11-03-2004, 03:01 AM   #12
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face it your votes were useless, money still rules the world and nobody can touch that.

This really makes me sad
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Old 11-03-2004, 03:17 AM   #14
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lol that's true but what is the relevancy to this thread?
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Old 11-03-2004, 04:50 AM   #15
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bush does whatever it takes.. motherfucking scumbag peace of shit
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Old 11-03-2004, 04:51 AM   #16
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i mean in afganistan they the voting is more accurate then in the us
so fucking true
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Old 11-03-2004, 04:52 AM   #17
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Possibly as many as 250,000 people who showed up to vote weren't found in the system in Ohio?

Same shit happened here in Florida. When I went to vote I wasn't showing up in the computer nor were 3 other people while I was there and when I walked out a poll watcher said the same thing was happening to a lot of people who should have been in the computer but mysteriously weren't.

Multiply it out by all 50 states and I bet were in the millions.

Hmmmmmm.
so overall you didn't vote?
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Old 11-03-2004, 04:54 AM   #18
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they are just doing it to try and begin a civil war meanwhile they are hiding in underground facilities and planning huge viral/bombings on people.

nice fucking place huh
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Old 11-03-2004, 07:07 AM   #19
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conspiracy is always part of an election. we can't avoid it .too bad.
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Possibly as many as 250,000 people who showed up to vote weren't found in the system in Ohio?

Same shit happened here in Florida. When I went to vote I wasn't showing up in the computer nor were 3 other people while I was there and when I walked out a poll watcher said the same thing was happening to a lot of people who should have been in the computer but mysteriously weren't.

Multiply it out by all 50 states and I bet were in the millions.

Hmmmmmm.
Why didn't you fill out a provisional ballot?
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KRL I had to use a provisional ballot for the same reason and they told me I wasn't in any of the computers so I won't know if my vote counted for another day.

While I was there 5 other people weren't on the list and all had to use provisional ballots. Was definitely some shady BS going on, 5 people doesn't sound like a lot but only about 25 to 35 people came in while I was there. So 5 people was a high % for that to happen to.

Add that in with the fact a large amount of people were complaining they never received their absentee ballot's and you know some BS was up.
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Bush hacked the systems :D
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The republicans are always pulling bullshit like this,,,
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:01 AM   #25
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Why didn't you fill out a provisional ballot?
LOL, the guy running the show refused to give us any. I got into a heated argument as did the others that legally he was required to. He was on a major power trip and said legally he was the boss of this precinct and what he said goes.

As soon as I walked outside poll watchers came up and said they were having a lot of problems at this location and I filled out a voter complaint form, affidavit, and they had me talk to a voter's rights attorney they called on a cell phone who was developing a lawsuit for everyone who got the run around from this voting location.
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Yeah, my two neighbors went in to vote for Bush and they were told they weren't in the system. If it was a conspiracy.... it doesnt look like it's going to work.
I'm telling you someone got into the registration database and went to town with the delete key.



Its actually not funny, so I don't know why I'm laughing. Its pretty scary in actuality.
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yeah shit is pretty messed up. How can we relect Bush, I just don't get it. Are we stupid?
well the democrats were stupid for going with kerry. anyone could tell he was a stiff. they would have done better just bringing back gore
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