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Old 11-01-2004, 04:25 PM   #1
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Political Post; someone please help me

I'm trying to get all this political stuff straightened out in my head so I'll know how to vote. Right now, we have one guy saying one thing, the other guy says something else. Who to believe? Let me see if I have this straight....

Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia = Good
Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq = Bad
Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia = Good
Bush spends 88 billion on war in Iraq = Bad
Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia = Good
Bush imposes regime change in IRAQ = Bad
Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists = Good
Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator = bad

Clinton bombs Chinese embassy = Good
Bush bombs terrorist camps = bad
Clinton commits felonies while in offce = Good
Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit = Bad
No mass graves found in Serbia = Good
No WMD in IRAQ = Bad
Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton = Good
Economy on upswing under Bush = Bad
Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden = Good
World Trade Centers fall under Bush = Bad
Clinton says Saddam has nukes = Good
Bush says Saddam has nukes = bad
Clinton calls for regime change in IRAQ = Good
Bush imposes regime change regime change in IRAQ = Bad

Terrorists training in Afghanistan under Clinton = Good
Bush destroys training camps = Bad
Milosevic not yet convicted = Good
Saddam turned over for trial = Bad

Its so confusing....

Every year an independent tax watchdog group analyzes the average tax burden on Americans, and then calculates the "Tax Freedom Day". This is the day after which the money you earn goes to you, not the gov't. This year, tax freedom day was April 11th. That's the earliest it has been since 1991. It's latest day ever was May 2nd, which occured in 2000. Notice anything special about those dates?

Recently John Kerry gave a speech in which he claimed Americans are actually paying more taxes under Bush, despite the tax cuts. He gave no explanation and provided no data for his claim.
Another interesting fact: Both George Bush and John Kerry are wealthy men. Bush owns one home, his ranch in Texas. Kerry owns 4 mansions, all worth several million dollars. (his ski resort home in Idaho is an old barn brought over from Europe in pieces, not your average A-Frame). Bush paid 250K in taxes this year: Kerry paid $90K.

Does that sound right? The man who wants to raise your taxes obviously has figured out a way to avoid paying his own.
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Old 11-01-2004, 04:29 PM   #2
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Smells like....
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Old 11-01-2004, 04:43 PM   #3
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Smells like....
Please tell me what you think is bullshit?

Is it because what he posted is not what you have come to believe from hearing what the media wants to show, or from opinions gathered on an adult webmaster board?

Im not a Bush supporter, so don't flame me.
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Old 11-01-2004, 04:49 PM   #4
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Please tell me what you think is bullshit?

Is it because what he posted is not what you have come to believe from hearing what the media wants to show, or from opinions gathered on an adult webmaster board?

Im not a Bush supporter, so don't flame me.
Its bullshit because

A. You do support Bush

B. The numbers are bullshit, and the poster pasted this from another board:
http://www.cruel.com/discuss/viewMessage.php/120491
Why the hell can't right wingers come up with their own thoughts?
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Old 11-01-2004, 04:58 PM   #5
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I didnt paste shit, a friend at work gave it to me and I typed it all out....
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Old 11-01-2004, 05:03 PM   #6
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I didnt paste shit, a friend at work gave it to me and I typed it all out....
Well either way don't you think you should check facts before posting shit like that? For one thing the cost of the Iraq war SO FAR is $143 billion, not $88 billion, and everything is can be disputed but I'm not even going to waste my time.
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Old 11-01-2004, 05:06 PM   #7
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Please tell me what you think is bullshit?

Is it because what he posted is not what you have come to believe from hearing what the media wants to show, or from opinions gathered on an adult webmaster board?

Im not a Bush supporter, so don't flame me.
It is bullshit because:

We entered Serbia to end the GENOCIDE that was going on there. There is no comparison.

We entered Serbia backed by the UN and supported by the global community.

We lost 19 American lives in Serbia defending civilians- we've lost over a thousand lives in Iraq defending OIL.

The cost of Serbia was only a fraction of what we are spending on Iraq.

Clinton sent warheads into afghanistan, thwarted Al-Queda's 2000 New Years Eve attack, and treated Bin Laden as a threat- Bush was playing golf and ignoring CIA memos until 9-11 happened.
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