My father was there and was so many others who well tell you the stuff kerry said was true

blah blah blah. what a lovely story
here's how it really is. he went to war, was a hero, came home and exposed injustices going on in vietnam, threw away his medals, or where they his friends? now he campaigns on being a great war hero and looks for ever photo op possible with vets. you give him a pass because you want him to win which is bullshit. thats like a ex nazi gestapo talking about the killings jews and then running on the platform "i killed for hitler and im a hero". vietnam isnt something to protest against because its popular, and then something to be proud of when its election time.

Kerry told the truth but middle America has never wanted to face up to the evil shit that went on in Vietnam.

The truth does hurt...

you're right, he did tell the truth and you cant knock him for it. but as i said, you cant say something was unjust and then use it as something positive when it suits you.

I always thought it was primarily in response to continous attacks on his service by the Republicans.

attacks only began when he started saying how big of a war hero he was and started packing his tour bus with war vets.
"look at me! -kerry 04"

He gets credit for being brave enough to go. And he gets credit for telling us the truth when he came home. It's not "pick one or the other". The merits of each act are not mutually exclusive.

Contrary to what some republicans seem to believe, you can have both big balls and credibility. You don't have to choose between 'tough' and 'smart'.

The difference between the USA and Nazi Germany are that we have people willing to stand up to our leaders and hold them accountable. (like Kerry did) If Germany had citizenry like that in 1940, maybe Hitler wouldn't have gone so far.

Why can't he use something positive that he did just because it was from an unjust war?

Same reason most every other fuckhead wasn't.

By the way my "logic" tells me you are wasting your vote and it makes 0 sense.

he had what, 3 medals he threw away during a protest? if he was so proud of his service when he returned, he would of never done that. oh wait those were his friends. now he's proud to be a vet and playing the hero roll which is bullshit. you cant have it both ways. i wasnt compairing nazi germany to the usa, but my example is still valid. you cant complain about something and protest againsnt and then use it on your resume as a great moment in your life. if he wasnt proud of it when he returned home, he shouldnt say he's proud of it now and hope it gets him votes.

I've never met a vietnam vet that wouldn't own up the the bullshit that went on, it haunts them still today. The rest of them are so mentally fucked up today they are incapable of any resemblance of a normal life. Guess that's what happens when you hold all that shit in.

he's never listed any positives until it was running time. he should run on the platform of holding people accountable instead of i was a hero in a war that was unjust which i commited atrocities in so vote for me because i got medals.

Huh? How am I "wasting my vote"? :eek7

This is one of the most important elections in our history and you are voting for someone that never had even a hint of a chance to be elected.

whats your point? maybe kerry was proud to have served our country? you really think the government is gonna start throwing a bunch of it's own soldiers in jail for war crimes? most of them didn't even wanna be there, but they didn't have a choice. this is such a non-issue that both sides keep trying to spin one way or the other, it's pathetic!

Because I'm voting for someone I like rather then for someone I don't like, I'm "wasting my vote"? Why on earth would I support someone who's ideals and proposed policies are almost completely at odds with my ideals? That, to me, would be a wasted vote.

I prefer to not help perpetuate this attrocity that is the 2 party system. I prefer to tell both major parties that I am a voter who would rather vote for someone who isn't going to win then support them. So long as the 2 parties have enough sheep that are too scared to vote for anyone else, they'll stay in power.

Fuck that! I'll vote my conscience and sleep well at night knowing that I voted to resist the socialist demoncrats and the fascist repugnicans.