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Old 10-29-2004, 01:18 PM   #1
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Chris Stewart is no longer the manager of CJ Bucks but he rocks - Details inside

Chris Stewart is no longer the manager of CJ Bucks. He?s a great guy and a pleasure to work with. Not only do I have no hard feelings but I actually recommend him to anyone who is looking for help running their program. He?s worked hard and always been loyal. He?s just another victim of the global outsourcing problem. We?ve given him a nice severance package and wish him all the best.

That said, all CJ Bucks operations have been outsourced to Panama. Please contact Paul Dinin ([email protected]) for all support and related webmaster issues. The company in Panama has hired many new people for CJ Bucks and the velocity of development is about to increase dramatically. Expect great things.
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:26 PM   #2
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Good luck Chris in your future endeavours.

And best of luck to CJBucks.

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That's a Bummer Chris Rocked! Sad to hear man. I have room here for ya bud. Hit me up we can workout some details!
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Damn - sorry to hear that chris. Eamil me [email protected] - we may have some work for you.
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Rick and the CJCrew!!... It's been a pleasure working with all of you over the past year.


Anyone that wants to contact me , I can be reached at [email protected].

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Old 10-29-2004, 01:38 PM   #6
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I'm really sorry to hear that.

Let me say that Chris is one of the most cool guys I have ever worked with.

Rick, you just lost a great guy and a superb paysite manager.

Chris, all the best from me I'm sure that whatever you start doing will get golden
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Chris, what a shame to see you go, you made it happen with me & CJbucks. I wish you all the best in your future endeavours.

Marian - funny to see you post here
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Rick, you just lost a great guy and a superb paysite manager.
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Good luck to Chris, I am sure he will find a nice place to work at.

Hope all is well with you guys in Panama heard it was a great place to visit ;-)
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Wow. I'm very surprised by this.

Chris, all the best to you! I'm sure you will soon
have people knocking down your door.

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That's a Bummer Chris Rocked! Sad to hear man. I have room here for ya bud. Hit me up we can workout some details!

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I'm really sorry to hear that.

Let me say that Chris is one of the most cool guys I have ever worked with.

Rick, you just lost a great guy and a superb paysite manager.

Chris, all the best from me I'm sure that whatever you start doing will get golden

Thank you Marian, You rock girl... You're a great friend and one of the best designers I've ever seen.


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chris is a great guy and i wish u all the luck man!
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Damn, I wasn't expecting that. Good luck in whatever you choose to do. Looks like you already have some great opportunities.

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That's really sad. Chris was one of the best reps to work with. But I'm sure he'll find another job real fast!

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Best of luck Chris

why don't you just move down to Panama? Is that an option?

seems rather cutthroat to me

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I'm really sorry to hear that.

Let me say that Chris is one of the most cool guys I have ever worked with.

Rick, you just lost a great guy and a superb paysite manager.

Chris, all the best from me I'm sure that whatever you start doing will get golden
Hey Marian,

Just wanted to let you know that I've got a large staff on hand to assist you and every CJBucks/AVO webmaster with anything you need. Be it custom design, hosting -- you name it. But I do want to get in touch with you, specifically, so we can make sure no balls get dropped during this transition. You are one of our most favorite affiliates, and I want to make sure everything goes smoothly. MY ICQ is 815-371-74, and email is [email protected]. If you need anything don't hesitate to ask.
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sorry to hear that but it's a sign of the times vote Kerry and get chris a job...
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Hey, thanks man

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Rick, what made you choose Panama as an outsource destination as opposed to other typical outsource countries?
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Nice way to treat a "loyal, hard working, highly recommended" employee.

So you admit outsourcing is a "problem", yet you throw one of your best workers out the door and add to the problem? Don't know why anyone living in the US would want to continue to support cjbucks
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big props to cjbucks, at least your honest about the outsourcing
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Good luck to all concerened and I just hope that the move doesn't come back and bite CJ in the ass. But then so many companies have to find that out the hard way it seems.
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Nice way to treat a "loyal, hard working, highly recommended" employee.

So you admit outsourcing is a "problem", yet you throw one of your best workers out the door and add to the problem? Don't know why anyone living in the US would want to continue to support cjbucks

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Nice to see you giving Chris a great recommendation, Rick, and explaining the reason for the split. Very professional
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Am i the only one who finds this extremely horrible.


If the guy is such a great guy like you and everyone says.

Then why fire him and give him job to some cheap labor worker in panama who will work for half the price and make you more money...


Err wait. I just answered my own question. More money for you.
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Nice to see you giving Chris a great recommendation, Rick, and explaining the reason for the split. Very professional
I'm not sure I concur with you on this one.
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out sourced all the jobs?




I rather keep my country employed even it cost me more than outsource it and put good people out of work
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He?s just another victim of the global outsourcing problem.
If you consider it a problem...why would you contribute to said problem?

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I rather keep my country employed even it cost me more than outsource it and put good people out of work
Outsourcing => your company remains competitive, and therefore continues to bring money into your country

Not outsourcing => your company loses it's edge, profits fall, other (foreign) companies eventually drive you out of business

There is no alternative.
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Chris Stewart is no longer the manager of CJ Bucks. He?s worked hard and always been loyal. He?s just another victim of the global outsourcing problem.


The company in Panama has hired many new people for CJ Bucks

No offence, but that was tacky.
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Outsourcing => your company remains competitive, and therefore continues to bring money into your country

Not outsourcing => your company loses it's edge, profits fall, other (foreign) companies eventually drive you out of business

There is no alternative.
i dont know what company rick got for outsourcing but all my experence with outsourcing has been negative. Having someone work for you that doestn even understand this inudstry ( and yes i honestly think a office full of people from panama are not adult webmasters ) could make your biz competitive ?

If anyhting will just piss off webmasters


Kudos to rick for being honest on what is going on with his company and I know he will come out on top but we wil see how this outsource shit works
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I can see outsourcing maybe graphic designers as if they got the skills why not

but outsourcing a " managment " position and tech support and other aspects of your business that you deal with your clients on a personal level ...

i just dont understand that



Are you guys gonna have a booth at the show? I can just imagin your staff there
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i dont know what company rick got for outsourcing but all my experence with outsourcing has been negative. Having someone work for you that doestn even understand this inudstry ( and yes i honestly think a office full of people from panama are not adult webmasters ) could make your biz competitive ?

If anyhting will just piss off webmasters


Kudos to rick for being honest on what is going on with his company and I know he will come out on top but we wil see how this outsource shit works
The effectiveness of outsourcing completely depends on the companies/people you do business with. There are good ones and bad ones. Many people who have had bad experiences with "outsourcing" have actually just done business with amateurish third rate companies. That isn't a good idea independent of country.
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Chris Stewart is no longer the manager of CJ Bucks. He?s a great guy and a pleasure to work with. Not only do I have no hard feelings but I actually recommend him to anyone who is looking for help running their program. He?s worked hard and always been loyal. He?s just another victim of the global outsourcing problem. We?ve given him a nice severance package and wish him all the best.

That said, all CJ Bucks operations have been outsourced to Panama. Please contact Paul Dinin ([email protected]) for all support and related webmaster issues. The company in Panama has hired many new people for CJ Bucks and the velocity of development is about to increase dramatically. Expect great things.
a severence package and a positive reference is a good deal by adult internet standards..
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My business partner and best friend works in the office of this "outsourcing" company in Panama. Panama is in the eastern time zone and a closer flight from Atlanta than Las Vegas. This is hardly a situation where we are letting another company handle everything. If you guys think long and hard enough about this it will make sense.
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