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Amputate Your Head · 09-01-2001, 10:42 PM

Next week I'm gonna be putting up a gob of new sites revolving around fat girl content and was wondering if any of you have had any luck regarding conversions with this type of content...?

It's personally not my favorite stuff to work with, but I got a ton of it (no pun intended) and need to do something with it... just hope it won't be a waste of time.

Nysus · 09-01-2001, 11:05 PM

I talked to a guy a while ago about fat content and galleries and if I recall correctly, he said it helped with ratios when he added some medium sized women as well as to the extreme, just so if some people will get disturbed by the big big ladies, seeing the medium sized women may regain their attention.

Hope that helps out..

Cheers

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Amputate Your Head · 09-01-2001, 11:12 PM

I guess I'm confused on the upsell of this stuff... do ya upsell to good lookin' babes in the theory that they're totally disgusted with the fat chiks? Or on the other hand, if they're in there lookin' at fat chiks cuz they get off on that stuff, upselling to serious babes might totally turn them off and might be better to send them off to an even MORE extreme fat site??

This is a niche I am confused by, I guess because I'm not into that stuff at all....

BruceM · 09-03-2001, 08:06 AM

I think this link will answer all your questions:
http://www.asotd.com/twistedvideo/salsadancer.ram

Chris R · 09-03-2001, 08:12 AM

That really rose more questions than answered them for me

Man, I guess I don't really get it either. I mean I can understand being for women with a little meat on her bones. But some of these women are shall we say impressive...

I know that a lot of guys fantasize about women like their exgirlfriends or whatever - and I can understand some big boned women porn, but that I just don't get.

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Sjayne · 09-03-2001, 09:34 AM

Okay this is the one area I know most.

Mostly cause I am a BBW and a BBW model (been in a few magazines and have my own site) as well as a webmaster. The other side of my online identity is as BBWJayne. I'm not tooting my own horn when I say that I am very close (wink wink, nudge nudge, know what I mean?) with some of the most influential people in the BBW/fat sex community. So, I do know what I am talking about.

FA's (Fat Admirers) are a diverse bunch. Not every guy that is into fat chicks is into the biggest of the big. In the BBW/FA community there are deffinitions of women of various weights.

The most commonly used terms as as follows:

Plumpers: These are women that the people in the BBW world actually consider to be thin but that most of you would classify as chubby. Over 150lbs buy under 200.

BBW and midsized BBW: I am grouping them together here for porn purposes but in the BBW world they are two different things. Midsized it between 200 and 250 and a 'normal' BBW is between 250 and 300. These are the average BBW.

Supersized BBW: There is always a running debate in the community as to where supersized starts but most agree to above 300 and then there is no limit. If you see pics of those really really big women..the ones that look like they might have mobility problems then they are supersized.

A couple other terms that are frequently found in the BBW/fat sex community:

Feeding:: A very very contreversial area of fat sex that does have a big ( no pun intended) following. Amongst people in the community there is very little middle ground on this. Either you love it or think its evil. I am personally on the evil side but regardless it is a HUGE fetish. What is it? Basicilly it is feeding (sometimes forced) your partner and making them fatter. You have pics of BBWs eating? This is what they are catering for. Those of us who don't like it think it is highly unhealthy to gain or lose weight quickly. Be happy with what you are..don't let anyone try to change you. Wether its to make you skinny or to make you fatter.

Feeder: The person doing the feeding. Usually Male.

Feedee:: Person, usually female, who is being fed.

Okay thats the glossary done.

The reason for the glossary is that if you don't understand your subject then how can you sell it? If you have content of a plumper don't use a banner with a supersized woman in it. Same thing if you have a supersized woman don't use a plumper.

A lot of guys that are into to the supersized women are ONLY into the supersized women. If it doesn't have a huge belly and a big bum they really don't want to know. A banner with a plumper would have the same effect as having a teen banner.

Another tip: Do not insult the women in your gallery. I appreciate that most of you don't find us fat women attractive. That's fine..you can't force an attraction.

However, remember that there are thousands and thousands of men that are ONLY attracted to big women. Its not a sickness its a preference. Don't belive me? I go to a small BBW dance club in London that gets hundreds of men each time and there is a club in NYC that gets thousands every week.

These men love these women. They do not want to see people calling them pigs and cows or calling them ugly. There is always the odd surfer that is looking at it as a freak show but they aren't the ones that are going to stay on and turn into rebills. They want to see that they are not the only ones..they want to be made to feel normal because for many of them its almost like comming out of the closet because of the reaction they get from their friends when they admit that fat women drive them crazy with lust.

I have had my best response when I gush over a model. In order to do this though you need to know what FA's like about BBW bodies. A brief and very gernalised run down.

Plumper men: They will call their women, cuddly or full figured. They most commonly like big boobs and bums. They want 'something to hold on to'.

BBW/Midsized men: These guys like boobs like every other BBW guy but they also like big bellies (personal note: thank GOD for these men!), heavy thighs and seriously big bums. Love handles are an asset not a fault! They like to hear about things bulging and about big natural tits. They also sometimes like to hear about how these are 'real women' and how they aren't skinny little teens like found everywhere else on the net.

Supersized men: They just love everything big. They want to know that this is as big as it gets. The sponsor has the biggest women on the net, etc. I can not stress how loyal men who are into supersized women are to their type of woman. They don't stray from that type very often. There seems to be a number of these type of men who are also a bit submissive so if that is thrown into the language of your site a bit it can really pay off. Not to heavy on the sub stuff unless you have the content to support it but it has worked well for me.

Before this turns into a novel (too late, I know). Here are my top quick tips:

1) Match the type of BBW in your content to your banners. Don't put a banner with a plumper in with a supersized.

2)If you have content of a BBW eating play up to the feeding fetish..find a banner with a BBW eating. I know cashquest's fat girls has a couple of women eating bananas and stuff.

3) Do not insult the model. Treat them like the goddesses the men think they are.

4) Take a look at your sponsors main page. Try to match the type of BBW on the main page to your content. Just like the banners..if you send traffic from a supersized gallery to a page that only has plumpers on it don't be surprized if it doesn't sell.

5) Learn the terminology and use it properly. Just like any other preference or fetish (don't get me started on the debate of if its a fetish or a preference..done that one to death with other people) If you use it wrong then it will show. BBW = Big beautifual woman. *NOT* Big Busty Women. It comes from a fashion magazine called BBW (Big Beautiful Woman) that was the first magazine of its type for large fashion.

6) BBW traffic will often bite on mature sponsors too. So, I usually add a text link at the end of my BBW galleries that leads to a mature sponsor..just incase they didn't like my BBW sponsors. Plumper traffic will often do the same with big tit sponsors.

7) If fat women really disgust you then don't do the sites and galleries. It will show.

Phew! Hope that helps someone.

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Amputate Your Head · 09-03-2001, 09:49 AM

WOW! Thanks Sjayne! That really does help ALOT... thank you very much for taking the time to sit and type all that out!

I have (well, my girlfriends cousin) is into really really big women, and in fact, just got married... she is super nice and one of the best people I could ever claim to know... and she is HUGE. Well into the 350 - 400 range. I never could understand how that does it for him, but that's cool.... I don't need to. They're both very happy...

I've got alot of this content and I'm pretty sure I can do something good with it even though it's not my bag.... but what I needed was the info you just gave... I'm very subjective. I treat everything I do here as work. Strictly. I don't sit here and play with myself over the hot model sites I do, and neither will I be totally disgusted when working with BBW content... to me it's all just work. At the end of the day, it's my girlfriend that I'm most interested in.

Thanks again for all the great info! I'll be putting it to use today! If you ever need help feel free to hit me on ICQ with any questions, and I'll do what I can.

Sjayne · 09-03-2001, 10:06 AM

No problem.

How about telling me how the heck to covert teen or asian traffic? zillions of content and crap at it cause its not my bag.

Glad it helped

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09-01-2001, 10:42 PM	#1
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	Phat Conversions Next week I'm gonna be putting up a gob of new sites revolving around fat girl content and was wondering if any of you have had any luck regarding conversions with this type of content...? It's personally not my favorite stuff to work with, but I got a ton of it (no pun intended) and need to do something with it... just hope it won't be a waste of time.

09-01-2001, 11:05 PM	#2
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	I talked to a guy a while ago about fat content and galleries and if I recall correctly, he said it helped with ratios when he added some medium sized women as well as to the extreme, just so if some people will get disturbed by the big big ladies, seeing the medium sized women may regain their attention. Hope that helps out.. Cheers Nysus Hosting - Starts @ $1.75/GB - As low as $1.27/GB icq: 129060301

09-01-2001, 11:12 PM	#3
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	I guess I'm confused on the upsell of this stuff... do ya upsell to good lookin' babes in the theory that they're totally disgusted with the fat chiks? Or on the other hand, if they're in there lookin' at fat chiks cuz they get off on that stuff, upselling to serious babes might totally turn them off and might be better to send them off to an even MORE extreme fat site?? This is a niche I am confused by, I guess because I'm not into that stuff at all....

09-03-2001, 08:06 AM	#4
BruceM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 4,084	I think this link will answer all your questions: http://www.asotd.com/twistedvideo/salsadancer.ram

09-03-2001, 08:12 AM	#5
Chris R Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 1,151	That really rose more questions than answered them for me Man, I guess I don't really get it either. I mean I can understand being for women with a little meat on her bones. But some of these women are shall we say impressive... I know that a lot of guys fantasize about women like their exgirlfriends or whatever - and I can understand some big boned women porn, but that I just don't get. ------------------ TopBucks.com - Converting at better than 1:130 David Lace Content - Highest Quality Teen Content ConversionCash.com - Make Money off your WebTV Traffic

09-03-2001, 09:34 AM	#6
Sjayne Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,182	Okay this is the one area I know most. Mostly cause I am a BBW and a BBW model (been in a few magazines and have my own site) as well as a webmaster. The other side of my online identity is as BBWJayne. I'm not tooting my own horn when I say that I am very close (wink wink, nudge nudge, know what I mean?) with some of the most influential people in the BBW/fat sex community. So, I do know what I am talking about. FA's (Fat Admirers) are a diverse bunch. Not every guy that is into fat chicks is into the biggest of the big. In the BBW/FA community there are deffinitions of women of various weights. The most commonly used terms as as follows: Plumpers: These are women that the people in the BBW world actually consider to be thin but that most of you would classify as chubby. Over 150lbs buy under 200. BBW and midsized BBW: I am grouping them together here for porn purposes but in the BBW world they are two different things. Midsized it between 200 and 250 and a 'normal' BBW is between 250 and 300. These are the average BBW. Supersized BBW: There is always a running debate in the community as to where supersized starts but most agree to above 300 and then there is no limit. If you see pics of those really really big women..the ones that look like they might have mobility problems then they are supersized. A couple other terms that are frequently found in the BBW/fat sex community: Feeding:: A very very contreversial area of fat sex that does have a big ( no pun intended) following. Amongst people in the community there is very little middle ground on this. Either you love it or think its evil. I am personally on the evil side but regardless it is a HUGE fetish. What is it? Basicilly it is feeding (sometimes forced) your partner and making them fatter. You have pics of BBWs eating? This is what they are catering for. Those of us who don't like it think it is highly unhealthy to gain or lose weight quickly. Be happy with what you are..don't let anyone try to change you. Wether its to make you skinny or to make you fatter. Feeder: The person doing the feeding. Usually Male. Feedee:: Person, usually female, who is being fed. Okay thats the glossary done. The reason for the glossary is that if you don't understand your subject then how can you sell it? If you have content of a plumper don't use a banner with a supersized woman in it. Same thing if you have a supersized woman don't use a plumper. A lot of guys that are into to the supersized women are ONLY into the supersized women. If it doesn't have a huge belly and a big bum they really don't want to know. A banner with a plumper would have the same effect as having a teen banner. Another tip: Do not insult the women in your gallery. I appreciate that most of you don't find us fat women attractive. That's fine..you can't force an attraction. However, remember that there are thousands and thousands of men that are ONLY attracted to big women. Its not a sickness its a preference. Don't belive me? I go to a small BBW dance club in London that gets hundreds of men each time and there is a club in NYC that gets thousands every week. These men love these women. They do not want to see people calling them pigs and cows or calling them ugly. There is always the odd surfer that is looking at it as a freak show but they aren't the ones that are going to stay on and turn into rebills. They want to see that they are not the only ones..they want to be made to feel normal because for many of them its almost like comming out of the closet because of the reaction they get from their friends when they admit that fat women drive them crazy with lust. I have had my best response when I gush over a model. In order to do this though you need to know what FA's like about BBW bodies. A brief and very gernalised run down. Plumper men: They will call their women, cuddly or full figured. They most commonly like big boobs and bums. They want 'something to hold on to'. BBW/Midsized men: These guys like boobs like every other BBW guy but they also like big bellies (personal note: thank GOD for these men!), heavy thighs and seriously big bums. Love handles are an asset not a fault! They like to hear about things bulging and about big natural tits. They also sometimes like to hear about how these are 'real women' and how they aren't skinny little teens like found everywhere else on the net. Supersized men: They just love everything big. They want to know that this is as big as it gets. The sponsor has the biggest women on the net, etc. I can not stress how loyal men who are into supersized women are to their type of woman. They don't stray from that type very often. There seems to be a number of these type of men who are also a bit submissive so if that is thrown into the language of your site a bit it can really pay off. Not to heavy on the sub stuff unless you have the content to support it but it has worked well for me. Before this turns into a novel (too late, I know). Here are my top quick tips: 1) Match the type of BBW in your content to your banners. Don't put a banner with a plumper in with a supersized. 2)If you have content of a BBW eating play up to the feeding fetish..find a banner with a BBW eating. I know cashquest's fat girls has a couple of women eating bananas and stuff. 3) Do not insult the model. Treat them like the goddesses the men think they are. 4) Take a look at your sponsors main page. Try to match the type of BBW on the main page to your content. Just like the banners..if you send traffic from a supersized gallery to a page that only has plumpers on it don't be surprized if it doesn't sell. 5) Learn the terminology and use it properly. Just like any other preference or fetish (don't get me started on the debate of if its a fetish or a preference..done that one to death with other people) If you use it wrong then it will show. BBW = Big beautifual woman. NOT Big Busty Women. It comes from a fashion magazine called BBW (Big Beautiful Woman) that was the first magazine of its type for large fashion. 6) BBW traffic will often bite on mature sponsors too. So, I usually add a text link at the end of my BBW galleries that leads to a mature sponsor..just incase they didn't like my BBW sponsors. Plumper traffic will often do the same with big tit sponsors. 7) If fat women really disgust you then don't do the sites and galleries. It will show. Phew! Hope that helps someone. ------------------ Sjayne's Quality Porn Links - Have Free Sites? Submit them to my new link list. XPhotography - Incredible Low Cost Content Source for Adult Webmasters!

09-03-2001, 09:49 AM	#7
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	WOW! Thanks Sjayne! That really does help ALOT... thank you very much for taking the time to sit and type all that out! I have (well, my girlfriends cousin) is into really really big women, and in fact, just got married... she is super nice and one of the best people I could ever claim to know... and she is HUGE. Well into the 350 - 400 range. I never could understand how that does it for him, but that's cool.... I don't need to. They're both very happy... I've got alot of this content and I'm pretty sure I can do something good with it even though it's not my bag.... but what I needed was the info you just gave... I'm very subjective. I treat everything I do here as work. Strictly. I don't sit here and play with myself over the hot model sites I do, and neither will I be totally disgusted when working with BBW content... to me it's all just work. At the end of the day, it's my girlfriend that I'm most interested in. Thanks again for all the great info! I'll be putting it to use today! If you ever need help feel free to hit me on ICQ with any questions, and I'll do what I can.

09-03-2001, 10:06 AM	#8
Sjayne Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,182	No problem. How about telling me how the heck to covert teen or asian traffic? zillions of content and crap at it cause its not my bag. Glad it helped ------------------ Sjayne's Quality Porn Links - Have Free Sites? Submit them to my new link list. XPhotography - Incredible Low Cost Content Source for Adult Webmasters!