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AdammairXXX · 09-01-2001, 02:00 PM

ok, some more questions. Thought I had a bookmark to a good AVS site but prolly deleted it (see earlier post about organizing).

1) Anyone have any preferences as to what AVS works best? worst?

2) Can I use several AVS systems on the same entry page. My thinking is that if someone already forked out 30 bucks the other day for one AVS and I use another they will just pass me by.

3) Do I even want an AVS? Im not putting up a pay site, but neither is it going to be a CJ pop-up hell. Im leaning twards a cheap/free AVS.

Thanks as always.

Oh yeah, I have noticed one thing from looking at every AVS I can find. About half of them claim to be the highest paying

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ez12 · 09-01-2001, 02:05 PM

the best to use is freenetpass, well so I think.

BruceM · 09-01-2001, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdammairXXX:
ok, some more questions. Thought I had a bookmark to a good AVS site but prolly deleted it (see earlier post about organizing).

1) Anyone have any preferences as to what AVS works best? worst?

2) Can I use several AVS systems on the same entry page. My thinking is that if someone already forked out 30 bucks the other day for one AVS and I use another they will just pass me by.

3) Do I even want an AVS? Im not putting up a pay site, but neither is it going to be a CJ pop-up hell. Im leaning twards a cheap/free AVS.

Thanks as always.

Oh yeah, I have noticed one thing from looking at every AVS I can find. About half of them claim to be the highest paying

1. I have had my best luck in the following order: CyberAge, FreeNetPass, Adult Check, Sex Key, NetVerifier, but I haven't worked with NetVerifier much, so maybe I'll do better in time.

2. Yes, this is known as "Non Exclusive". If you are Exclusive, that means you are only using 1 AVS for your site.

3. Sure you want an AVS, as well as TGP, free sites, etc. Do a bit of all of them!

Bruce

AdammairXXX · 09-01-2001, 02:14 PM

freenetpass isnt working for me, cant pull it up. Weird.

Anywho, Im leaning twards either proadult or premiumnetpass. Anyone have any input on either?

oh well, Ill keep trying freenetpass, I dont really have to make a decision now either way.

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AdammairXXX · 09-01-2001, 02:20 PM

Thanks Bruce, I had forgotten about SexKey.

Can anyone give me a link to a site that uses multiple AVS's? Not going to copy your site :P just want to see how it would be done. Only AVS sites Ive ever seen only appeared to have one AVS.

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stfuvt · 09-01-2001, 02:26 PM

I think the best avs system on the net are:

AdultCheck

CyberAge

ProAdult

plus they are veterans in the industry and offer the best services+plans.
I really like proadult and they pay on time.

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BruceM · 09-01-2001, 02:29 PM

Hmmm, I can't get through to FNP either right now...

You mention PremiumNetPass and ProAdult, but in your first message you said you were leaning towards a cheap/free AVS. Not sure about ProAdult, but with PNP, you need at least 300 pictures, so I don't know if that's what you were wanting!

Also with Gold/Platinum level sites, if you were thinking of going that route, usually have to be exclusive, although PNP openly accepts doorways, which could potentially get webmasters in trouble with the other AVS's.

I'll take a look for an example of a multi AVS site. Personally I always go exclusive, but I like the idea of doing a multiple AVS site, except that you make less for non-excluvise sites

Bruce

stfuvt · 09-01-2001, 02:35 PM

I think using an avs exclusive is better from using multi avs on that site because you mess the surfer...

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[This message has been edited by IvanParaskov (edited 09-01-2001).]

BruceM · 09-01-2001, 02:37 PM

Shit, this guy has 20 different AVS's!!!
http://www.frenumboy.com/smellpussy/

So that's basically all you do, but I've never really seen more than 5 or 6 Systems offered. If you offer more than 1 system remember it's non-exclusive.

Bruce

AdammairXXX · 09-01-2001, 02:42 PM

Ok, thats about how I figured you would do it, each AVS with its own login page. Im pretty much cut down to proadult and sexkey. Each has their own good points. May just do both.

Does anyone know anything about proadult's hosting? Im paying for the hosting on my main site but a good free host (especially one w/o banners like they advertise) would be nice.

Thanks for the quick response on this!

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stfuvt · 09-01-2001, 02:46 PM

Thats fuckin shit most of the times he won`t make any sales because I think half of the ppl will be already member on some avs am I right ?!

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[This message has been edited by IvanParaskov (edited 09-01-2001).]

BruceM · 09-01-2001, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IvanParaskov:
Thats fuckin shit most of the times he won`t make any sales because I think half of the ppl will be already member on some avs am I right ?!

Well Ivan, yes it is not very good if you want to sell the surfer an AVS membership, but if you want to upsell pay sites etc. inside the member's area, then it doesn't matter if most of them already are AVS members. So there are 2 ways to look at it.

But yes that site is going overboard - I noticed it hasn't been updated for quite a while - still has the old AgeCheck script and other scripts aren't even loading...

stfuvt · 09-01-2001, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BruceM:
Well Ivan, yes it is not very good if you want to sell the surfer an AVS membership, but if you want to upsell pay sites etc. inside the member's area, then it doesn't matter if most of them already are AVS members. So there are 2 ways to look at it.

But yes that site is going overboard - I noticed it hasn't been updated for quite a while - still has the old AgeCheck script and other scripts aren't even loading...

Yeah you are damn right!!!

Chris R · 09-01-2001, 04:05 PM

I have a couple questions as well - if someone could answer - I would appreciate it:

1) I assume when they say non exclusive they don't mean you can't promote another AVS at all. Is another doorway page enough - or could I get in trouble for this?

If that isn't enough - could I make one site (domain) for each AVS and just make different entrances to my different sites for that AVS on that domain?

2) I have been working on a bunch of projects - so I haven't had a chance to make many free sites - would either of these two be good enough to get into an AVS?
http://www.teenfix.com/
http://lesbians.isleofsex.com/

If so - which ones would you think would list them? Which ones would say "ha forget about it"?

3) I really don't want to put that much time into AVSs right now, but if I could convert my free sites over rather easily - I would do it. This is kinda related to the previous question, but which ones would you start out with/stay away from if that was your goal.

4) Oh and one more question - I have stories sites as well - I have heard AVSs might be good to sell - as these people can probably read and appreciate a good deal. Do you think that is true - and if so - which ones would you recommend selling?

Thanks for any responses

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[This message has been edited by Chris R (edited 09-01-2001).]

AdammairXXX · 09-01-2001, 04:58 PM

Chris,

The main reason Im thinking of using an AVS is because it kinda "pre-qualifies" my traffic (read that somewhere - didnt make it up myself) that way I know that the people using up my bandwidth have a credit card and arnt too scared to use it. Hopefully thatll mean that I can afford to put better content in, not that I will but at least I could afford to if I wasnt so cheap, hehe.

Anyhow Ive bookmarked ProAdult and SexKey and Ill prolly use both to some degree or other. Sexkey is a free ID, cant be too hard to sell and I make 10$ off of it too.

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allen135 · 09-01-2001, 06:45 PM

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Jack Dare · 09-01-2001, 07:39 PM

PremiumNetPass will make you lots of cash with recurring commissions, and they don't require you to update your sites regularly... instead you can just add a new site once a month.

FreeNetPass only requires 10 pics to make a site and returns tons of traffic. If you're looking for qualified surfers to upsell to paysites, this might be the way to go. Just build a shitload of FNP sites.

I like both, but you should submit to all of them if you're looking for qualified traffic to upsell

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Amputate Your Head · 09-01-2001, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BruceM:
Well Ivan, yes it is not very good if you want to sell the surfer an AVS membership, but if you want to upsell pay sites etc. inside the member's area, then it doesn't matter if most of them already are AVS members. So there are 2 ways to look at it.

I'm caught in the middle... trying to do both at the same time... sell the initial AVS membership AND upsell once inside... and I think my indecision is ultimately fucking me. I need professional help.

AdammairXXX · 09-02-2001, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by allen135:

<a href="http://www.beastpass.com/cgi-bin/wmsignup.cgi?referal=807&RevSharerID=wmbeastpass87 ">Beastpass</a></p>

on word: yuch. Really NOT my niche, not saying anything bad about those that are into it. Dont ask dont tell. Learned that in the Army and it applies well here I think.

Anyhow now I have premiumnetpass bookmarked also and when I get to the point where I have to decide Ill prolly do what I always do and use them all.

Thanks again.

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09-01-2001, 02:00 PM	#1
AdammairXXX Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City Posts: 32	AVS Questions ok, some more questions. Thought I had a bookmark to a good AVS site but prolly deleted it (see earlier post about organizing). 1) Anyone have any preferences as to what AVS works best? worst? 2) Can I use several AVS systems on the same entry page. My thinking is that if someone already forked out 30 bucks the other day for one AVS and I use another they will just pass me by. 3) Do I even want an AVS? Im not putting up a pay site, but neither is it going to be a CJ pop-up hell. Im leaning twards a cheap/free AVS. Thanks as always. Oh yeah, I have noticed one thing from looking at every AVS I can find. About half of them claim to be the highest paying ------------------ Adammair www.adammairxxx.com

09-01-2001, 02:05 PM	#2
ez12 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: 388 753 309 Posts: 2,438	the best to use is freenetpass, well so I think.

09-01-2001, 02:14 PM	#4
AdammairXXX Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City Posts: 32	freenetpass isnt working for me, cant pull it up. Weird. Anywho, Im leaning twards either proadult or premiumnetpass. Anyone have any input on either? oh well, Ill keep trying freenetpass, I dont really have to make a decision now either way. ------------------ Adammair www.adammairxxx.com

09-01-2001, 02:20 PM	#5
AdammairXXX Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City Posts: 32	Thanks Bruce, I had forgotten about SexKey. Can anyone give me a link to a site that uses multiple AVS's? Not going to copy your site :P just want to see how it would be done. Only AVS sites Ive ever seen only appeared to have one AVS. ------------------ Adammair www.adammairxxx.com

09-01-2001, 02:26 PM	#6
stfuvt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: my website Posts: 856	I think the best avs system on the net are: AdultCheck CyberAge ProAdult plus they are veterans in the industry and offer the best services+plans. I really like proadult and they pay on time. ------------------ <a href="https://www.proadult.com/avs/wmapply.cgi?2052">Proadult AVS For Webmasters</a></p>

09-01-2001, 02:29 PM	#7
BruceM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 4,084	Hmmm, I can't get through to FNP either right now... You mention PremiumNetPass and ProAdult, but in your first message you said you were leaning towards a cheap/free AVS. Not sure about ProAdult, but with PNP, you need at least 300 pictures, so I don't know if that's what you were wanting! Also with Gold/Platinum level sites, if you were thinking of going that route, usually have to be exclusive, although PNP openly accepts doorways, which could potentially get webmasters in trouble with the other AVS's. I'll take a look for an example of a multi AVS site. Personally I always go exclusive, but I like the idea of doing a multiple AVS site, except that you make less for non-excluvise sites Bruce

09-01-2001, 02:35 PM	#8
stfuvt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: my website Posts: 856	I think using an avs exclusive is better from using multi avs on that site because you mess the surfer... ------------------ <A HREF="http://www.proadult.com/avs/wmapply.cgi?2052" TARGET=_blank>Proadult AVS For Webmasters</A> [This message has been edited by IvanParaskov (edited 09-01-2001).]

09-01-2001, 02:37 PM	#9
BruceM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 4,084	Shit, this guy has 20 different AVS's!!! http://www.frenumboy.com/smellpussy/ So that's basically all you do, but I've never really seen more than 5 or 6 Systems offered. If you offer more than 1 system remember it's non-exclusive. Bruce

09-01-2001, 02:42 PM	#10
AdammairXXX Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City Posts: 32	Ok, thats about how I figured you would do it, each AVS with its own login page. Im pretty much cut down to proadult and sexkey. Each has their own good points. May just do both. Does anyone know anything about proadult's hosting? Im paying for the hosting on my main site but a good free host (especially one w/o banners like they advertise) would be nice. Thanks for the quick response on this! ------------------ Adammair www.adammairxxx.com

09-01-2001, 02:46 PM	#11
stfuvt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: my website Posts: 856	Thats fuckin shit most of the times he won`t make any sales because I think half of the ppl will be already member on some avs am I right ?! ------------------ <A HREF="http://www.proadult.com/avs/wmapply.cgi?2052" TARGET=_blank>Proadult AVS For Webmasters</A> [This message has been edited by IvanParaskov (edited 09-01-2001).]

09-01-2001, 04:05 PM	#14
Chris R Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 1,151	I have a couple questions as well - if someone could answer - I would appreciate it: 1) I assume when they say non exclusive they don't mean you can't promote another AVS at all. Is another doorway page enough - or could I get in trouble for this? If that isn't enough - could I make one site (domain) for each AVS and just make different entrances to my different sites for that AVS on that domain? 2) I have been working on a bunch of projects - so I haven't had a chance to make many free sites - would either of these two be good enough to get into an AVS? http://www.teenfix.com/ http://lesbians.isleofsex.com/ If so - which ones would you think would list them? Which ones would say "ha forget about it"? 3) I really don't want to put that much time into AVSs right now, but if I could convert my free sites over rather easily - I would do it. This is kinda related to the previous question, but which ones would you start out with/stay away from if that was your goal. 4) Oh and one more question - I have stories sites as well - I have heard AVSs might be good to sell - as these people can probably read and appreciate a good deal. Do you think that is true - and if so - which ones would you recommend selling? Thanks for any responses ------------------ TopBucks.com - Converting at better than 1:130 David Lace Content - Highest Quality Teen Content ConversionCash.com - Make Money off your WebTV Traffic [This message has been edited by Chris R (edited 09-01-2001).]

09-01-2001, 04:58 PM	#15
AdammairXXX Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City Posts: 32	Chris, The main reason Im thinking of using an AVS is because it kinda "pre-qualifies" my traffic (read that somewhere - didnt make it up myself) that way I know that the people using up my bandwidth have a credit card and arnt too scared to use it. Hopefully thatll mean that I can afford to put better content in, not that I will but at least I could afford to if I wasnt so cheap, hehe. Anyhow Ive bookmarked ProAdult and SexKey and Ill prolly use both to some degree or other. Sexkey is a free ID, cant be too hard to sell and I make 10$ off of it too. ------------------ Adammair www.adammairxxx.com

09-01-2001, 06:45 PM	#16
allen135 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 366	<a href="http://www.beastpass.com/cgi-bin/wmsignup.cgi?referal=807&RevSharerID=wmbeastpa ss87">Beastpass</a></p>

09-01-2001, 07:39 PM	#17
Jack Dare Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: In a Podcast Posts: 120	PremiumNetPass will make you lots of cash with recurring commissions, and they don't require you to update your sites regularly... instead you can just add a new site once a month. FreeNetPass only requires 10 pics to make a site and returns tons of traffic. If you're looking for qualified surfers to upsell to paysites, this might be the way to go. Just build a shitload of FNP sites. I like both, but you should submit to all of them if you're looking for qualified traffic to upsell ------------------ camguy StellarCash.com - Toplists that PAY YOU CA$H!