Chris Stewart is no longer the manager of CJ Bucks but he rocks - Details inside - GoFuckYourself.com

Rick Latona · 10-29-2004, 01:18 PM

Chris Stewart is no longer the manager of CJ Bucks. He?s a great guy and a pleasure to work with. Not only do I have no hard feelings but I actually recommend him to anyone who is looking for help running their program. He?s worked hard and always been loyal. He?s just another victim of the global outsourcing problem. We?ve given him a nice severance package and wish him all the best.

That said, all CJ Bucks operations have been outsourced to Panama. Please contact Paul Dinin ([email protected]) for all support and related webmaster issues. The company in Panama has hired many new people for CJ Bucks and the velocity of development is about to increase dramatically. Expect great things.

Whit Just Whit · 10-29-2004, 01:26 PM

Good luck Chris in your future endeavours.

And best of luck to CJBucks.

Whitney

Nader · 10-29-2004, 01:26 PM

That's a Bummer Chris Rocked!

Sad to hear man. I have room here for ya bud. Hit me up we can workout some details!

xxxjay · 10-29-2004, 01:27 PM

Damn - sorry to hear that chris. Eamil me [email protected] - we may have some work for you.

HollywoodChris · 10-29-2004, 01:31 PM

Rick and the CJCrew!!... It's been a pleasure working with all of you over the past year.

Anyone that wants to contact me , I can be reached at [email protected].

My cell number is 404-931-9373

Thanks,
Chris Stewart

--MARIAN-- · 10-29-2004, 01:38 PM

I'm really sorry to hear that.

Let me say that Chris is one of the most cool guys I have ever worked with.

Rick, you just lost a great guy and a superb paysite manager.

Chris, all the best from me

I'm sure that whatever you start doing will get golden

reynold · 10-29-2004, 01:43 PM

Chris, what a shame to see you go, you made it happen with me & CJbucks. I wish you all the best in your future endeavours.

Marian - funny to see you post here

Rick Latona · 10-29-2004, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by --MARIAN--

Rick, you just lost a great guy and a superb paysite manager.

We agree

Jman · 10-29-2004, 01:47 PM

Good luck to Chris, I am sure he will find a nice place to work at.

Hope all is well with you guys in Panama heard it was a great place to visit ;-)

ChandieGirl · 10-29-2004, 01:54 PM

Wow. I'm very surprised by this.

Chris, all the best to you! I'm sure you will soon
have people knocking down your door.

Good luck!

HollywoodChris · 10-29-2004, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NichePay_Nader
That's a Bummer Chris Rocked! Sad to hear man. I have room here for ya bud. Hit me up we can workout some details!

Great man.

I'll hit you up later today.

HollywoodChris · 10-29-2004, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by --MARIAN--
I'm really sorry to hear that.

Let me say that Chris is one of the most cool guys I have ever worked with.

Rick, you just lost a great guy and a superb paysite manager.

Chris, all the best from me I'm sure that whatever you start doing will get golden

Thank you Marian, You rock girl... You're a great friend and one of the best designers I've ever seen.

Cs

DavieVegas · 10-29-2004, 02:03 PM

chris is a great guy and i wish u all the luck man!

AbulletAway · 10-29-2004, 02:07 PM

Damn, I wasn't expecting that. Good luck in whatever you choose to do. Looks like you already have some great opportunities.

Bullet...

tranza · 10-29-2004, 02:08 PM

That's really sad. Chris was one of the best reps to work with. But I'm sure he'll find another job real fast!

Good luck bro...

wiggitywack · 10-29-2004, 02:08 PM

Best of luck Chris

why don't you just move down to Panama? Is that an option?

seems rather cutthroat to me

- wiggity

Paul Dinin · 10-29-2004, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by --MARIAN--
I'm really sorry to hear that.

Let me say that Chris is one of the most cool guys I have ever worked with.

Rick, you just lost a great guy and a superb paysite manager.

Chris, all the best from me I'm sure that whatever you start doing will get golden

Hey Marian,

Just wanted to let you know that I've got a large staff on hand to assist you and every CJBucks/AVO webmaster with anything you need. Be it custom design, hosting -- you name it. But I do want to get in touch with you, specifically, so we can make sure no balls get dropped during this transition. You are one of our most favorite affiliates, and I want to make sure everything goes smoothly. MY ICQ is 815-371-74, and email is [email protected]. If you need anything don't hesitate to ask.

--MARIAN-- · 10-29-2004, 02:31 PM

Thanks, Paul.

xclusive · 10-29-2004, 02:44 PM

sorry to hear that but it's a sign of the times vote Kerry and get chris a job...

HollywoodChris · 10-29-2004, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reynold
Chris, what a shame to see you go, you made it happen with me & CJbucks. I wish you all the best in your future endeavours.

Marian - funny to see you post here

Hey, thanks man

Stay in touch.

Cs

HollywoodChris · 10-29-2004, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
Damn - sorry to hear that chris. Eamil me [email protected] - we may have some work for you.

Jay, thanks man... Email sent...

Chris

pornguy · 10-29-2004, 02:53 PM

What all was outsourced??? Everything??

BRISK · 10-29-2004, 03:07 PM

Rick, what made you choose Panama as an outsource destination as opposed to other typical outsource countries?

Sarabi · 10-29-2004, 03:13 PM

Nice way to treat a "loyal, hard working, highly recommended" employee.

So you admit outsourcing is a "problem", yet you throw one of your best workers out the door and add to the problem? Don't know why anyone living in the US would want to continue to support cjbucks

bigdog · 10-29-2004, 03:34 PM

big props to cjbucks, at least your honest about the outsourcing

Tipsy · 10-29-2004, 03:53 PM

Good luck to all concerened and I just hope that the move doesn't come back and bite CJ in the ass. But then so many companies have to find that out the hard way it seems.

Jace · 10-29-2004, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sarabi
Nice way to treat a "loyal, hard working, highly recommended" employee.

So you admit outsourcing is a "problem", yet you throw one of your best workers out the door and add to the problem? Don't know why anyone living in the US would want to continue to support cjbucks

xxxjay · 10-29-2004, 06:23 PM

My cell # is 404-423-7791

Kimmykim · 10-29-2004, 06:27 PM

Nice to see you giving Chris a great recommendation, Rick, and explaining the reason for the split. Very professional

bigdog · 10-30-2004, 06:00 AM

Basic_man · 10-30-2004, 06:28 AM

Rick, you are the man !

loverboy · 10-30-2004, 07:24 AM

CJ Bucks still rocks

Rinaldo · 10-30-2004, 09:46 AM

Chris I wish you the best bud. Great guy to work with and talk to !

Alex · 10-30-2004, 09:55 AM

Am i the only one who finds this extremely horrible.

If the guy is such a great guy like you and everyone says.

Then why fire him and give him job to some cheap labor worker in panama who will work for half the price and make you more money...

Err wait. I just answered my own question. More money for you.

Alex From San Diego · 10-30-2004, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Nice to see you giving Chris a great recommendation, Rick, and explaining the reason for the split. Very professional

I'm not sure I concur with you on this one.

Libertine · 10-30-2004, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g
More money for you.

It's called business. You should try it some time.

Chris · 10-30-2004, 10:53 AM

out sourced all the jobs?

I rather keep my country employed even it cost me more than outsource it and put good people out of work

candyflip · 10-30-2004, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
He?s just another victim of the global outsourcing problem.

If you consider it a problem...why would you contribute to said problem?

Just curious.

Libertine · 10-30-2004, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JupZChris
out sourced all the jobs?

I rather keep my country employed even it cost me more than outsource it and put good people out of work

Outsourcing => your company remains competitive, and therefore continues to bring money into your country

Not outsourcing => your company loses it's edge, profits fall, other (foreign) companies eventually drive you out of business

There is no alternative.

onlymovies · 10-30-2004, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
Chris Stewart is no longer the manager of CJ Bucks. He?s worked hard and always been loyal. He?s just another victim of the global outsourcing problem.

The company in Panama has hired many new people for CJ Bucks

No offence, but that was tacky.

Alex · 10-30-2004, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
It's called business. You should try it some time.

I hope you arent a US voter.

Chris · 10-30-2004, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
Outsourcing => your company remains competitive, and therefore continues to bring money into your country

Not outsourcing => your company loses it's edge, profits fall, other (foreign) companies eventually drive you out of business

There is no alternative.

i dont know what company rick got for outsourcing but all my experence with outsourcing has been negative. Having someone work for you that doestn even understand this inudstry ( and yes i honestly think a office full of people from panama are not adult webmasters ) could make your biz competitive ?

If anyhting will just piss off webmasters

Kudos to rick for being honest on what is going on with his company and I know he will come out on top but we wil see how this outsource shit works

Libertine · 10-30-2004, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaliboy2g
I hope you arent a US voter.

Yeah, just imagine people who actually know about politics and economy voting in your elections

Argoz · 10-30-2004, 11:07 AM

outsourced to Panama.....?

Chris · 10-30-2004, 11:08 AM

I can see outsourcing maybe graphic designers as if they got the skills why not

but outsourcing a " managment " position and tech support and other aspects of your business that you deal with your clients on a personal level ...

i just dont understand that

Are you guys gonna have a booth at the show? I can just imagin your staff there

Libertine · 10-30-2004, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JupZChris
i dont know what company rick got for outsourcing but all my experence with outsourcing has been negative. Having someone work for you that doestn even understand this inudstry ( and yes i honestly think a office full of people from panama are not adult webmasters ) could make your biz competitive ?

If anyhting will just piss off webmasters

Kudos to rick for being honest on what is going on with his company and I know he will come out on top but we wil see how this outsource shit works

The effectiveness of outsourcing completely depends on the companies/people you do business with. There are good ones and bad ones. Many people who have had bad experiences with "outsourcing" have actually just done business with amateurish third rate companies. That isn't a good idea independent of country.

the Shemp · 10-30-2004, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
Chris Stewart is no longer the manager of CJ Bucks. He?s a great guy and a pleasure to work with. Not only do I have no hard feelings but I actually recommend him to anyone who is looking for help running their program. He?s worked hard and always been loyal. He?s just another victim of the global outsourcing problem. We?ve given him a nice severance package and wish him all the best.

That said, all CJ Bucks operations have been outsourced to Panama. Please contact Paul Dinin ([email protected]) for all support and related webmaster issues. The company in Panama has hired many new people for CJ Bucks and the velocity of development is about to increase dramatically. Expect great things.

a severence package and a positive reference is a good deal by adult internet standards..

Rick Latona · 11-01-2004, 07:00 AM

My business partner and best friend works in the office of this "outsourcing" company in Panama. Panama is in the eastern time zone and a closer flight from Atlanta than Las Vegas. This is hardly a situation where we are letting another company handle everything. If you guys think long and hard enough about this it will make sense.

Dalai lama · 11-01-2004, 07:01 AM

Goodluck Chris

justsexxx · 11-01-2004, 07:04 AM

Just curious, what does "severence package" mean?

Andre

10-29-2004, 01:18 PM	#1
Rick Latona The Best Ideas Start Here Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,037	Chris Stewart is no longer the manager of CJ Bucks but he rocks - Details inside Chris Stewart is no longer the manager of CJ Bucks. He?s a great guy and a pleasure to work with. Not only do I have no hard feelings but I actually recommend him to anyone who is looking for help running their program. He?s worked hard and always been loyal. He?s just another victim of the global outsourcing problem. We?ve given him a nice severance package and wish him all the best. That said, all CJ Bucks operations have been outsourced to Panama. Please contact Paul Dinin ([email protected]) for all support and related webmaster issues. The company in Panama has hired many new people for CJ Bucks and the velocity of development is about to increase dramatically. Expect great things. __________________ Regards, Rick Latona http://latonas.com Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

10-29-2004, 01:26 PM	#2
Whit Just Whit Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Under Justin Timberlake Posts: 333	Good luck Chris in your future endeavours. And best of luck to CJBucks. Whitney __________________ Whitney ICQ:258589210 AIM:Whitjustwhit

10-29-2004, 01:27 PM	#4
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	Damn - sorry to hear that chris. Eamil me [email protected] - we may have some work for you. __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

10-29-2004, 01:47 PM	#9
Jman Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan Posts: 22,790	Good luck to Chris, I am sure he will find a nice place to work at. Hope all is well with you guys in Panama heard it was a great place to visit ;-) __________________ email: [email protected] Best AI Affiliate Program Niche Dating Program PPS! FantasyXXX.AI Teams: jean.francois.laverdiere TG: @jman1216

10-29-2004, 01:54 PM	#10
ChandieGirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: So. Cal Posts: 1,421	Wow. I'm very surprised by this. Chris, all the best to you! I'm sure you will soon have people knocking down your door. Good luck! __________________ Partner Manager, FNCash.com http://www.fncash.com Making millions for webmasters since 2002! ICQ: 4945757 Skype: chandiegirl

10-29-2004, 01:26 PM	#3
Nader Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 5,086	That's a Bummer Chris Rocked! Sad to hear man. I have room here for ya bud. Hit me up we can workout some details!

10-29-2004, 01:31 PM	#5
HollywoodChris Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,282	Rick and the CJCrew!!... It's been a pleasure working with all of you over the past year. Anyone that wants to contact me , I can be reached at [email protected]. My cell number is 404-931-9373 Thanks, Chris Stewart

10-29-2004, 01:38 PM	#6
--MARIAN-- Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 298	I'm really sorry to hear that. Let me say that Chris is one of the most cool guys I have ever worked with. Rick, you just lost a great guy and a superb paysite manager. Chris, all the best from me I'm sure that whatever you start doing will get golden

10-29-2004, 01:43 PM	#7
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	Chris, what a shame to see you go, you made it happen with me & CJbucks. I wish you all the best in your future endeavours. Marian - funny to see you post here

10-29-2004, 02:03 PM	#13
DavieVegas Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 6,117	chris is a great guy and i wish u all the luck man! __________________ SKYPE#: davievegas - email: ddmedia702[at]mail[.]com

10-29-2004, 02:07 PM	#14
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10-29-2004, 02:08 PM	#15
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	That's really sad. Chris was one of the best reps to work with. But I'm sure he'll find another job real fast! Good luck bro... __________________ I'm just a newbie.

10-29-2004, 02:08 PM	#16
wiggitywack Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 561	Best of luck Chris why don't you just move down to Panama? Is that an option? seems rather cutthroat to me - wiggity

10-29-2004, 02:31 PM	#18
--MARIAN-- Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 298	Thanks, Paul.

10-29-2004, 02:44 PM	#19
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	sorry to hear that but it's a sign of the times vote Kerry and get chris a job... __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

10-29-2004, 02:53 PM	#22
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10-29-2004, 03:07 PM	#23
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Rick, what made you choose Panama as an outsource destination as opposed to other typical outsource countries? __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

10-29-2004, 03:13 PM	#24
Sarabi Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ft Laud, Fl Posts: 14	Nice way to treat a "loyal, hard working, highly recommended" employee. So you admit outsourcing is a "problem", yet you throw one of your best workers out the door and add to the problem? Don't know why anyone living in the US would want to continue to support cjbucks

10-29-2004, 03:34 PM	#25
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	big props to cjbucks, at least your honest about the outsourcing

10-29-2004, 03:53 PM	#26
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Good luck to all concerened and I just hope that the move doesn't come back and bite CJ in the ass. But then so many companies have to find that out the hard way it seems. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

10-29-2004, 06:23 PM	#28
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10-29-2004, 06:27 PM	#29
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Nice to see you giving Chris a great recommendation, Rick, and explaining the reason for the split. Very professional

10-30-2004, 06:00 AM	#30
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	bump

10-30-2004, 06:28 AM	#31
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10-30-2004, 07:24 AM	#32
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	CJ Bucks still rocks

10-30-2004, 09:46 AM	#33
Rinaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 5,086	Chris I wish you the best bud. Great guy to work with and talk to !

10-30-2004, 09:55 AM	#34
Alex So Fucking Banned (YEA!!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10,963	Am i the only one who finds this extremely horrible. If the guy is such a great guy like you and everyone says. Then why fire him and give him job to some cheap labor worker in panama who will work for half the price and make you more money... Err wait. I just answered my own question. More money for you. __________________ Care about me? Who? Me! Who?

10-30-2004, 10:53 AM	#37
Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	out sourced all the jobs? I rather keep my country employed even it cost me more than outsource it and put good people out of work __________________ [email protected]

10-30-2004, 11:07 AM	#44
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10-30-2004, 11:08 AM	#45
Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	I can see outsourcing maybe graphic designers as if they got the skills why not but outsourcing a " managment " position and tech support and other aspects of your business that you deal with your clients on a personal level ... i just dont understand that Are you guys gonna have a booth at the show? I can just imagin your staff there __________________ [email protected]

11-01-2004, 07:00 AM	#48
Rick Latona The Best Ideas Start Here Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,037	My business partner and best friend works in the office of this "outsourcing" company in Panama. Panama is in the eastern time zone and a closer flight from Atlanta than Las Vegas. This is hardly a situation where we are letting another company handle everything. If you guys think long and hard enough about this it will make sense. __________________ Regards, Rick Latona http://latonas.com Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

11-01-2004, 07:01 AM	#49
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11-01-2004, 07:04 AM	#50
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Just curious, what does "severence package" mean? Andre