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woodman 10-29-2004 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by stev0
The fact that Bush didn't know about it still makes him incompitent...

oh the irony

wvuatl 10-29-2004 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by maxdaname
Wait, wait, I have a premonition...
They will catch Bin Laden on November 1st!


:Graucho

http://www.trackingterrorism.com/Def...icle&artid=530

Osama Bin Laden Supposedly Spotted near Tibet
Source: Tribune | 2:39:39 PM EST


(RAW), Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI), intelligence units of the Border Security Force (BSF), Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) and Indian Army officers were present.

Indian officials believe Bin Laden may have reached Laddakh from the Pak administrated Kashmir where they think he may have been helped by some Jihadi or even sympathetic elements in the Pakistani forces.

Officials are also expressing concern over increased activity of foreign nationals along the LoC. Though there are no concrete reports on Pak Army?s support to these foreign nationals, Indian Home Ministry officials feel that some supporters in the ISI may be providing help. An ISI official, Ejaz Khan, has already been identified by the Indian security agencies for helping militants to cross over into the Indian territory.

Officials working with different security agencies said though the border fence along the LoC, which was expected to be completed this year, had raised hurdles for the infiltrators, militants manage to sneak into the Indian territory from across Poonch and Rajauri.

Meanwhile, five additional battalions of the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) and Border Security Force (BSF) have been called in to fortify all spots of tourist interest besides camps and bases of the Army. Multi-tier anti-infiltration arrangements have been made. The ITBP has also been put on full alert.

Security officials feel the militants have once again succeeded in scaring away outsiders from the Valley, and foreign nationals? presence on the other side of Kashmir could aim at fortifying the bases of militants to facilitate them to launch fresh attacks on army establishments and other sensitive targets.

Sources in the Home Ministry say Indian Border Security Force deployed in the Valley had intercepted Jihadi leader Syed Salahuddin?s message and a speech a few days back which revealed that various militant outfits were gearing up to launch major attacks before the snow starts falling. They have also been directed to intensify their activities in Jammu region, Doda, Bhadrawah and Kishtwar.

Sources told this correspondent that Salahuddin?s speeches were being transmitted on wireless sets available with the militants. This information was immediately passed on to all concerned to make pre-emptive arrangements.

The length of taped speeches transmitted on wireless is said to be 10-15 minutes, and these broadcasts were being repeated several times a day. Militants keep changing the frequencies to dodge Indian army interceptors.

The message called for carrying out attacks on security causes as well as soft civilian targets hampering economic activity and tourism in Kashmir.




Related links:
www.satribune.com/archives/oct04/P1_arun.htm

hagbard 10-29-2004 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Chichio
I don't see much of a ditch to dig out of and I'm skeptical about this revelation. It is Fox News after all
Thats right! CBS news for instance has shown more journalistic integrity lately. Or perhaps ABC who were planning on sitting on this whole explosives thing until the night before the election. Perhaps it was ABC's sitting on the latest terror vid and not releasing it all to the FBI upfront that was sound thinking. Ya, Fox are a bunch of FUCKERS man.

fucking lemmings.

Centurion 10-29-2004 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by wvuatl
All media bias aside... Kerry has been saying Bush was incompetent because he didn?t find and destroy these weapons? now it looks like they were found and destroyed?

That will hurt Kerry for sure.


It could be a "reverse" October surprise?

Dream on dreamer!

1) It took over FIVE days for SOMEONE to come forward and say "I know what happened to the explosives! FIVE DAYS! That is not the sign of a President who is in control of the facts & the war in Iraq!

2) And WHO came forward..A "major" saying "oh yeah..we destroyed it." ANY film evidence to support this? NO Any other major office to re-confirm this? NO!

Again..another desperate gamble at lying by Bush to cover up the facts.

Centurion 10-29-2004 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by hottoddy
The headline stories a few days before the election will now read something like this:

Kerry Campaign Asserts False Allegations Against Bush In Final Days Before Election.

How does that come across?

:1orglaugh

Who's going to post it, ESPECIALLY since it's NOT been proven false? In fact, here in Seattle was one of the newsmen that went INTO the bunkers on 4/18/04 AFTER the fall of Baghdad, and videotapes tons of munitions in those bunkers!


http://www.king5.com/topstories/stor...J.4c4495f.html

Centurion 10-29-2004 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by Dead13
You should see the commercials in New York against Sen. Shumer.

All they say is that he is "Liberal and supports John Kerry. How can anyone vote for a Liberal?"

And they say liberal with a snarly voice like some 3rd grader picking on you.

Its very funny, I think the guy is losing in the polls by like 20% or something.

How many will vote for a liberal this year? Most like more than 50% of the american people this election.
Shumer..losing in the polls? Man..either you're an out & out liar or so dilussional you don't know fact from fiction.

CET 10-29-2004 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by TheMob
oh if fox runs it, it must be true. especially so close to the elections.
FOX may not be fair and balanced, but they're certainly not liars either. I consider them like CNN or MSNBC, not even close to fair and balanced, but a good enough source to use when considering a story.

CET 10-29-2004 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
Dream on dreamer!

1) It took over FIVE days for SOMEONE to come forward and say "I know what happened to the explosives! FIVE DAYS! That is not the sign of a President who is in control of the facts & the war in Iraq!

2) And WHO came forward..A "major" saying "oh yeah..we destroyed it." ANY film evidence to support this? NO Any other major office to re-confirm this? NO!

Again..another desperate gamble at lying by Bush to cover up the facts.

Someone didn't read the whole thread. There was an MSNBC link to the story that said that the demolition was filmed.

Hey You . . . I Know You! 10-29-2004 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by CET
FOX may not be fair and balanced, but they're certainly not liars either. I consider them like CNN or MSNBC, not even close to fair and balanced, but a good enough source to use when considering a story.

Now I?m depressed.
I always imagined that people were a lot smarter than this.

doober 10-29-2004 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
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Wake up you dumb fuckers.


see sig

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codymc12 10-29-2004 01:02 PM

I was mildly concerned, but then I read the Fox story.

It's hardly definitive, and it remains a 'he said he said' category topic, which means it's political use on both sides will probably still be fruitful.

The article says that so many different things have been stated re: the munitions. "They were probably looted before we got there" "We destroyed them" "They weren't secured and were looted afterwards" or my favorite "The Russians helped the IAEA get them out".

This new info isn't likely to sway anyone this close to the election. It's not definitive enough.

MickeyG 10-29-2004 01:10 PM

Video evidence emerged Thursday night that potentially proves U.S. troops were at the Iraqi military base where tons of high explosives went missing -- before the weapons disappeared.

A Minnesota television crew embedded with U.S. 101st Airborne Division in Iraq recorded the video at the al-Qaqaa munitions base in April 18, 2003, nine days after the fall of Saddam Hussein.

Rebroadcast by ABC News, the footage shows troops inspecting what appear to be the now-missing explosives, still in barrels stamped with International Atomic Energy Agency markings.

In an interview with the New York Times on Friday, former U.S. weapons inspector David Kay said the video appears to be authentic.

"The photographs are consistent with what I know of al-Qaqaa," Kay told the paper. "The damning thing is the seals. The Iraqis didn't use seals on anything. So I'm absolutely sure that's an IAEA seal."

CET 10-29-2004 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by codymc12
I was mildly concerned, but then I read the Fox story.

It's hardly definitive, and it remains a 'he said he said' category topic, which means it's political use on both sides will probably still be fruitful.

The article says that so many different things have been stated re: the munitions. "They were probably looted before we got there" "We destroyed them" "They weren't secured and were looted afterwards" or my favorite "The Russians helped the IAEA get them out".

This new info isn't likely to sway anyone this close to the election. It's not definitive enough.

Read the MSNBC link, it says the demolition was FILMED.

codymc12 10-29-2004 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Read the MSNBC link, it says the demolition was FILMED.
The msnbc headline:

"Pentagon: Some explosives possibly destroyed"

'Some' and 'Possible'

He said-he said. Not definitive.

Mr.Fiction 10-29-2004 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dead13
You should see the commercials in New York against Sen. Shumer.

All they say is that he is "Liberal and supports John Kerry. How can anyone vote for a Liberal?"

And they say liberal with a snarly voice like some 3rd grader picking on you.

Its very funny, I think the guy is losing in the polls by like 20% or something.

Sen. Charles Schumer holds an overwhelming 72-to-16 percent lead over little-known Republican challenger Howard Mills, a new poll yesterday showed.

The Marist College survey found the Democratic incumbent carrying all voting blocs in all regions of the state. Even Republicans favored him over the GOP challenger, 46 to 38 percent.

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/31294.htm

MickeyG 10-29-2004 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by codymc12
The msnbc headline:

"Pentagon: Some explosives possibly destroyed"

'Some' and 'Possible'

He said-he said. Not definitive.

and the Major admits to not seeing the seals. How can they claim to have destroyed something they never saw..

And before someone comes back saying they were never there, go read my post above about the video evidence of the munitions being there 7 or 8 days later with U.S. troops standing by.

tranza 10-29-2004 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by TheMob
oh if fox runs it, it must be true. especially so close to the elections.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

jimmyf 10-29-2004 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by wvuatl
the bottom line of this whole story is this:

FUCK THE UN

FUCK THE IAEA

:thumbsup yep :thumbsup they are unless and not 2 be trusted.

Dead13 10-29-2004 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
How many will vote for a liberal this year? Most like more than 50% of the american people this election.
Shumer..losing in the polls? Man..either you're an out & out liar or so dilussional you don't know fact from fiction.

Learn to read!

I said Shumer is kicking the guys ass!!!

jimmyf 10-29-2004 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
Notice how Media is tying the word "Liberal" and terms like "Minority"with
Jews, Mexicans and Blacks...

Liberals, Jews, Mexicans, Blacks...
Liberals, Jews, Mexicans, Blacks...Liberals, Jews, Mexicans, Blacks...
Liberals, Jews, Mexicans, Blacks...
Liberals, Jews, Mexicans, Blacks...
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Aint that a little scary?
Wake up you dumb fuckers.


left me out, I'm a

TexCan:Graucho

Dead13 10-29-2004 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Sen. Charles Schumer holds an overwhelming 72-to-16 percent lead over little-known Republican challenger Howard Mills, a new poll yesterday showed.

The Marist College survey found the Democratic incumbent carrying all voting blocs in all regions of the state. Even Republicans favored him over the GOP challenger, 46 to 38 percent.

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/31294.htm

Again, that is exactly what I fucking said, Shumer is kicking the guys ass.

HINT!!!!! I am a BIG FUCKING LIBERAL and I was pointing out how stupid it was for Republicans to act like Liberal is a bad word.

jimmyf 10-29-2004 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by Dead13


HINT!!!!! I am a BIG FUCKING LIBERAL and I was pointing out how stupid it was for Republicans to act like Liberal is a bad word.

It's not a bad word ?

Fuck got's 2 get a new Webster's .

Centurion 10-29-2004 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Read the MSNBC link, it says the demolition was FILMED.
Read the link I provided that showed the weapons STILL intact.
In fact, Pentagon officials are now saying the munitions actually destroyed were only about 3% of the total!

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stor...J.4c4495f.html


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