2257 - Free Speech Coalition - Update

[Snake Doctor]

The thread I started Friday on this won't pull up so I'm starting a new one to keep you guys updated.

For those of you who don't know the Free Speech Coalition is putting together a defense fund to fight the new 2257 regulations in court.
You can read about that here
http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/

We ALL need to get behind them and give them our financial support.

I personally have decided to boycott any sponsor who doesn't make a contribution to the defense fund, and I urge the rest of you to join me.

To make a donation send your check to:
Free Speech Coalition
PO BOX 10480
Canoga Park, CA 91309

Write "2257 defense fund" on your check so they'll know what the money is for.

I spoke with them this morning and they're working on setting up paypal and credit card donations to make it easier for you to contribute.

This affects us all, sponsors, affiliates, hosting companies, and content providers. We all need to step up here and do the right thing.

[Snake Doctor]

Also, since the thread I started Friday is apparently gone, I'll repost this.

I'd like to see affiliate programs, content providers, hosting companies etc step up to the plate and run promotions to raise money for the defense fund.

An affiliate program could run a bonus payout day with the bonus money being a contribution to the FSC in the affiliates name.
Alot of your affiliates are barely making ends meet (especially the ones waiting for Ibill checks)
They may not be able to donate cash, but they can send you their traffic to do their part to donate to the cause.

Also all of us need to purchase content, hosting, design work, etc. on a regular basis so I for one would rather purchase these things from someone who will give a % of my purchase to the defense fund.

In the other thread a handful of companies already offered to give a % of their sales to the FSC.....if you were one of them please re-post your promotion here (I can't remember them all)

Its pucker time people.....let's give our attorneys the resources they need to send the AG back to washington with his tail between his legs.

[ElvisManson]

Hey Lenny,

You are right about everyone needing to contribute.

Python is a major supporter of FSC both financially and actively. We email webmasters regularly with FSC updates and support all their events. One our partners, Greg Dumas, has previously served on the board and now serves in a more liason function and regularly communicates with the board. We also host all their websites and help manage all their technical needs. Moreoever, we support what they do and are willing to be partners with whatever battle they are willing wage.

Who else is going to step up to the plate financially?

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by ElvisManson
Hey Lenny,

You are right about everyone needing to contribute.

Python is a major supporter of FSC both financially and actively. We email webmasters regularly with FSC updates and support all their events. One our partners, Greg Dumas, has previously served on the board and now serves in a more liason function and regularly communicates with the board. We also host all their websites and help manage all their technical needs. Moreoever, we support what they do and are willing to be partners with whatever battle they are willing wage.

Who else is going to step up to the plate financially?

That's great to hear Elvis.
Python and Dollarmachine are top notch programs....and this is just one more reason to support them with your traffic.

[More Booze]

[pussyluver]

Add epassporte to paypal.

[pussyluver]

Let's keep this thread bumped near the top. Damn important!

[SteveLightspeed]

Originally posted by ElvisManson
Hey Lenny,

You are right about everyone needing to contribute.

Who else is going to step up to the plate financially?

Lightspeedcash has never backed down from a fight, especially one so important to the entire industry. We appreciate the FSC's work, and Python's contributions, and we are happy to give $5000 to the fight against the new 2257.

Steve Lightspeed

[ElvisManson]

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Lightspeedcash has never backed down from a fight, especially one so important to the entire industry. We appreciate the FSC's work, and Python's contributions, and we are happy to give $5000 to the fight against the new 2257.

Steve Lightspeed

As always Steve, You are one hell of a classy guy!!!

[TheSenator]

Yes, please add PayPal r EpassPorte.

This shit is getting rediculous.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Lightspeedcash has never backed down from a fight, especially one so important to the entire industry. We appreciate the FSC's work, and Python's contributions, and we are happy to give $5000 to the fight against the new 2257.

Steve Lightspeed

That's great news Steve. Glad to hear it

I'll be making up a list soon of everyone who's offered their support so webmasters will know where to send their traffic and spend their money.

As for epassporte and paypal they're working on it, I told them this morning they'd get alot more contributions if they set those up and they assured me they'd get on it.
I'll post the info here as soon as I get it.

[diesel]

I will wait for paypal ... Its a mess to send check from Europe ..

[pussyluver]

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Lightspeedcash has never backed down from a fight, especially one so important to the entire industry. We appreciate the FSC's work, and Python's contributions, and we are happy to give $5000 to the fight against the new 2257.

Steve Lightspeed

Way to go Steve

Let's support the sponsors that support the industry!

[JenC]

As mentioned in the other thread, PhatBucks.com is donating $1 from every sale in the month of November to the FSC Defense Fund. All you have to do it you want to donate is promote PhatBucks and we'll send $1 of every sale out of our pockets!

This court case affects everyone in this industry, if you don't have the $$ to donate, here's your chance to just promote and donate!

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In unrelated news:

ContentShopper is offering a 3 free month button listing on ContentShopper.com for anyone who donates $100 or more. This is great for anyone who has an affiliate program, content providers, some sort of service to offer or even just a webmaster with their referral code! ContentShopper gets hundreds of webmaster views A DAY so get your product offered.

[Furious_Male]

Please let us know when Epassporte and/or Paypal is set up. I will be sure to send a donation.

[ElvisManson]

bump for a good cause.

[CET]

You can thank senators Diane Feinstein and John McCain for writing that attrocity to free speech, congress for passing it, the president for signing it and the supreme court for ruling it to be constitutional.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by CET
You can thank senators Diane Feinstein and John McCain for writing that attrocity to free speech, congress for passing it, the president for signing it and the supreme court for ruling it to be constitutional.

WTF are you talking about????

We're talking about regulations that were written by the Justice Department.

[CET]

Originally posted by Lenny2
WTF are you talking about????

We're talking about regulations that were written by the Justice Department.

I thought 2257's were a loophole for the Campaign Finance Reform law. My bad. Still, I'll give a bump for the cause of free speech, it's the corner stone of freedom.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by CET
I thought 2257's were a loophole for the Campaign Finance Reform law. My bad. Still, I'll give a bump for the cause of free speech, it's the corner stone of freedom.

HAH!!!
No, those are 527's...and they have nothing to do with our industry.

We're talking about the rules regarding record keeping for porn producers of model id's and releases.

[baddog]

Originally posted by CET
You can thank senators Diane Feinstein and John McCain for writing that attrocity to free speech, congress for passing it, the president for signing it and the supreme court for ruling it to be constitutional.

jeez . . . you are a funny person

[baddog]

Anyway, back on topic

ContentShopper will give 3 months free ad space to anyone that contributes $100 or more to the FSC.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by baddog
Anyway, back on topic

ContentShopper will give 3 months free ad space to anyone that contributes $100 or more to the FSC.

Hey you forgot to mention the free anal sex with baddog!!!!

[baddog]

Originally posted by Lenny2
Hey you forgot to mention the free anal sex with baddog!!!!

We had to pull that offer until we find out what happens with the 2257 regs, as I am going to want to use it for POV content if it happens

[abyss_al]

you guys wanna throw a nice party in the LA area to raise some money for it? i have some nice ideas

[some_idiot]

Originally posted by Lenny2

I personally have decided to boycott any sponsor who doesn't make a contribution to the defense fund, and I urge the rest of you to join me.

While I agree with you in princple and have already made my
donation....

Your short sightedness and arrogance as an United States of American
seems to suggest that the only law in the world is yours.

There *IS* a very viable and profitable internet base outside
the U.S.A.

Just needed to dig ya

[abyss_al]

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Lightspeedcash has never backed down from a fight, especially one so important to the entire industry. We appreciate the FSC's work, and Python's contributions, and we are happy to give $5000 to the fight against the new 2257.

Steve Lightspeed

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by some_idiot
While I agree with you in princple and have already made my
donation....

Your short sightedness and arrogance as an United States of American
seems to suggest that the only law in the world is yours.

There *IS* a very viable and profitable internet base outside
the U.S.A.

Just needed to dig ya

You know your nick is appropriate. (some_idiot)
You should use that donation money to buy yourself a fucking clue.

No one has even implied that the only law in the world is ours.....but if US webmasters go out of business, or worse, get thrown in jail, it will be a severe blow to the entire industry regardless of what country you live in.

[modF]

I was going to post this in the original thread, but was unable to find it.


MonkeyGreen.com will be giving one dollar per sale from now until the Vegas show to the FSC. This includes the two new sites which will be launched prior to the show.


In addition, I will have the girls from the above mentioned new sites promoting in Vegas. Their sites will be on the front of the postcards which will be handed out and the link below will be printed on the back.


http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/i...lor_150dpi.gif


I have tried to contact them on Friday about a PSD, but have not heard anything back just yet. As soon as I get that from them, Rob from AcidFlyers.com will be printing them up.

[jact]

Originally posted by modF
I was going to post this in the original thread, but was unable to find it.


MonkeyGreen.com will be giving one dollar per sale from now until the Vegas show to the FSC. This includes the two new sites which will be launched prior to the show.


In addition, I will have the girls from the above mentioned new sites promoting in Vegas. Their sites will be on the front of the postcards which will be handed out and the link below will be printed on the back.


http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/i...lor_150dpi.gif


I have tried to contact them on Friday about a PSD, but have not heard anything back just yet. As soon as I get that from them, Rob from AcidFlyers.com will be printing them up.

[some_idiot]

Originally posted by Lenny2

No one has even implied that the only law in the world is ours.....but if US webmasters go out of business, or worse, get thrown in jail, it will be a severe blow to the entire industry regardless of what country you live in.

Uhmm, ok. Example please of how 12-15% of the internet
population deals a severe blow to the rest of the world?
(don't even give the VISA argument, cause we both know,
they can and will process outside the U.S.A.)

I've got enough sites that don't use anything related to the U.S.A.
that my mortgage is paid at the end of the month.

2257 to me right now is nothing more than an annoyance as I
deal with people that over react to it. Let's see what your
government is going to even do with before we run around
yelling the sky is falling yet again.

[Slick]

Is it good to buy a membership to the coalition or best just to donate ???

[baddog]

b-bump

[Ray@TastyDollars]

Originally posted by Lenny2
The thread I started Friday on this won't pull up so I'm starting a new one to keep you guys updated.

For those of you who don't know the Free Speech Coalition is putting together a defense fund to fight the new 2257 regulations in court.
You can read about that here
http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/

We ALL need to get behind them and give them our financial support.

I personally have decided to boycott any sponsor who doesn't make a contribution to the defense fund, and I urge the rest of you to join me.

To make a donation send your check to:
Free Speech Coalition
PO BOX 10480
Canoga Park, CA 91309

Write "2257 defense fund" on your check so they'll know what the money is for.

I spoke with them this morning and they're working on setting up paypal and credit card donations to make it easier for you to contribute.

This affects us all, sponsors, affiliates, hosting companies, and content providers. We all need to step up here and do the right thing.

Sending a Check this week for sure. Good post man!

[xxxjay]

I have Jeffery Douglas on retainer and have consulted with him already. Our industry is in good hands. Everyone should do what they can to support the FSC.

[Techie Media]

Lenny, as I posted in the other threads you started on this, Techie Media will be making a nice donation as well. This is a serious issue that affects everyone in the biz, including hosts. Count on us

[Redrob]

We do want to keep "master" in webmaster. To do so we must be "masters" of our own destiny.

The DOJ is interested in controlling the CONTENT. The DOJ doesn't care if the content is on a DVD, website, photo, or VHS tape. It is all about the content and the 2257 regs are about controlling and eliminating the access of Americans to that content and putting controllers of the content in federal prison for a couple of years if they don't have their paperwork PERFECT.

The proposed 2257 regs affect everybody from the biggest DVD porn mogul to "Joe GeeK" working his hosted porn site after work from his livingroom. The regs affect us all.

To protect ourselves, we should do the following in my opinion:

1. Make doubly-damn sure you have no underage content on anything under your control. If you do, just shoot yourself now and save us all a lot of grief.

2. Make sure minors cannot access your website. If they can, you should paint a really a BIG target on your t-shirt.

3. Deal with reputable content sources that have the 2257 information documented for your websites. Having that documentation in your grubby little fist makes you closer to bulletproof. Having foreign content with documentation in Western Moldovia isn't going to help you. Paint another target on back of t-shirt and make it dayglow.

4. Call, write, email, telegraph or stop by in person the Free Speech Coalition and JOIN!! Do it today, do it now, and do it fast.

"Why should I join?" you ask.

One really big reason........When the DOJ issues the new revised regulations, they can begin enforcing the guidelines IMMEDIATELY.
This means you can be audited the same day if they really want your ass.

When the regs are issued, as soon as possible, the Free Speech Coalition is going to challenge the regs in Federal Court. When they do, the FSC will ask for an injunction from enforcement which they will probably receive. The injunction from enforcement will only protect those people with the foresight to be MEMBERS of FSC.

Hopefully, the DOJ will not go after webmasters who are not members of FSC; but, your protection is not guaranteed unless you are a member of FSC.

4. Call your 1st Amendment attorney and see how much it would cost to file your own lawsuit in Federal Court and compare it with the cost of joining FSC. I'm sure you'll see the FSC is the REAL bargain of the day.


Free Speech Coalition

I hope this has been helpful. Good Luck and Godspeed to all.

[baddog]

does a bump help?

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by some_idiot
Uhmm, ok. Example please of how 12-15% of the internet
population deals a severe blow to the rest of the world?
(don't even give the VISA argument, cause we both know,
they can and will process outside the U.S.A.)

I've got enough sites that don't use anything related to the U.S.A.
that my mortgage is paid at the end of the month.

2257 to me right now is nothing more than an annoyance as I
deal with people that over react to it. Let's see what your
government is going to even do with before we run around
yelling the sky is falling yet again.

You are severely uninformed. I'm not even going to bother responding to you anymore........arguing with idiots is like wrestling with a pig.
You get muddy and the pig likes it.

If you don't think this is a big deal then fine, ignore us.
Don't, however try to make others think it isn't a big deal because its a HUGE deal, your anti-american- small guy- penis envy complex notwithstanding.

[Kevin2]

Can you post their bank details with a swift code so I can do a wire from Australia? I know it doesn't affect me over here but we all need to stand together.

[diesel]

Lenny2, did you manage to get their paypal details or at least wire details?

[modF]

bump for Lenny to see.

[xxxjay]

Go FSC