Which countries do not generate sales? - GoFuckYourself.com

dcortez · 10-28-2004, 04:44 AM

Hi,

I'd like to do an inventory of which countries are almost always bandwidth drains and do not generate substantial sales.

For example, I get a lot of traffic from china but has anyone actually converted traffic from china to sales? With the criminal penalties related to online adult entertainment and the generally oppressive environment, can one ever make a sale to china?

Rather than listing which countries do best (this varies with your audience), I'd like to focus on the 'guaranteed' no-sale countries and also those which regional traffic you have found to be more malicious than worthwhile.

Thanks,
-Dino

latinasojourn · 10-28-2004, 08:55 AM

you can basically kiss off china, korea, PI, indonesia, most of eastern europe, africa, south america.

good:

usa, western europe, aus, japan, canada

choose your host wisely, with high speed and low hops to these regions.

hint: webair

Girsh · 10-28-2004, 09:34 AM

Japan?
How can I convert Japan traffic?

eroswebmaster · 10-28-2004, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by Girsh
Japan?
How can I convert Japan traffic?

Missionaries.

eisbaer · 10-28-2004, 09:36 AM

we convert on Japan Traffic about 1:50 :-)

Basic_man · 10-28-2004, 09:40 AM

Ban all US traffic and send it to teen-yard.com

cocky · 10-28-2004, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by latinasojourn
you can basically kiss off china, korea, PI, indonesia, most of eastern europe, africa, south america.

good:

usa, western europe, aus, japan, canada

choose your host wisely, with high speed and low hops to these regions.

hint: webair

agree, except for aus

dodger21 · 10-28-2004, 10:21 AM

Aus is not bad. Aus converts ok for us.

Methodcash Rick · 10-28-2004, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Girsh
Japan?
How can I convert Japan traffic?

Send it to my sites.. We convert the Japanese like crazy..

Same with Korean traffic, but CHinese traffic is by far the worst on the planet, they just TRY to hotlink to our FHG's..

TheSaint · 10-28-2004, 10:47 AM

With hosting so cheap these days I don't want to block anybody. I have converted, but at very low rates:

Saudia Arabia
South Korea
Isreael
Poland

and many others. In the years to come I think after the U.S. and Western Europe the rest of the world will discover porn too.

Anothers · 10-28-2004, 11:31 AM

the problem with east europe countries is that there is small amount of people with credit cards that will pay for online porn

an example

for polish porn traffic I can bet that about 60% (or even more) of surfers are 20 years old or younger - so probably no credit card at all

TheSaint · 10-28-2004, 11:58 AM

That is true but it seems to me like its growing. Still only a signup ot two a month from eastern europe, but last year was none.

tranza · 10-28-2004, 12:01 PM

I know for a fact the Brazilian traffic doesn't convert.

body · 10-28-2004, 12:03 PM

never got a sale from iraq

beergood · 10-28-2004, 12:03 PM

I would drop anything Asian period. That should drop most of the drain due to regional concerns.

Project-Shadow · 10-28-2004, 12:03 PM

Chinese traffic is the absolute worst traffic known to man.. it's worse than Chinese hitbot traffic! [cause hitbots dont fucking hotlink everything in site]

10-28-2004, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Project-Shadow
Chinese traffic is the absolute worst traffic known to man.. it's worse than Chinese hitbot traffic! [cause hitbots dont fucking hotlink everything in site]

beergood · 10-28-2004, 12:06 PM

Yeah. Anything chinese fucking sucks. I got a word list together for various terms(melayu, bogel, etc) and do global search and remove on all generated pages for them.

strobi · 10-28-2004, 01:04 PM

Those chinese people have gigantic amount of boards around. Some of them must be huugeeeeeee. got some content hotlinked -> burned mutch more than the hun :-(

xclusive · 10-28-2004, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tranza
I know for a fact the Brazilian traffic doesn't convert.

It does for Tranny sites I had some guy name Tranza get a lifetime membership...

dcortez · 10-28-2004, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Girsh
Japan?
How can I convert Japan traffic?

Thanks everyone for the great feedback!

I sold quite a memberships to Japan.

Even a few to South Korea.

Verotel offers Asian Card which is what South Korea uses.

I agree that most eastern blocks are a complete writeoff. Excluding Japan and South Korea, the rest of asia is a waste of bandwidth.

For my themes, my best members come from:

Germany, Denmark, UK, Australia, Canada, US, New Zealand, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland, France.

Brasil has a small amount of friendly traffic - but for the most part they're one small step down from russian hackers.

My bandwidth costs are 5 times what it costs in the US and the expense of servicing traffic which will probably never convert is significant.

Does anyone route their traffic differently for different geographic sources?

-Dino

DatingGold · 10-28-2004, 01:40 PM

wiggitywack · 10-28-2004, 01:44 PM

Hey Dino

hit me up on icq, I have nice tool where you can re-direct the traffic that won't convert and send to a few alternate solutions

u can customize what countries you want to re-direct and not touch the 'good' traffic

lots of major players are using it, I will walk you through it

hit me up
156 335 240

dcortez · 10-28-2004, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wiggitywack
Hey Dino

hit me up on icq, I have nice tool where you can re-direct the traffic that won't convert and send to a few alternate solutions

u can customize what countries you want to re-direct and not touch the 'good' traffic

lots of major players are using it, I will walk you through it

hit me up
156 335 240

Hi, thanks for the invite - I'll hook up with you sometime soon.

All of my web pages are aware of the countries from which the visitors are arriving, but the risk/danger of blatently redirecting traffic for certain locations is that one is stepping onto thin ice with the search engines.

Doing so could be construed as a form of cloaking which I never do.

The best solution that works for me is to use my dynamic banners and links to lead them out to a different area without really changing the core content of the page.

Human nature, being what it is, makes it pretty easy to offer an 'exit stage right' which gets hit every time it's put up.

4Pics · 10-28-2004, 02:59 PM

I would block all USA and Canada, that way your conversion will be best.

BRISK · 10-28-2004, 03:03 PM

I redirect all Asian traffic to www.99bb.com

Drake · 10-28-2004, 03:05 PM

Anybody know the reason why Chinese traffic is bad? Why don't they buy?

dcortez · 10-28-2004, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike33
Anybody know the reason why Chinese traffic is bad? Why don't they buy?

1) As I understand, the Chinese government has serious penalties related to adult sites (jailtime and up to life sentences for webmasters).

2) They may have the golden arches in China, but the average worker does not enjoy the excesses we do in North America and the rest of the world because we do it much at their expense.

Case in point - go to any big box store and tally up the ratio of domestic products to imports from China and look at the prices. For us to drop 30 bucks on a signup or two is no biggie - for them, it still is. The question is, will it always be?

On that note, have we given up on China as a market for adult entertainment subscriptions?

Are we waiting for something to happen? Or, are we already closing down the borders?

What do you all think?

Jer · 10-28-2004, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tranza
I know for a fact the Brazilian traffic doesn't convert.

because most of the brazilians doesn't have international credit cards... but brazilian sites with local billing converts

10-28-2004, 04:44 AM	#1
dcortez DINO CORTEZ™ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 2,145	Which countries do not generate sales? Hi, I'd like to do an inventory of which countries are almost always bandwidth drains and do not generate substantial sales. For example, I get a lot of traffic from china but has anyone actually converted traffic from china to sales? With the criminal penalties related to online adult entertainment and the generally oppressive environment, can one ever make a sale to china? Rather than listing which countries do best (this varies with your audience), I'd like to focus on the 'guaranteed' no-sale countries and also those which regional traffic you have found to be more malicious than worthwhile. Thanks, -Dino

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TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	With hosting so cheap these days I don't want to block anybody. I have converted, but at very low rates: Saudia Arabia South Korea Isreael Poland and many others. In the years to come I think after the U.S. and Western Europe the rest of the world will discover porn too. __________________ I have no signature

10-28-2004, 11:58 AM	#12
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	That is true but it seems to me like its growing. Still only a signup ot two a month from eastern europe, but last year was none. __________________ I have no signature

10-28-2004, 12:01 PM	#13
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	I know for a fact the Brazilian traffic doesn't convert. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

10-28-2004, 08:55 AM	#2
latinasojourn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,191	you can basically kiss off china, korea, PI, indonesia, most of eastern europe, africa, south america. good: usa, western europe, aus, japan, canada choose your host wisely, with high speed and low hops to these regions. hint: webair

10-28-2004, 09:34 AM	#3
Girsh Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 69	Japan? How can I convert Japan traffic?

10-28-2004, 09:36 AM	#5
eisbaer Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Switzerland, France... Posts: 184	we convert on Japan Traffic about 1:50 :-)

10-28-2004, 10:21 AM	#8
dodger21 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,680	Aus is not bad. Aus converts ok for us.

10-28-2004, 11:31 AM	#11
Anothers Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Poland Posts: 219	the problem with east europe countries is that there is small amount of people with credit cards that will pay for online porn an example for polish porn traffic I can bet that about 60% (or even more) of surfers are 20 years old or younger - so probably no credit card at all

10-28-2004, 12:03 PM	#14
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10-28-2004, 12:03 PM	#15
beergood Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: United States Posts: 2,918	I would drop anything Asian period. That should drop most of the drain due to regional concerns. __________________ icq: 320340263

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Project-Shadow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,340	Chinese traffic is the absolute worst traffic known to man.. it's worse than Chinese hitbot traffic! [cause hitbots dont fucking hotlink everything in site]

10-28-2004, 12:06 PM	#18
beergood Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: United States Posts: 2,918	Yeah. Anything chinese fucking sucks. I got a word list together for various terms(melayu, bogel, etc) and do global search and remove on all generated pages for them. __________________ icq: 320340263

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strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	Those chinese people have gigantic amount of boards around. Some of them must be huugeeeeeee. got some content hotlinked -> burned mutch more than the hun :-(

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wiggitywack Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 561	Hey Dino hit me up on icq, I have nice tool where you can re-direct the traffic that won't convert and send to a few alternate solutions u can customize what countries you want to re-direct and not touch the 'good' traffic lots of major players are using it, I will walk you through it hit me up 156 335 240

10-28-2004, 02:59 PM	#25
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	I would block all USA and Canada, that way your conversion will be best.

10-28-2004, 03:03 PM	#26
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	I redirect all Asian traffic to www.99bb.com __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

10-28-2004, 03:05 PM	#27
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Anybody know the reason why Chinese traffic is bad? Why don't they buy?