www.wifeysworld.com

Yep... and several others.

http://www.wifeycash.com

Is an AVS webmaster an affiliate or paysite owner? Whatever you call it, they're under the umbrella of a program that takes a cut of their revenue.

Congrats on 2k.

Thanks man!:glugglug :thumbsup

and CCBill and Epoch take a cut of revenue out of paysites, does that mean we should just call paysite operators "affiliates"?

No because they're only processing the subscription. They're not doing the hosting, updating the main home site, getting more amateur sites up etc.

But I get your point. Can we end this?:1orglaugh

No...

that is right. A few very successful sites out there just do not want to be copied, so they keep to themselves and make a nice chunk of money.

I know what you mean. My point is that it's a little hard to refer to the SC girls as "affiliates" when they clearly have a direct connection to the running of their own websites and the content that appears on their site, as apposed to say an affiliate of TCG, ARS, NastyDollars who have no input into the sites they send traffic to.

I suppose the term "affiliate" is a bit vague.

I think what Sly went is paysites where all the promotion/traffic generation is done internally.

That's not quite the case for SC.

This thread started off well..

hell ya - they are cool peep also. They 2 of my single girl sites as 'friends' and dammm the traffic was awesome.

Judging from your past posts I got the assumption that you have an in-house setup. No clue what you have though!

Any idea how they got so big?

...until I made it better :winkwink:

50-75 joins a day? Not many.

But 10-20k a month? More than you might think.

There are lots of reasons not to go with an affliate program - ask anyone who runs one.

There are also lots of reasons TO go with an affiliate program - ask anyone who runs one.

It becomes a matter of choice and what level of success is acceptable to you.

Historically, you saw this a lot in the amateur arena. Sites started off with no affliate program, and grew to a comfortable level, successful by any standard. THEN they started affliate programs. Homegrown and Carol Cox are two I could name without feeling I was saying anything anyone didn't want revealed. Both those sites were doing very well prior to starting their affliate programs.

an addendum:

I was once told by the owner of a very large, well known affiliate program:

Unless you are bringing deep pockets to the table, a good rule of thumb on starting a paysite - if you can't make it profitable with your own traffic and no affiliates, you probably won't make it as a sponsor.

Opinion only, but I can see the sense of it.

oh

We operate around 60 mainstream sites focused on the same group of products. Average of 150-225 sales daily with no affiliates.

www.pamporn.com been around and making money since 1998 . . . no affiliates . . . . it is for sale BTW

Wow - pamporn... been around forever.

want to buy it?

Same goes for SE experts. ;)

Euro Sex Parti is Nasty Dollars

I belive he talked about cfnm.com

On another note I read that redclouds.com had 600,000 paid members in an article that was made in 2001.

The funny thing was that they was complaing about
bandiwidth costs in that article.

The most successful guys
without affiliates, dont you think?

:eek7

Don't they have a similar setup to Southern Charms?

I would tend to agree.

they have proadult.com for affiliates.

You can get free hosting aka redclouds server as an affiliate.

:glugglug

:thumbsup

didnt know about that.

Prolly mentioned already, but Southern Charms. :2 cents:

bump

Great topic.

I wish we were in a buying position, but at the moment, we're not. Definately a blast from the past, though. :)

FemDom sites with good content are netting an average of 10k with no affiliates. I am pretty sure that is standard with most good femdom sites.

Cheyenne

Very true.

We are converting well on www.paulmarkhamteens.com with TGP and bought traffic, 2 of our affiliated also do very well. But as I see it unless I spend a fortune enticing affiliates and give away 35%+ of my turn over it's never going to take off. Plus wiith affiliates I will have to spend hours looking after some of them.

We got a student working 20 hours a week, submitting by hand and Chameleon and signing up over 30 a week, and growing, with Chameleon and some partner accounts. Low figures but we are newbies at traffic.

Now do I take on more guys full time, pay for spots and traffic and concentrate on making the site retain or put in a lot more work with affiliates, which will effect the business?

100 joins a day without affiliates, must be the same income as 200 a day with them, they can be expensive to get, keep and maintain.

I guess we will go the middle road and have our own traffic sources plus let affiliates join us if they want to and try to convert and retain their traffic.

Just took a look at this and it's an excellent site.

No one mentioned ALS Scans? :thumbsup

They use to be part of triplexcash.

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