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Old 10-27-2004, 01:47 PM   #1
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A question for supporters of president Bush

There are many things you can justify and explain in the decisions and the behavior of a president but this is something that has been bothering me for some time now. When G. Bush learned that America is under attack he was in a classroom with children. He didn't do the very obvious to instantly leave, but he stayed there for several minutes. Afterwards it was given an explanation that he didn't want to scare the kids by leaving. That's a poor excuse for me.

take 5 minutes to watch the video at:
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/bush-911.htm

Let's put you now in a similar, real-life situation.

Suppose your learn that your mother is under attack and you are in the house with your kids and your wife. Your kids are safe because your wife is there (which is equivalent to children-teacher). Would you instantly leave the house and run to protect your mother or would you waste time in the house?

How do you perceive president's reaction? Can you justify it to yourself? Is it something you can excuse or better is it a reaction that a responsible, normal person will EVER do? I believe G. Bush hasn't realised how much important is the role of the president and what great responsibility it carries and the video is the best proof.

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Old 10-27-2004, 01:50 PM   #2
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He thought his mother can take kare of herself.
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Old 10-27-2004, 01:51 PM   #3
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Good question. What if the nation was under a much bigger threat? What if more serious attacks continued after the WTC crash? It was such a critical time for decision making, because of not knowing what was gonna happen next.



It almost felt like he already knew the extent of the attack.
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Old 10-27-2004, 01:51 PM   #4
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I truly think it was because he really was not surprised about the news at all.. He new months ahead about terrorists planning to use commercial air lines as bombs.

He is probably happy they did.. he got rich because of it.
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Old 10-27-2004, 01:54 PM   #5
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I don't want to believe he was prepared for the attack in such degree to stay calm. Obviously there was some info that a possible attack can take place in future, but I don't want to go further than this....
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Old 10-27-2004, 02:01 PM   #6
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I don't want to believe he was prepared for the attack in such degree to stay calm. Obviously there was some info that a possible attack can take place in future, but I don't want to go further than this....
Is it comfortable living in a bubble?
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Old 10-27-2004, 02:07 PM   #7
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it is natural human behaviour to react to news of such degree in a prompt a diligent way.......unless you're either :

a) A Psycopath

or


b) A dumbass



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Old 10-27-2004, 02:16 PM   #8
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Whats even more disturbing is he knew the first plane hit BEFORE he went into that classroom. When he was told "we are under attack" is when the second plane hit. Any leader that sits in a classroom for 7 minutes during the first signs of an attack should be thrown out of office.
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Old 10-27-2004, 02:32 PM   #9
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Old 10-27-2004, 02:38 PM   #10
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Any leader that sits in a classroom for 7 minutes during the first signs of an attack should be thrown out of office.
That's not disturbing and you are so wrong
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Old 10-27-2004, 02:41 PM   #11
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That's not disturbing and you are so wrong
No he is right.
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Old 10-27-2004, 02:44 PM   #12
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Whats even more disturbing is he knew the first plane hit BEFORE he went into that classroom. When he was told "we are under attack" is when the second plane hit. Any leader that sits in a classroom for 7 minutes during the first signs of an attack should be thrown out of office.
I'm sorry. What should he have done? Walked from the class room to his car? Should he have changed in to his superman outfit and flown to NYC to stop the second plane?

And yea, one plane is an odd occurance. Two planes we're under attack.

I'm not standing up for his actions, however, they were THREE FUCKING YEARS AGO. We don't know his reasons for staying. Maybe the Secret Service made him stay put. Maybe he really did want to relay to the children that things were ok and by rushing out the door in a hurried manner with no explanation at all wouldn't do that.

If you don't like the guy, or you don't think he's been a good president, then don't vote for him.

fuck all this petty "lets find any reason to not vote for either candidate" bullshit. So he stayed in the classroom for 7 minutes. Anything he could do in those seven minutes would not have changed the outcome.

Oh, and vote Badnarik For President
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Old 10-27-2004, 02:51 PM   #13
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That's not disturbing and you are so wrong
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What would have been so different if Bush did leave the classroom right away? The planes were already in the air, and one tower had already been hit.

I am not saying that I am a Bush supporter and I am not a Kerry supporter, I just don't understand what would have made the huge difference whether he left right away or not.

Also, is it even known what was whispered into Bushs' ear when the children were sitting there reading the book?

Just some different things to think about
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Old 10-27-2004, 03:15 PM   #15
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I'm sorry. What should he have done? Walked from the class room to his car? Should he have changed in to his superman outfit and flown to NYC to stop the second plane?

For one thing the second plane had hit when he was sitting in the classroom.

I'll tell you exactly what he should have done. He should have immediately excused himself to find out exactly what the hell was going on. How in the world can anyone sit there for 7 minutes after hearing the country is under attack not knowing whats going on?? Could you?
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Old 10-27-2004, 03:17 PM   #16
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I'm sorry. What should he have done? Walked from the class room to his car? Should he have changed in to his superman outfit and flown to NYC to stop the second plane?

And yea, one plane is an odd occurance. Two planes we're under attack.

I'm not standing up for his actions, however, they were THREE FUCKING YEARS AGO. We don't know his reasons for staying. Maybe the Secret Service made him stay put. Maybe he really did want to relay to the children that things were ok and by rushing out the door in a hurried manner with no explanation at all wouldn't do that.

If you don't like the guy, or you don't think he's been a good president, then don't vote for him.

fuck all this petty "lets find any reason to not vote for either candidate" bullshit. So he stayed in the classroom for 7 minutes. Anything he could do in those seven minutes would not have changed the outcome.

Oh, and vote Badnarik For President
He's the commander in chief, shouldn't he have gotten off his ass and went to work?
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Old 10-27-2004, 03:19 PM   #17
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What would have been so different if Bush did leave the classroom right away? The planes were already in the air, and one tower had already been hit.

from what you say, it would be also okay if he would have played golf, to continue playing golf? erhm..
something is wrong here
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Old 10-27-2004, 03:44 PM   #18
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He's the commander in chief, shouldn't he have gotten off his ass and went to work?
agreed, totally...

sitting around and chillen with kids during a massive attack on the US is not 'Commander in Chiefly" no matter how you slice it...


US under attack, how do you know if thousands of your citizens are being killed, if you are needed to make decisions to prevent more from being killed....minutes count...it's seriously not that hard to figure out...


what if there was a larger time lapse between airplane 1 and airplane 2 hitting the WTC and scrambling some jets to that area could have prevented the 2nd one from hitting...sometimes minutes really count...esp during battles and war....


lives are lost in a flash in most hostile situations, not casually over a long duration of time...war is war, cancer is another story...
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I'm sorry. What should he have done? Walked from the class room to his car? Should he have changed in to his superman outfit and flown to NYC to stop the second plane?

And yea, one plane is an odd occurance. Two planes we're under attack.

I'm not standing up for his actions, however, they were THREE FUCKING YEARS AGO. We don't know his reasons for staying. Maybe the Secret Service made him stay put. Maybe he really did want to relay to the children that things were ok and by rushing out the door in a hurried manner with no explanation at all wouldn't do that.

If you don't like the guy, or you don't think he's been a good president, then don't vote for him.

fuck all this petty "lets find any reason to not vote for either candidate" bullshit. So he stayed in the classroom for 7 minutes. Anything he could do in those seven minutes would not have changed the outcome.

Oh, and vote Badnarik For President
HE'S THE FUCKING COMMANDER IN CHIEF YOU TWAT!
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Old 10-27-2004, 03:49 PM   #20
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Dubya was waiting for his handlers to tell him what to do.

Like he always does.

He is a good little puppet.
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Old 10-29-2004, 11:52 AM   #21
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Old 10-29-2004, 12:00 PM   #22
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Explain this. Bush was in SARASOTA Florida on 9-11. Mohomad Atta spent 18 months in VENCIE, Florida before the attacks. Venice, Florida is in SARASOTA County just 20 miles away from the city of Sarasota. Hell of a fucking conincidence.
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He should be kicked out he didn't do anything and I believe that Kerry would because he actually knows about combat and not running away from it...
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Explain this. Bush was in SARASOTA Florida on 9-11. Mohomad Atta spent 18 months in VENCIE, Florida before the attacks. Venice, Florida is in SARASOTA County just 20 miles away from the city of Sarasota. Hell of a fucking conincidence.
And his brother is the governor of the state that killed the cat that ate the rate that lives in the house that jack built
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What would have been so different if Bush did leave the classroom right away? The planes were already in the air, and one tower had already been hit.

I am not saying that I am a Bush supporter and I am not a Kerry supporter, I just don't understand what would have made the huge difference whether he left right away or not.

Also, is it even known what was whispered into Bushs' ear when the children were sitting there reading the book?

Just some different things to think about
Well, if my country was under attack I'd make sure I get the details on the action ASAP.
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Old 10-29-2004, 12:27 PM   #26
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The more I think about this the more I wonder if Bush knew more about this than we know. I know I've brought this up before but seriously, how can one sit there for that long and if nothing else, wouldnt the curiousity kill ya? Fuck, I was in a meeting when it happened and at the moment we heard about it everyone jumped up and ran out of the room just to see what was going on. It makes no sense. There was no shock whatsoever on his face, he knew something. Unfortunately we may never know the real truth.
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