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eiht_98 10-27-2004 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by TurboAngel
I love StatsRemote.


:thumbsup

:thumbsup

jayeff 10-27-2004 03:55 PM

I am on my first month and I'm undecided whether to go for a second: probably not.

I got it because since I started using hosted galleries for my TGP's it is obvious that some are good and others are just taking up space I could put to better use. And when you start needing to check dozens of sponsors, then the cost of SR doesn't seem as bad.

The problem is that a high %age of such sponsors use ccBill and only by de-centralizing your ccBill stats can SR identify individual sponsor numbers. Not a big deal until you discover that ccBill also have a limit on how many times an IP can hit their stats server before it gets blocked.

That in turn might not be an impossible barrier, except they won't tell you what the limit is. So the only way to know if you could hit 100 sets of stats daily, would be to set the whole thing up and find out... and then have to put everything back to where you started if it didn't work out.

All of which is ccBill's fault rather than SR's, but it still means that SR only saves me a fraction of the work I was hoping it could achieve...

J B 10-27-2004 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by cocky
Love it! More addictive than crack.
Great for watching ppc numbers and knowing if something is going wrong like last week on google one of my "keywords" was "slowed" so they slowed my entire ad. Could have cost me a bunch of money if I hadn't noticed for a day or so.
Very good for comparing sponsor to sponsor all the way down to the cost per click level.

Yep, it's especially useful if you advertise on ppc search engines. There's one ppc se where we don't want to be in the top 10 for certain keywords. We get a lot of traffic if we're in the top 10 but the traffic quality is much worse than for listings on the second page (results 11-20). With StatsRemote we always notice it immediately if we're in the top 10 as then the difference column shows a much higher amount than usual every 15 minutes.

BTW here's an article I wrote about two years ago if anybody is interested...

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Know all your numbers!

If you promote many different programs it can get very difficult and time consuming to keep track of all your numbers. Which program works best with your traffic? Which program makes you the most money?

You usually have to login to each stats area in order to check your current numbers. Furthermore some programs provide statistics monthly, others weekly or bi-weekly. As a result the statistics are not directly comparable. You have to use, for example, a spreadsheet program to track and compare your numbers.

It gets even more difficult, if you advertise your sites in pay per click search engines such as Overture. If you play this game you know how dangerous it can be if you don't monitor your traffic closely.

IMHO many people lose a lot of money because they don't keep an eye on their stats. Others spend a lot of time analyzing their stats and can't do any 'real' work during that time. We belonged to the second group. Over the last years we have developed several tools to make our life easier and our work more productive.

We thought there must be a way to automate the whole process and started to develop a software to check all our stats automatically. Stats Remote was born. It keeps track of all stats and provides a common monthly based view of your numbers. The software can check your stats as often as every 15 minutes and displays all your current numbers and a forecast for the month for each program and in total.

By using such a tool you will make more money in the long run. There are two reasons for this. Firstly, you will save time ? if you're an obsessive stats checker, a lot of time. Now you can use this time to build more sites, galleries, etc. Secondly, you will be able to compare your sponsors better and change your marketing and/or links accordingly.

Just ask yourself the following questions: How much time do I spend checking and analyzing my stats every day? How much more traffic could I get if I used that time to build more sites, galleries, etc.? How much money do I sometimes lose because I don't keep an eye on my stats and send thousands of hits to a sponsor that doesn't convert my traffic?

Whether you use a software or check your stats manually there is one thing you should always remember: Sponsors count hits differently. Some sponsors count first page raw's, some count second page unique's, and others seem to count eighth page unique's even though there is no eighth page. It always amazes me when people compare the ratios of two sponsors that count hits totally differently and base their decisions only on these ratios.

Therefore a software like Stats Remote can only help you to a certain extend. You will have all your numbers right in front of you but you still have to make the right decisions by yourself. Always remember: A fool with a tool is still a fool ;-)

If you have any questions or need further information please feel free to contact us by ICQ (5210719) or Email (support AT statsremote.com).

Article written by JB.

http://www.statsremote.com

J B 10-27-2004 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by jayeff
I am on my first month and I'm undecided whether to go for a second: probably not.

I got it because since I started using hosted galleries for my TGP's it is obvious that some are good and others are just taking up space I could put to better use. And when you start needing to check dozens of sponsors, then the cost of SR doesn't seem as bad.

The problem is that a high %age of such sponsors use ccBill and only by de-centralizing your ccBill stats can SR identify individual sponsor numbers. Not a big deal until you discover that ccBill also have a limit on how many times an IP can hit their stats server before it gets blocked.

That in turn might not be an impossible barrier, except they won't tell you what the limit is. So the only way to know if you could hit 100 sets of stats daily, would be to set the whole thing up and find out... and then have to put everything back to where you started if it didn't work out.

All of which is ccBill's fault rather than SR's, but it still means that SR only saves me a fraction of the work I was hoping it could achieve...

Yep, I know the situation with CCBill is not perfect but unfortunately there's nothing we can do from our end. I totally understand CCBill's position on this though. If hundreds of StatsRemote members checked dozens of CCBill accounts all the time, it would slow down the whole system.

TurboAngel 10-27-2004 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by J B
Yep, more and more people are switching from monthly to yearly as they are certain that they will use StatsRemote for a long time :)


I forget how long it's been but I'm happy and so is Turboface.


:glugglug

jayeff 10-27-2004 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by J B
If hundreds of StatsRemote members checked dozens of CCBill accounts all the time, it would slow down the whole system.
I don't dispute that for a moment, but they won't even tell you what you can check whether it be 100 accounts once a day, once a week or what. So you are totally screwed instead of just needing to dial back to something reasonable.

It's very depressing that ccBill are becoming more popular with sponsors, because their attitude towards affiliates has always been that's the way it is, you don't like it, tough.

Dawgy 10-27-2004 04:18 PM

i have it on my pc, but i use my apple laptop 99% of the time... so i really do miss it :(

jact 10-27-2004 04:28 PM

I've been using Stats Remote for nearly a year, my membership renews on the 29th but I don't think I'll be renewing. I'd probably renew if I could use it on my laptop and PC but the single computer license is limiting. Don't get me wrong, it's a great program, just gets some stats really wrong a lot of the time.

beemk 10-27-2004 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by The Heron
I have a hard time justifying paying money to see how much money I have made when I could just wait for the checks to show up to figure it out. Or if I really care I can check myself for free.
so you dont like to see what sites are doing good and what sites arent? i like to keep an eye on my ratios and drop poor sponsors and send more traffic to good sponsors.

J B 10-27-2004 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by jact
I've been using Stats Remote for nearly a year, my membership renews on the 29th but I don't think I'll be renewing. I'd probably renew if I could use it on my laptop and PC but the single computer license is limiting. Don't get me wrong, it's a great program, just gets some stats really wrong a lot of the time.
Which stats does it get wrong a lot of the time? When we get an error report we usually fix it for the next update and in 95% of the cases wrong or no stats in StatsRemote are due to programs changing their stats.

As for the single-user license... you can use it on your laptop and your PC, just not at the same time. Why is it limiting if it's only you using the software? IMHO it's no problem to close or pause it on the computer you're not working on. And if you forget it once in a while it's no big deal either :)

speakthetruth 10-27-2004 04:42 PM

It is a good software. Crack floating around so you do not have to waste $ on it.

J B 10-27-2004 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by speakthetruth
It is a good software. Crack floating around so you do not have to waste $ on it.
So, first you break a deal we had with you and now you're using a cracked version of StatsRemote? Way to go...

BTW how do you get any updates with a cracked version?

DatingGold 10-27-2004 05:12 PM

i do

J B 10-28-2004 01:03 AM

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Originally posted by J B
So, first you break a deal we had with you and now you're using a cracked version of StatsRemote? Way to go...

BTW how do you get any updates with a cracked version?

No reply to this, Brad? Oh well, why doesn't this surprise me...

Drake 10-28-2004 01:10 AM

JB if I used more than 6 sponsors I would use statsremote. One only has so much traffic to go around you know:winkwink:

frankfortuna 10-28-2004 01:17 AM

Even if we had affiliates, I still wouldn't allow it. I'd rather not have dozens of affiliates pounding our stats system with an automated script.

PowerCum 10-28-2004 01:56 AM

The problem is that I DON'T HAVE windows, so unless you make a Linux, Solaris or HP-UX version I cannot use your product... And I don't drink wine :) Wine is a windows emulator that runs windows progs under Linux. As it's not a complete emulation some stuff fails... and SR is one of the apps that fails to run properly under wine.

I realize that you will not code a custom version for me, but you asked why I don't use it and you got my answer.

J B 10-28-2004 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by frankfortuna
Even if we had affiliates, I still wouldn't allow it. I'd rather not have dozens of affiliates pounding our stats system with an automated script.
Well, quite a few affiliate program owners didn't want to be included in StatsRemote first. Most of them contacted us some time later and asked us if we could include them as some of their affiliates told them that they wouldn't promote them if they can't use StatsRemote to check their stats :)


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Originally posted by PowerCum
The problem is that I DON'T HAVE windows, so unless you make a Linux, Solaris or HP-UX version I cannot use your product... And I don't drink wine :) Wine is a windows emulator that runs windows progs under Linux. As it's not a complete emulation some stuff fails... and SR is one of the apps that fails to run properly under wine.

I realize that you will not code a custom version for me, but you asked why I don't use it and you got my answer.

I'm not a programmer but I guess the reason why it doesn't work is because there's not Microsoft JVM for Wine.

SomeCreep 10-28-2004 03:23 AM

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Originally posted by J B

Most of our members can't live without it anymore after the first day :)

Yep, thats the truth. Especially for webmasters promoting dozens of programs, Statsremote is essential. Excellent software and excellent technical support make for a fantastic product! :thumbsup :thumbsup

J B 10-28-2004 04:00 AM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep
Yep, thats the truth. Especially for webmasters promoting dozens of programs, Statsremote is essential. Excellent software and excellent technical support make for a fantastic product! :thumbsup :thumbsup
Thanks :)

Dawgy 10-28-2004 04:10 AM

c'mon, hire a mac programmer & find a way to do it without microshit's jvm ... :glugglug

u know wanna :thumbsup

J B 10-28-2004 04:19 AM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
c'mon, hire a mac programmer & find a way to do it without microshit's jvm ... :glugglug

u know wanna :thumbsup

If you can promise us 500 new members we might consider it :winkwink:

Seriously, it's just not worth it for us. I know this sucks for people that only use a Mac but I would say that at least 95% of all webmasters have a PC.

Dagwolf 10-28-2004 04:23 AM

Even though I'm signed up for a lot of sponsors, I only actually use a couple of them... checking stats doesnt' take that long.

stocktrader23 10-28-2004 04:28 AM

Because checking stats is the only interesting thing I have left to do. Everyone yells about wasting a few minutes here and there but they post on GFY so I don't get it. :winkwink:

J B 10-28-2004 04:50 AM

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Originally posted by Dagwolf
Even though I'm signed up for a lot of sponsors, I only actually use a couple of them... checking stats doesnt' take that long.
define 'doesn't take that long' :)


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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Because checking stats is the only interesting thing I have left to do. Everyone yells about wasting a few minutes here and there but they post on GFY so I don't get it. :winkwink:
If checking stats is the only interesting thing you have left to do, your life must suck :winkwink:
j/k

J B 10-28-2004 09:05 AM

BTW the offer is still valid for everybody. If you want to check out StatsRemote please send the following info to jb AT statsremote DOT com

- First and Last Name
- Email Address
- Desired Username
- Desired Password

I will then setup a temp pass for you :)


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