PHP pages and Search Engines - GoFuckYourself.com

infecto · 10-26-2004, 01:31 PM

I am working on some new sites which I am hoping to optimize for SEs and I was wondering how much does it effect ranking by using PHP pages? I know in the past some SEs preffered pure HTML but wasn't sure how much it has changed.

Basic_man · 10-26-2004, 01:34 PM

I think they can get the same rank as the HTMLs one

BoNgHiTtA · 10-26-2004, 01:37 PM

it doesnt matter.

there ive contributed my bit for the community this month. also, for november as well.

back to trolling.

jmk · 10-26-2004, 01:39 PM

good question!

sacX · 10-26-2004, 02:39 PM

change your server so it interprets php in .html pages

AndrewKanuck · 10-26-2004, 02:42 PM

Look at your pages the way a spider see's them....and if you don't know how, I'm sorry for you

nibbi · 10-26-2004, 02:43 PM

I have done sites in both striaght HTML and others in straight PHP. Both seem to rank about the same in the search engines.

EscortDate_Enoj · 10-26-2004, 03:03 PM

It doesn't matter whether the files are ending with .HTML or .PHP.

However, if you use some tool like for example mod_rewrite, you could manipulate all the urls to make them as search friendly as possible. No need to have file endings at all. Examples:

domain.com
domain.com/categoryname
domain.com/categoryname/girlname
domain.com/categoryname/girlname/setname

If done properly you get a great link structure which pays off with the SE's.

galleryseek · 10-26-2004, 03:08 PM

doesn't matter. the only thing those spiders look at is what is ON the page. and the best way to optimize it in a structured sense is through xhtml/CSS and not using tables for layout.

WiredGuy · 10-26-2004, 03:27 PM

To answer your question, while PHP is not listed among the supported documents on Google's list: http://www.google.com/webmasters/facts.html (see last fact), it is definitely supported and I don't see any types of penalties being imposed for it. The best example to compare this is to go to http://www.php.net

The whole site is powered on PHP and both its results in the SERP's and its PR show that php is fully supported.

WG

BRISK · 10-26-2004, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by galleryseek
doesn't matter. the only thing those spiders look at is what is ON the page. and the best way to optimize it in a structured sense is through xhtml/CSS and not using tables for layout.

SEs like to see CSS instead of tables?

lb_vee · 10-26-2004, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortDate_Enoj
It doesn't matter whether the files are ending with .HTML or .PHP.

However, if you use some tool like for example mod_rewrite, you could manipulate all the urls to make them as search friendly as possible. No need to have file endings at all. Examples:

domain.com
domain.com/categoryname
domain.com/categoryname/girlname
domain.com/categoryname/girlname/setname

If done properly you get a great link structure which pays off with the SE's.

This works very well. Its also a good way to learn about seperating modules and templates by using MVC with php.

infecto · 10-26-2004, 07:57 PM

Thanks for all the info guys!

Phil · 10-26-2004, 08:00 PM

works just as well as HTML...

galleryseek · 10-26-2004, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
SEs like to see CSS instead of tables?

i haven't done much research on it. but i don't believe engines "SEE CSS", but they see the simplicity of the site. css (less coding, more simplistic) is a lot more direct and to the point - which i believe can help in positioning. i have to do more research though to really be conclusive.

rowan · 10-26-2004, 08:11 PM

Try to avoid using ? type commandline variables.

www.somedomain.com/somescript/variable1/variable2
is always better than
www.somedomain.com/somescript.php?variable1=...&variable2=...

Some spiders may be reluctant to follow obviously dynamic links. Just be careful that they don't get stuck in a loop, trying out 69,891,627 combinations of your variables.

10-26-2004, 01:31 PM	#1
infecto Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,697	PHP pages and Search Engines I am working on some new sites which I am hoping to optimize for SEs and I was wondering how much does it effect ranking by using PHP pages? I know in the past some SEs preffered pure HTML but wasn't sure how much it has changed.

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EscortDate_Enoj Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 87	It doesn't matter whether the files are ending with .HTML or .PHP. However, if you use some tool like for example mod_rewrite, you could manipulate all the urls to make them as search friendly as possible. No need to have file endings at all. Examples: domain.com domain.com/categoryname domain.com/categoryname/girlname domain.com/categoryname/girlname/setname If done properly you get a great link structure which pays off with the SE's. __________________ 1:287 all November with UnrealBank

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galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	doesn't matter. the only thing those spiders look at is what is ON the page. and the best way to optimize it in a structured sense is through xhtml/CSS and not using tables for layout.

10-26-2004, 03:27 PM	#10
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,486	To answer your question, while PHP is not listed among the supported documents on Google's list: http://www.google.com/webmasters/facts.html (see last fact), it is definitely supported and I don't see any types of penalties being imposed for it. The best example to compare this is to go to http://www.php.net The whole site is powered on PHP and both its results in the SERP's and its PR show that php is fully supported. WG __________________ I play with Google.

10-26-2004, 07:57 PM	#13
infecto Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,697	Thanks for all the info guys!

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rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Try to avoid using ? type commandline variables. www.somedomain.com/somescript/variable1/variable2 is always better than www.somedomain.com/somescript.php?variable1=...&variable2=... Some spiders may be reluctant to follow obviously dynamic links. Just be careful that they don't get stuck in a loop, trying out 69,891,627 combinations of your variables.