Hospitals Are FUCKING CRAZY With Their Charges !!! - GoFuckYourself.com

Slick · 10-25-2004, 04:47 PM

A couple of weeks ago, my son was playing around and got a deep cut on his forhead, so we figured that it was best to bring him in. It was in the evening, so we were forced to go to the emergency room.

They got us into the room right away, then we had to wait for about 45 minutes. Finally the doctor came in, looked at the cut, then recommended that they glue it rather than stitch it. He got a bottle of peroxide and towel to clean it, then he took out a little tube of glue and glued it shut, it took less than 10 minutes.

Well, today I got the bill and here's their charges -

$68.00 M/S Supply Sterile Supply
$130.00 Emergency Room General
$141.00 Emergency Room Other
$321.00 Prof Fees Emergency Room
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$660.00 TOTAL

I think that's fucking unreal how they can charge $660.00 to glue a kid's head shut. If it wasn't on his forehead, I probably could've let it slide, but figured that it was in an obvious place that it should be glued to minimize scaring. I never dreamed it'd cost that much, I was thinking more like $400 at most. I sure was wrong.

That's a prime example of dry ass raping.

Veterans Day · 10-25-2004, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by Slick

That's a prime example of dry ass raping.

its a prime example of how MANY deadbeats wont pay thus passed along to us

CrazyAL · 10-25-2004, 04:50 PM

Come live in Canada

AndrewKanuck · 10-25-2004, 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by CrazyAL
Come live in Canada

Peaches · 10-25-2004, 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
its a prime example of how MANY deadbeats wont pay thus passed along to us

Bingo!

skillfull · 10-25-2004, 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by CrazyAL
Come live in Canada

you dont have health insurance in the US ?

i mean private insurance, not public like us
:P

FlyingIguana · 10-25-2004, 04:56 PM

if it happens again i'll grab some glue and do it for 200

wdsguy · 10-25-2004, 04:57 PM

can't survive without insurance nowdays...

Peaches · 10-25-2004, 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana
if it happens again i'll grab some glue and do it for 200

You can actually buy that medical glue stuff OTC now

Alltopnotch · 10-25-2004, 04:58 PM

2 summers ago i fell down a hill drunk as fuck...my head was all fucked up like a pumpkin and shit...my friend made me goto emergency the next morning...i signed in...sat there for like 5 minutes...then said fuck this and left. one week later i get a bill for like $278 after they did absolutely NOTHING to me there. i tried to fight it but it was no use...i was screwed...

supermann · 10-25-2004, 04:59 PM

Canada is so great, lol. Its FREE!

SuckOnThis · 10-25-2004, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
its a prime example of how MANY deadbeats wont pay thus passed along to us

No, its a prime example of why health insurance is so damn high which causes people to not be able to have it which in turn people cannot afford to pay the hospital bill. What the fuck is so hard to figure out about this?

Pete-KT · 10-25-2004, 05:02 PM

i rolled my ankle a month or so ago and it was the size of a baseball, well i wen tto the emergency room since i couldnt walk on my foot at all. i was there for about an hour gave them my insurance info and was on my way. Well i got a invoice fromt he ER to see what was charged to the insurance company and it was $1300.00 and i didnt even see a doctor i had a Student doctor tell me that I rolled my ankle very bad and to put little pressure on it for a few days, It goes to showyou how they rip us off

Pete-KT

Slick · 10-25-2004, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
its a prime example of how MANY deadbeats wont pay thus passed along to us

Yeah, that's true. I know that's a a big problem. However, if they didn't charge so much, more people would pay it. It's too bad that there wasn't any competition in the medical market.., that'd be nice.

Yeah, maybe I should move up to Canada, that's a good idea

I could move up to Toronto which is only like 7 hours from where I live now.

ROFL, ha ha. Sure FlyingIguana, I'll be sure to hit you up if it happens again, that'd sure save me a lot of cash.

As far as my philosophy on insurance goes. Right now I'm still kinda young (30), so I'm hoping that I'll be healthy enough to hold out on buying it for a while (knock on wood). I do have a wife and kids, but from what I gather, to get insurance would cost me at like $600 per month and that wouldn't even be great insurance. I'm not the best at price/plan comparisons though because the smartest at all of the terms and shit. I'd hate to just throw that money away like that. I suppose if something major does come up, I'll be fucked though. Once I'm a little older and more prone to problems, I'll get it.

Peaches · 10-25-2004, 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
No, its a prime example of why health insurance is so damn high which causes people to not be able to have it which in turn people cannot afford to pay the hospital bill. What the fuck is so hard to figure out about this?

Actually health insurance is so high because they are paying the absurdly high medical bills brought on by deadbeats not paying and medical lawsuits. They then pass on their costs to those purchasing the insurance.

sickkittens · 10-25-2004, 05:11 PM

Go directly to human resources and complain. There's a chance the bill can get lowered.

Tipsy · 10-25-2004, 05:12 PM

My mother just had a week in hospital for an ulcer and complications and it cost nothing. But then I don't live in the US...

Alltopnotch · 10-25-2004, 05:14 PM

i remember when my mom passed away...she was on life support for like 20 days...i peeped the blue shield bill real quick and the figures were like $500k or some shit around there...some crazy number...i was like wtf...

Slick · 10-25-2004, 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by sickkittens
Go directly to human resources and complain. There's a chance the bill can get lowered.

I actually thought about doing that because of the "$141.00 Emergency Room Other" charge. If they already charged me for the room, the stuff they used, and the doctor, what the hell would the "Other" charges be ???

doober · 10-25-2004, 05:18 PM

paid a 100$ to have a cyst removed by a plastic surgeon this morning.
Would have been free If it hadnt been done by a specialist.

Sometimes it pays to be canadian.... hehe

pxxx · 10-25-2004, 05:18 PM

They act like everyone have money to toss around to them thats why.

robfantasy · 10-25-2004, 06:49 PM

ya if you are poor you get to go for free (medicaid)

Sosa · 10-25-2004, 06:52 PM

jebus that sucks ass

WiredGuy · 10-25-2004, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by CrazyAL
Come live in Canada

In Canada, you would have had to wait about 12 hours in line

WG

directfiesta · 10-25-2004, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by Slick
I actually thought about doing that because of the "$141.00 Emergency Room Other" charge. If they already charged me for the room, the stuff they used, and the doctor, what the hell would the "Other" charges be ???

" Other" charges:

- breathing
- using the john
- sitting in a chair
- ....

JustJen · 10-25-2004, 07:02 PM

My son was in the hospital for a broken arm. I just got the "pre-insurance" bill. over 4k. I can not believe it. You know the insurance company will probably only pay 100 or something. I do not know how people without insurance manage.

Peaches · 10-25-2004, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by EpicJen
My son was in the hospital for a broken arm. I just got the "pre-insurance" bill. over 4k. I can not believe it. You know the insurance company will probably only pay 100 or something. I do not know how people without insurance manage.

They don't pay the bills.

Doctor Dre · 10-25-2004, 07:06 PM

I'm glad I'm in canada . our taxes pay for the system :P

detoxed · 10-25-2004, 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by Slick
Yeah, that's true. I know that's a a big problem. However, if they didn't charge so much, more people would pay it. It's too bad that there wasn't any competition in the medical market.., that'd be nice.

Yeah, maybe I should move up to Canada, that's a good idea I could move up to Toronto which is only like 7 hours from where I live now.

ROFL, ha ha. Sure FlyingIguana, I'll be sure to hit you up if it happens again, that'd sure save me a lot of cash.

As far as my philosophy on insurance goes. Right now I'm still kinda young (30), so I'm hoping that I'll be healthy enough to hold out on buying it for a while (knock on wood). I do have a wife and kids, but from what I gather, to get insurance would cost me at like $600 per month and that wouldn't even be great insurance. I'm not the best at price/plan comparisons though because the smartest at all of the terms and shit. I'd hate to just throw that money away like that. I suppose if something major does come up, I'll be fucked though. Once I'm a little older and more prone to problems, I'll get it.

a poor person cant afford $100 or $700, they arent going to pay either one.

Peaches · 10-25-2004, 07:16 PM

Slick, almost every state has insurance you can get for kids that's $15-20 a month. It has income requirements but if you make more than their max, then you can afford insurance.

There are also catastrophic policies you can get with high deductibles and low monthly payments.

Losing everything you have or filing bankruptcy because of one large cost incident doesn't seem a very smart gamble, IMHO.

myjah · 10-25-2004, 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches
Slick, almost every state has insurance you can get for kids that's $15-20 a month. It has income requirements but if you make more than their max, then you can afford insurance.

There are also catastrophic policies you can get with high deductibles and low monthly payments.

Losing everything you have or filing bankruptcy because of one large cost incident doesn't seem a very smart gamble, IMHO.

If I'm correct you should never have to file bankruptcy over medical bills...I don't think any outstanding medical balances are even allowed to show on your credit report (or atleast if they are shown, they aren't supposed to be considered negatively when you apply for credit)

As far as hospital charges, I agree that they are truly out of this world. I recently delivered my first child and I was in the hospital for 30 hours. Both the baby and myself spent one night in a room before they discharged us because we didn't have any insurance. The bill totaled $6,000 from the hospital and $600 from the pediatrician. I am sooo glad we didn't stay a second night, lol.

reynold · 10-25-2004, 07:29 PM

hospitals = generally bad places

Veterans Day · 10-25-2004, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
a poor person cant afford $100 or $700, they arent going to pay either one.

people seem to forget that, the lawsuits, the non payers and so forth reak havoc on the system. Regardless anyone without insurance is asking for problems

fris · 10-25-2004, 07:30 PM

i like staying in the hospital for 3 weeks, paying nothing in canada

Argoz · 10-25-2004, 07:31 PM

Welcome to USA.......

Marcus Aurelius · 10-25-2004, 07:35 PM

you should try riding to the emergency room in a helicopter from 80 miles out,..then take a look at the bill. A friend of mine got in a car crash in the mountains in north georgia and they had to fly her to atlanta. The chopper ride alone was $5,000.00

WarChild · 10-25-2004, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by fris
i like staying in the hospital for 3 weeks, paying nothing in canada

Health care is not free in Canada unless you make a very tiny amount of money. If you're a professional of any sort you'll be paying something for health care.

Our system is fucking falling apart up here. I'd personally rather get in for surgery and worry about paying the bill later than wait for surgery and die waiting.

Our Medical System in Canada is far from perfect, don't fool yourself.

Veterans Day · 10-25-2004, 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
Health care is not free in Canada unless you make a very tiny amount of money. If you're a professional of any sort you'll be paying something for health care.

Our system is fucking falling apart up here. I'd personally rather get in for surgery and worry about paying the bill later than wait for surgery and die waiting.

Our Medical System in Canada is far from perfect, don't fool yourself.

my buddy tells me this all the time. He says he bound to die in a waiting room for his "free" healthcare

quiet · 10-25-2004, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
Health care is not free in Canada unless you make a very tiny amount of money. If you're a professional of any sort you'll be paying something for health care.

Our system is fucking falling apart up here. I'd personally rather get in for surgery and worry about paying the bill later than wait for surgery and die waiting.

Our Medical System in Canada is far from perfect, don't fool yourself.

pretty much agree with you. though it really varies depending on where you are. in Whistler you walk in and someone is looking at you in 10 minutes. in Vancouver or Montreal, it's a fucking joke unless you are dying.

for the Americans: how much would a 10 day hospital stay cost you, with a variety of tests and medication (but without surgery)? any sort of ball park figure you can give me?

SuckOnThis · 10-25-2004, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches
Actually health insurance is so high because they are paying the absurdly high medical bills brought on by deadbeats not paying and medical lawsuits. They then pass on their costs to those purchasing the insurance.

You people are so damn gullable it makes me sick. All of a sudden Bush comes out and says health insurance is high because of lawsuits (because of Edwards) and you morons repeat it like a parrot. Hate to break it to you but medical lawsuits make up less than 5% of actual medical costs.

sweandy · 10-25-2004, 07:54 PM

It only costs me $15 for my hospital visits. Ambulance rides, xrays, operations..

Only high costs are dental. Had 2 teeths removed costed $500

Veterans Day · 10-25-2004, 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
You people are so damn gullable it makes me sick. All of a sudden Bush comes out and says health insurance is high because of lawsuits (because of Edwards) and you morons repeat it like a parrot. Hate to break it to you but medical lawsuits make up less than 5% of actual medical costs.

Health care has been like this decades before bush, put down your pipe this has nothing to do with bush

WarChild · 10-25-2004, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
You people are so damn gullable it makes me sick. All of a sudden Bush comes out and says health insurance is high because of lawsuits (because of Edwards) and you morons repeat it like a parrot. Hate to break it to you but medical lawsuits make up less than 5% of actual medical costs.

5% of direct costs, sure. What percentage does insurance cost though? Cumatively I'll bet it's moer than 5%.

Peaches · 10-25-2004, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by myjah
If I'm correct you should never have to file bankruptcy over medical bills...I don't think any outstanding medical balances are even allowed to show on your credit report (or atleast if they are shown, they aren't supposed to be considered negatively when you apply for credit)

You are incorrect. In fact, medical bills are one of the main reasons for bankruptcy. And of course medical past due accounts can and will show up on your credit report.

The Heron · 10-25-2004, 08:16 PM

Next time just whip out the super glue and fix him up yourself!

Peaches · 10-25-2004, 08:16 PM

Personally I couldn't care less if America had a socialized medical system.

HOWEVER, only if those who opt out and want to have their own insurance don't have to pay into it.

It's my pipedream

myjah · 10-25-2004, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches
You are incorrect. In fact, medical bills are one of the main reasons for bankruptcy. And of course medical past due accounts can and will show up on your credit report.

I don't know a single person who has filed bankruptcy due to medical bills. I know MANY people who have gone to the emergency room, multiple times, and never paid a cent. They own homes, have new cars, nice credit lines.

SuckOnThis · 10-25-2004, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
Health care has been like this decades before bush, put down your pipe this has nothing to do with bush

Nice smokescreen. Where exactly did I say Bush caused it? But since you brought it up whats your explanation for health insurance going up over 50% since Bush? Oh, almost forgot....its because of Edwards suing doctors....nevermind.

Spunky · 10-25-2004, 08:45 PM

Wow..that is outrageous..I'm glad I live in Canada

SpikeHeel · 10-25-2004, 08:56 PM

It's so sad to know that hospitals nowadays don't accept patients when there is no downpayment. They make an assurance that once a patient checks in even for check-up only, will pay for the required billing which is quite high.

10-25-2004, 04:47 PM	#1
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	Hospitals Are FUCKING CRAZY With Their Charges !!! A couple of weeks ago, my son was playing around and got a deep cut on his forhead, so we figured that it was best to bring him in. It was in the evening, so we were forced to go to the emergency room. They got us into the room right away, then we had to wait for about 45 minutes. Finally the doctor came in, looked at the cut, then recommended that they glue it rather than stitch it. He got a bottle of peroxide and towel to clean it, then he took out a little tube of glue and glued it shut, it took less than 10 minutes. Well, today I got the bill and here's their charges - $68.00 M/S Supply Sterile Supply $130.00 Emergency Room General $141.00 Emergency Room Other $321.00 Prof Fees Emergency Room --------------------------------------------- $660.00 TOTAL I think that's fucking unreal how they can charge $660.00 to glue a kid's head shut. If it wasn't on his forehead, I probably could've let it slide, but figured that it was in an obvious place that it should be glued to minimize scaring. I never dreamed it'd cost that much, I was thinking more like $400 at most. I sure was wrong. That's a prime example of dry ass raping.

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Alltopnotch Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oakland Posts: 2,845	2 summers ago i fell down a hill drunk as fuck...my head was all fucked up like a pumpkin and shit...my friend made me goto emergency the next morning...i signed in...sat there for like 5 minutes...then said fuck this and left. one week later i get a bill for like $278 after they did absolutely NOTHING to me there. i tried to fight it but it was no use...i was screwed... __________________ WANT A FREE LAPTOP?

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Alltopnotch Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oakland Posts: 2,845	i remember when my mom passed away...she was on life support for like 20 days...i peeped the blue shield bill real quick and the figures were like $500k or some shit around there...some crazy number...i was like wtf... __________________ WANT A FREE LAPTOP?

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FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	if it happens again i'll grab some glue and do it for 200

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Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	i rolled my ankle a month or so ago and it was the size of a baseball, well i wen tto the emergency room since i couldnt walk on my foot at all. i was there for about an hour gave them my insurance info and was on my way. Well i got a invoice fromt he ER to see what was charged to the insurance company and it was $1300.00 and i didnt even see a doctor i had a Student doctor tell me that I rolled my ankle very bad and to put little pressure on it for a few days, It goes to showyou how they rip us off Pete-KT

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JustJen Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,233	My son was in the hospital for a broken arm. I just got the "pre-insurance" bill. over 4k. I can not believe it. You know the insurance company will probably only pay 100 or something. I do not know how people without insurance manage. __________________ icq:175766581

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Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	Slick, almost every state has insurance you can get for kids that's $15-20 a month. It has income requirements but if you make more than their max, then you can afford insurance. There are also catastrophic policies you can get with high deductibles and low monthly payments. Losing everything you have or filing bankruptcy because of one large cost incident doesn't seem a very smart gamble, IMHO.

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Marcus Aurelius No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 14,809	you should try riding to the emergency room in a helicopter from 80 miles out,..then take a look at the bill. A friend of mine got in a car crash in the mountains in north georgia and they had to fly her to atlanta. The chopper ride alone was $5,000.00

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sweandy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 422	It only costs me $15 for my hospital visits. Ambulance rides, xrays, operations.. Only high costs are dental. Had 2 teeths removed costed $500

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