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Big Ray · 10-25-2004, 02:12 AM

My conservative friend and I got into a discussion about Iraq.

He justified the war, IN PART, with the following statement:

"We are fighting terrorists. Maybe not Iraq's.. but we sure as hell brought the fight to them in their region. In Iraq, they are not closing the borders on purpose. They want to keep the flow of Anti-U.S. Muslims and Arabs flowing over the border to a country where U.S. forces can shoot back."

Basically, he contends that by fighting them in Iraq, they focus less on taking the fight to America.

What do you think about this?

Discuss.

xenigo · 10-25-2004, 02:15 AM

I think your friend is just a blood thirsty Republican that thinks that war is the answer to everything. Tell him to put down the crack pipe, and realize that Dubya is the #1 reason that this country is the most hated it's ever been.

tical · 10-25-2004, 02:51 AM

Terrorists existed and hated the US way before W was voted into office.

They've tried (and succeeded) numerous times in bringing terror into the US and to US interests.

I'm not for or against bush but it seems as if a lot of people are jumping on the anti bush bandwagon just because everyone else is doing it.

There was a reason for going to war with Afghanistan just like there was a reason to go war with Iraq.

Leverage in the middle east? Maybe (for the reason below).
Oil? Probably.

The point is, if the US is going to remain the richest superpower on earth these things need to be done. If people have to die, then they'll die. It's a numbers game, sacrifices (home and abroad) need to be made and of course there's a hidden agenda. No matter who our president is/was this would have happened. You think W makes all of these decisions? Do you think it's a coincedence that an idiot was placed into office for the 4 years that all of these "bad decisions" were made?

These things need to be done... we'll set our own oil prices until there is no more oil to set prices for, and isn't terror a great excuse to get our foot in the door?

It's all business, the US is planning ahead just like any smart business man would do.

Might not be right, but I'm betting that's the reality of it.

10-25-2004, 02:51 AM	#3
tical Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 6,504	Terrorists existed and hated the US way before W was voted into office. They've tried (and succeeded) numerous times in bringing terror into the US and to US interests. I'm not for or against bush but it seems as if a lot of people are jumping on the anti bush bandwagon just because everyone else is doing it. There was a reason for going to war with Afghanistan just like there was a reason to go war with Iraq. Leverage in the middle east? Maybe (for the reason below). Oil? Probably. The point is, if the US is going to remain the richest superpower on earth these things need to be done. If people have to die, then they'll die. It's a numbers game, sacrifices (home and abroad) need to be made and of course there's a hidden agenda. No matter who our president is/was this would have happened. You think W makes all of these decisions? Do you think it's a coincedence that an idiot was placed into office for the 4 years that all of these "bad decisions" were made? These things need to be done... we'll set our own oil prices until there is no more oil to set prices for, and isn't terror a great excuse to get our foot in the door? It's all business, the US is planning ahead just like any smart business man would do. Might not be right, but I'm betting that's the reality of it. __________________ 112.020.756 Last edited by tical; 10-25-2004 at 02:52 AM..

10-25-2004, 02:12 AM	#1
Big Ray Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 464	My Conservative Friend.... My conservative friend and I got into a discussion about Iraq. He justified the war, IN PART, with the following statement: "We are fighting terrorists. Maybe not Iraq's.. but we sure as hell brought the fight to them in their region. In Iraq, they are not closing the borders on purpose. They want to keep the flow of Anti-U.S. Muslims and Arabs flowing over the border to a country where U.S. forces can shoot back." Basically, he contends that by fighting them in Iraq, they focus less on taking the fight to America. What do you think about this? Discuss.

10-25-2004, 02:15 AM	#2
xenigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 8,067	I think your friend is just a blood thirsty Republican that thinks that war is the answer to everything. Tell him to put down the crack pipe, and realize that Dubya is the #1 reason that this country is the most hated it's ever been.