KRL

I go through streaks winning lots of hands then losing.

Any good strategies?

LOL and I just won a $160 in a hand while I'm typing this.

hahaha that's funny.

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money and having enough to keep playing

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Varius

Where are you playing at ?

I think the secret is patience.....wait for those good pocket cards. Also don't be afraid to fold even if you are in, you will lose less than calling until the end and losing double.

I'm also starting to see a pattern, that if I start winning a few hands in a row at a table, its best to leave and sit down at a fresh table. Otherwise I start losing......

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irishfury

play the odds...Know your outs and how many you have and compare them to what others could have based on the flop....and also watch the others betting habits...

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you need to know when and how to bully the rest of the table

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playing lots of hands, getting to know the opponents and by playing alot of hands, its more difficult for someone to read your hand... setup a preset amount, when you bet big, dont change that amount.. change tells the opponent something about ur hand

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Varius

Notes on others can help you win greatly....earlier at a 10/20 table, I noticed one guy who others kept folding to when he raised too much, and I beat him twice when I called him and he had nothing. The following few hands I kept raising him and beat him with a pair of 5s, then a pair of 9s. Then he left the table hehe....

Also those I see fold a lot on the pocket cards, or right after the flop, I note as 'not likely to be bluffing'.

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- patience
- calculating odds
- amount of money at the table
- table position
- know your opponents

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irishfury

exactly you will catch the people that will raise a hefty amount on the flop and if you call check on the turn alot of the times where trying to bluff the pot at first then get nervous that's when I push them for that money cause they hate losing what they already have in the pot.

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stocktrader23

If you have actually studied the numbers on poker already the only other thing you need is hours and hours on the tables to tweak your skills.

I've told people some easy to remember strategy that let them win consistently but to teach them to rock would be an almost full time undertaking. There are so many situations that can come up and so many ways to go about it.

You have a business mind though, you should pick up quick. It was like learning to tie my shoes.

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Varius

When I first started playing, once it was after the flop and I wasn't hitting what I needed, say for a straight or a flush, I used to keep calling until the end anyways since I had some money in I didn't want to lose.

Big mistake. Now I've learnt it's better to take half the loss

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Go for broke..go all in and bluff them

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Thats usually my strategy

brizzad

that's a pretty ignorant strategy considering its based on one deck that is shuffled every hand - the probability will always be the same

Varius

That may be true in real-life poker, but I assumed this thread was about online poker.

In which case there is a potential added factor here....there *could* be code whereby a player winning a lot starts to get worse pockets, or other implications so that other players stay happy and keep playing.

While I have no evidence of this, it is indeed possible and if you were to deny the possibility, who would be the ignorant one ?

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stocktrader23

1 deck is a very limited sample. Patterns are everywhere because of the small number of possibilities.

And online poker uses a constant shuffle.

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stocktrader23

No, I would say it would be ignorant to assume that anybody would bother to code something that tracks thousands of users and adjusts starting cards for every person on the table simply because one has won more than the other. This is especially true since the casino makes money on everybody regardless of if they win or lose. The undertaking that would be involved is so enourmous it would be rediculous to even consider it.

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It is impossible to consistently win when you gamble. There will come times when you play your hand perfectly and still lose.

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KRL

I've always been a pretty decent player and fairly lucky, but I get these streaks with hands that look good to go but then the cards turn sour.

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Varius

Well, if sharks keep turning off the casual player, then player loss does hurt the poker company's bottom line

Besides, after the software is done, what do their programmers really have to do with their time besides maintaining it?

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KRL

That's it. Playing well but getting outplayed by someone with just a hand one notch up.

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stocktrader23

It happens to everyone and nothing you can do. Statistics. The odds of things happening in poker aren't really uncommon when you look at them in depth.

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KRL

hmmmm, makes you wonder doesn't it. It wouldn't be too hard to code that either.

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Thurbs

heh - i wrote an ebook for people using either PartyPoker / Empire Poker. its more about the patterns I've observed over months of play etc. Its a pretty definative guide to hand tilting, shaved odds, etc.

let me know. I'm a daytrader with a business degree specializing in Stats so I'm not scribbling down the common knowledge.

irishfury

It's not about winning hand consitenly it's playing the hands with the best odds for you to win. Many nights you only win a few hands but if you play right you will make lots of money off those hands.

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stocktrader23

The software would be more enourmous than you are considering. Casual players always lose, you don't see the live casinos struggling because of it.

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stocktrader23

This is what I'm talking about. You took a statistics sample from a tiny number of hands and wrote a scam ebook about it?

Pardon me for cracking up at this.

Next time you are investigating party poker pay real close attention to the fact that the cards are pulled on the fly using RNG which means there are no patterns that shouldn't be there. The deck is constantly shuffled so the odds are always exact.

Funny thing is everyone I talk to that have "figured out the party poker patterns" are selling ebooks instead of living in the Bahamas on the millions of dollars they've made using their own strategy.

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Varius

I think you have a point there. Everytime I see someone selling an ebook or book or videotape on how to win, or how to get rich.....if they simply practiced what they preached they wouldn't need to work at selling their 'guide'.

I admit that many people do buy these things and thus the sellers do become rich....but rarely is it from what they are actually writing about

As for those who only do it because they became so rich and just want to help others like themselves.......why not give it away for free if you really want to be so helpful ?

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stocktrader23

It's the truth. They run around the poker forums telling you of all these patterns they discovered too. The human mind tries to find patterns in everything and they do exist. Unfortunately they are completely random. If you look at the odds of each situation that they talk about on party poker etc. the odds of it happening are usually equal to how many times their pattern shows up in a given time. Sad.

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Sly

I play very tight. When I start to stray I usually end up losing. Problem with playing as tight as I do is it takes several hours to get ahead, but the final result is the same, winning. Every poker night we have here at my place I usually do good as long as I play tight, but it takes a 5-6 hour night to win anything decent.

I don't know if this is common or not, I need to get more play time in for sure before the Vegas show.

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Got a link for some excerpts to read?

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fuzebox

There's usually 10 people give or take at the table... Meaning you should statistically have a winning hand 1/10 times. This means you'll have 9 chances to minimize loss, and only 1 chance to maximize your win. Concentrate on minimizing loss first.

At least that's what I do, and the only time I actually lose is when I stray from this.

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On a side note, I'm getting quite good at check-raising

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some of them are good at online poker..

takes them longer to learn - but once they GET something - LOOK OUT

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This is mostly true in no limit and short-handed play, though. Not many people win consistently playing loose at full ring limit tables unless the games are very juicy. I know you know that, but other people in this thread may not.

I think the biggest part of being a consistent winner in poker is learning to fold at the correct times. This doesn't mean folding a lot, but folding when it is correct to do so. 99% of low limit (and a nice percentage of mid- and high-limit) players simply blow off too many chips by chasing too much. It doesn't help when your pre-flop card selection sucks, either. You simply cannot play A6 under the gun and expect to come out ahead in the long run.

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