Horseshit.

Castro is very popular with the Cuban people... and no, I'm not talking about those in Florida.

Back that shit up... or is that just what they taught you in school?

Im just waiting for Deadfidel to wake up and post in this thread.......

You think Sanctions will make them rich? They were always poor and the people didn't even have healthcare and education. He won the hearts of the poor and fought with them to exile all the corrupt government that was running Cuba.

They then depended on the Sovs but that didn't last too long. As least he didn't pocket all the money like Fulgencio Batista.

Ah yes, that's why they filled THOUSANDS of boats to flee Cuba. Ever hear of the MARIEL BOATLIFT? How about the people that try to flee every damn year?

Oh, I forgot, you're Mr. Left. Reason and Facts don't apply to you. :1orglaugh

Keep bumping, buddy!

78 years old !! I really thought he was younger (or at least, a couple years younger :glugglug )

Hundreds of thousands of people try to flee their countries to get in to USA, Canada, Australia and the EU every year. It's called wanting a better life. You think everyone flees for fear of loosing their lives? They flee cause they are tired of living poor.

Many Cubans noticed that America was taking them in and lot's took the opportunity. You ever watch the movie "Scar Face"?

Yes that's when Castro got rid of the scum from his prisons and sent them to the USA. :1orglaugh

Of course there are always people wanting to flee developing countries to first world countries. This happens every day all over the world, not just in the 90 miles of water between Cuba and Key West. I know it's convenient to ignore that Cuba is virtually devoid of natural resources and that as a result their economy is largely agricultural, but hey whay let facts and reason get in the way, right? You also seem to be forgetting about the impact the US trade embargo has on the Cuband economy... but hey that would be facing more facts and reason, wouldn't it?

You Americans should get out of your country every once in a while and see things the way they really are, not just the way they seem on the television.

Keep sigwhoring! :1orglaugh

dude, don't take my name in vain unless you can stay home from school to argue during the day.:1orglaugh

50 fallen castros

hes getting into the extreme sports

Your stupidity flourishes like daisy's in the spring.

And well fertilized by heaping mounds of ideological bullshit.

good or bad... You have to respect a man that can rule a country for almost 50 years all the while thumbing his nose at the US.

Castro has some huge balls.

It's daisies, 'tard!

:1orglaugh

Says the idiot with his head planted in his arse.

I bet you've never even left the U.S.

:1orglaugh

You do know how large those countries are, right? You say this as if communism is dead.

For the record, there has never been a true Marxist communist government. We've only had pseudo-communist governments.

Yet people are risking their lives to flee FROM Cuba and flee TO the US..... Yeah, they're pretty comparable. :1orglaugh

uhuh

i thought this was gonna be how he fell out of power or he recently fucked up lol, we have another GW on our hands

It would have been funnier if it was Dubbya. :2 cents:

I know! I thought the same thing!

If he dies, he dies.


http://www.gmrmedia.com/dolph/galler...dolph-m176.jpg

Man hehehehe
I just saw the clip
Awesome :1orglaugh

Ok, you brainwashed ignorant and frustrated americans.
I lived in Cuba for half a year. Fidel is indeed hated by some, but loved by most Cubans. And even the ones that hate him, respect him.
The cry-babies Cubans in Miami were Batista supporters, a dictator that can be compared to Saddam.
Fidel is a dictator too but one that allows everybody to go to school for free, get free healthcare, a roof over their head and a minimum income. He killed by far a lot less civilians than George Walker Bush did and he is sending out a lot more real help to poor African countries even though Cuba is a relatively poor country themself thanks to the US embargo...
In short I prefer being poor in Cuba than poor in countries destroyed by the US like Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala where at night you can see shoeless children living on the streets. In fact I would even prefer to be poor in Cuba than poor in the US. In cuba there are no homeless.
And I do admit Castro's regime can be very frustrating for businessmen but it is a paradise for artists. They get full support from the government.
I have never met any people with such a joy of life as the Cubans. I travelled all over the world but there is no country with such highly educated people as the Cubans.
Castro has been making a complete fool of the US during the past 50 years. Viva Fidel! Respect!

it will be extremely hard for a 78 year old to recover from a broken knee. He may be in a wheelchair the rest of his life.

I think you are a complete peckerhead with most of the self serving "look at what a smarty Pants I am" bullshit........but this scored some cool ponts

classic line..... I did a spit take

I bet he dies while giving one of his marathon speaches but no one will notice since they will have all fallen asleep.

:thumbsup

Very good thoughtfull post.

I also should add, that cuba is only poor because americans could never forgive castro for re-appropriating american land to CUBANS.

Ever since that took place america has had a grudge against cuba .

If america let cuba thrive like every other country, good things would happen.

America is just afraid socialism might actually work, then all countries might stop letting 1% of the wealthiest people own 99% of the resources

[QUOTE]Originally posted by VeriSexy
[B]Castro is Hero

The Cuban Missile Crisis was one of the few times that the 'rules' of the Cold War were nearly forgotten. Berlin, Korea, Hungary and Suez - the 'rules' had been followed. But in Cuba this broke down and the Cuban Missile Crisis was the only time when 'hot war' could have broken out.

In the 1950?s Cuba was lead by a right-wing dictator called Fulgencio Batista. He dealt with opponents with extreme harshness and while a few prospered under his regime, many Cubans were very poor. He was not tolerant of communists and received the support of the Americans. Batista?s sole support within Cuba came from the army which was equipped by the Americans.

For some years, Havana, the capital of Cuba, had been the play ground of the rich from America. They would come to the island at the weekend to gamble - illegal in all parts of America except for Las Vegas at this time. Havana was considered more convenient for those living in the southern states of America. Large sums of money were spent but most was creamed off by Batista and his henchmen. Over $200 million was actually invested in Cuba itself. For all the money coming into Cuba, the poor remained very poor.

Some young Cubans, who had read about socialism and what it offered the poor, reacted against Batista?s corruption and oppression. Their first attempt to overthrow the government was a failure and the small group of rebels fled to the Sierra Mastra - a remote area of Cuba. Here they sharpened their tactics and used the most valuable weapon they had; educating the poor in their ways. They used the tactics of Mao Tse Tung by actually helping out the poverty stricken peasants on their land. These people had been used to abuse for years and here were young educated people actually helping them for free.

It was only a matter of time before the ?message? spread to other areas of Cuba and by 1959, the rebels lead by Fidel Castro felt strong enough to overthrow the government of Batista. This they easily achieved as they were aided by popular support.

Castro?s first task was to punish those who had abused the poor. Those found guilty were executed. He then nationalised all American firms in Cuba so that their wealth would be invested in Cuba itself rather than leave the island and go to multi-nationals in America. The money made from this measure was primarily spent on a national health system so that all medical treatment was free and on education. Castro also introduced major land reforms.

Some Cubans fled and went to live in Florida. These Cuban exiles were treated by some Americans as heroes and brought with them stories that outraged the American press. Most were false or exaggerated but this was ignored. America reacted by refusing to do any trade with Cuba whatsoever. This trade embargo would have bankrupted the island as her biggest money earner was exporting sugar to America. Up to this time, there is little evidence that Castro or Cuba had any real intention of teaming up with communist Russia. In 1960, Castro referred to himself as a socialist - not a communist.

However, the trade embargo brought the two together as Russia stepped in to buy Cuba?s sugar and other exports. The actions of America appear to have driven Castro into the support offered by Russia.

Now with a supporter of communism only 50 miles from Florida, the new American president - J F Kennedy - decided to give support to the anti-Castro Cubans who had gone to Florida. With CIA funding, a group of armed Cuban exiles tried to land in Cuba at the Bay of Pigs in 1961 with the sole intention of overthrowing the Castro government. It proved a fiasco - jeeps landed without fuel; no maps of the island being issued; Cuban exiles firing on Cuban exiles. But to Castro, this episode showed him where America stood in relations to Cuba. Kennedy did not apologise for America?s involvement in this event

After the fiasco of the Bay of Pigs episode, Cuba obviously felt threatened by her massively powerful neighbour. Castro started to look for a closer relationship with Russia who could offer her protection.

In Sept 1962, anti-Castro Cuban refugees reported to the CIA that there was a build-up of Russian bases in Cuba.

On October 16th 1962, a U2 spy plane took high level photographs over Cuba and the resulting photographic prints revealed what was obviously a base for missiles. These were later identified as being inter-mediate range missiles capable of carrying a nuclear payload.

On October 17th 1962 the CIA reported to the president that the 16 to 32 missiles identified could kill 80 million Americans as they had a range of 2000 miles with a flight time of just 17 minutes. While this was happening USA Intelligence reported that over 20 Russian ships were heading for Cuba with crates on board that obviously contained more missiles. They were not difficult to detect as they were being carried on deck in full view of US observer planes.

On October 25th 1962 more U2 photographs showed that the bases would be fully operational in a few days - at the latest by the end of October.

The threat to USA was very obvious. On October 27th the matter was made worse when a U2 was shot down by a Russian missile and the pilot killed.

In total, the Russians sent to Cuba 42 medium range missiles and 24 intermediate range missiles - which had a capability of 3500 miles. 22,000 Russian troops and technicians accompanied the missiles.

What should Kennedy do ?

He had already made a major mistake with the Bay of Pigs affair - now he could afford no such errors as the consequences would be disastrous for everyone.

He had essentially five choices............



1 He could do nothing and ignore the missiles. This would have been political suicide and if the Russians had seen this as weakness on his part, they could have taken advantage of it.
2 He could order a full scale military invasion of Cuba. This could lead to heavy US casualties and that would be politically damaging. It would almost certainly involve Russian casualties which could escalate the problem. The American chiefs-of-staff were not convinced that it would be successful either especially as the offending missile bases were in remote areas and most were well inland.
3 He could order an air strike against the missile bases only. The problem again would be Russian casualties and the Air Force was not sure it could deliver pin-point bombing raids on what were relatively small targets.
4 He could call on the Russians to remove the missiles explaining the damage their presence was doing to Russian/American relations. However, the Russians were highly unlikely to listen to a ?polite? request especially as they even refused to recognise the existence of the missiles at the United Nations emergency meeting on the matter.
5 He could put a naval blockade around the island - quarantine it - and not allow any more Russian ships to enter Cuba. This would still leave missiles on Cuba but the negotiations would continue in the background while publically Kennedy would be seen to be doing something specific.

Following American protests, Khruschev, the Russian leader, sent Kennedy two letters both of which sent conflicting messages.

One letter said that the missiles would be withdrawn if Kennedy promised not to invade Cuba.



So you communist fuck... you're telling me that My family that was assassinated on national television for having dinner at my father's house and doing nothing illegal was an exaggeration?>
or that family members were raped to anger my Grandfather and have him sign papers giving up his 12,000 acres of land?

Or holding my dad and his 2 year old sister in prison for 3 months until they agreed to stop anti castro suppoort... is that totally cool?

I'm sure you'll tell me Adolf Hitler was a hero and so was Stallin. Castro is in the same boat as those two fucks...
I'm not debating his intelligence, he is however evil.
It's not our fault that his mother was a whore and fucked her employer and then he was denied as a son to save the employer's marriage...

FUCK YOU... I Hope you announce your presence to me at a show I'll spit more information out at you