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tical 10-20-2004 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by Project-Shadow
Check with your doctor first, Creatine can cause gynecomastia .
Haha I've never heard this one before!

Creatine has nothing to do with your hormones

Bigwilly 10-20-2004 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by gornyhuy
Just a bit of advice from my experiences:
Creatine works great for a build/weight gain phase - in other words do NOT take the weight loss pills at the same time. You should do it in phases
1) go 3 months or so of heavy lifting and creatine and protein supplementation while eating properly for weight and muscle gain.
2) switch your workout entirely to a burn phase - drop the creatine and take the diet pills maybe and maybe a thermogenic of some kind to burn off that fat layer - do lots of "high intensity interval training" and aerobic workouts while not focusing quite so much on the heavy lifting.
Then repeat etc.

That way you build musle mass, burn fat, build, burn, etc.

If you try to do both at the same time you won't have enough fuel to really build muscle, and the water retention from the creatine will hide any fat burn you do.

:2cents

get some real advice www.bodybuilding.com i see health threads every day everyone means well but few actually know what they are talking about. Im not tryin to dog this guy but he gave you wrong advice reguarding creatine. To get the best possible results with creatine your suposot cycle it for no more than 4 weeks at a time with at least 4 weeks off inbetween. and make sure to drink allot of water when your cycleing creatine.

I strongly strongly strongly suggest you get some proper advice and go to that website and post in the forms and search.

Bigwilly 10-20-2004 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by The Dawg
Right on point. Creatine is a waste of money.
i have made gains useing creatine, however it depends on your body. Some people are unaffected by cycleing creating others make great gains

Bigwilly 10-20-2004 04:05 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Project-Shadow
Check with your doctor first, Creatine can cause gynecomastia .
ok i laughed when i read this one, im gonna stop reading this thread

Lace 10-20-2004 04:06 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Bigwilly
get some real advice www.bodybuilding.com i see health threads every day everyone means well but few actually know what they are talking about. Im not tryin to dog this guy but he gave you wrong advice reguarding creatine. To get the best possible results with creatine your suposot cycle it for no more than 4 weeks at a time with at least 4 weeks off inbetween. and make sure to drink allot of water when your cycleing creatine.

I strongly strongly strongly suggest you get some proper advice and go to that website and post in the forms and search.
yeah i plan on hittin up that site in a few. Just finished eating dinner..

Rice pilaf
Zesty Herb Chicken
Salad
and a roll.

James White 10-20-2004 04:13 PM
I use something called No2, its better than creatine. Works very similar, but in a pill form. You don't have to use sparatic portions of it, and it doesnt built mass water weight look. It builds your muscles quickly and still you'll have cuts. Your local nutritional store should reccomend it to you if they have any knowledge at all.

wvuatl 10-20-2004 04:17 PM
- eat healthy food, high in protein, every 2 hours
- take those sups you mentioned
- work out hard
- sleep 8 hours
- repeat

the only thing with creatine is that when you stop taking it you will loose almost all those gains... which you will hate mentally.

It may be un-healthy to take creatine... nobody knows for sure.

it takes time, but if you make it to the gym 4-5 days per week you'll start seeing some major changes :thumbsup

Bigwilly 10-20-2004 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by James White
I use something called No2, its better than creatine. Works very similar, but in a pill form. You don't have to use sparatic portions of it, and it doesnt built mass water weight look. It builds your muscles quickly and still you'll have cuts. Your local nutritional store should reccomend it to you if they have any knowledge at all.
most people dont use No2 any more because studies have shown that it is a relatively ineffective supplement, unless you have money to burn

Nismo 10-20-2004 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by James White
I use something called No2, its better than creatine. Works very similar, but in a pill form. You don't have to use sparatic portions of it, and it doesnt built mass water weight look. It builds your muscles quickly and still you'll have cuts. Your local nutritional store should reccomend it to you if they have any knowledge at all.
Don't waste your money on No2. It's basically just L-Arginine. Just buy bulk L-Arginine.

The Dawg 10-20-2004 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by Nismo
You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
You obviously dont know me.

loverboy 10-20-2004 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by Lace
Actually good to know since I drink a hella lot of soda during the day.

Time to switch back to water all day every day.



How about lite beer?
definitely hard to break that beer intake

Nismo 10-20-2004 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by The Dawg
You obviously dont know me.
No, I don't know you. I do know, however, that I personally have made serious gains with creatine, aswell as several people I know also.

The only people that I've come across that said the same thing you did were people who took it incorrectly and didn't see any significant gains with it.

Lace 10-20-2004 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by loverboy
definitely hard to break that beer intake
:glugglug


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