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Crypt 10-20-2004 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
Huh?

I'm not sure I follow you on either statement.

Every registrar, if they are smart and know what people are willing to pay for access to the registry connections when names drop - is earning decent money for selling that access.

It would be hard to find one that isn't in that game now - if you could even find one at all.

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Registration blacklist? In what sense? Like...if the domain is registered with a company that sells out during drop times to a domain snapping company then you want to punish all of that registrars customers who have no idea about any of this?

I think maddox want the free 5k$ to ;)

maddox 10-20-2004 02:20 PM

free 5k for what?

goBigtime 10-20-2004 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by Crypt
:thumbsup

No fake registrars then ;) Almost the same deal ;)
Thank you for the part i was wrong with ;)


You're missing the point.... they aren't fake registrars. Well, some are constantly "under construction" but keeping up with their dues or whatever.... but I would think they can only do that for so long before ICANN will can them.

I think the main reason that domain snapping people are willing to pay others who WANT to become registrars is because there are a certain number of requirements that must be met in order to become, and continue to be a registrar.

If it was easier to start new companies and do it themselves than it is to pay someone $X/month then they would just do it themselves.

johndoebob 10-20-2004 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
Huh?

I'm not sure I follow you on either statement.

Every registrar, if they are smart and know what people are willing to pay for access to the registry connections when names drop - is earning decent money for selling that access.

It would be hard to find one that isn't in that game now - if you could even find one at all.

----

Registration blacklist? In what sense? Like...if the domain is registered with a company that sells out during drop times to a domain snapping company then you want to punish all of that registrars customers who have no idea about any of this?

Getting ICANN accredited isn't free:

http://www.icann.org/registrars/accr...financials.htm

An indian company pays as much as an american even if that amount of money is more in india.

With registration blacklist I ment to blacklist all expiering domains so they get a huge delay or an order could not be proccessed.

goBigtime 10-20-2004 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crypt
I think maddox want the free 5k$ to ;)

Here you go....

Become a registar

In addition to demonstrating that you have the technical skills and business plan required to operatate a registrar...

You'll need a cash deposit,
And Irrevocable standby LOC from your bank,
and a security bond -- IIRC it was around $75,000 to $100,000 minimum for the year.

It takes money to make money :winkwink:

Crypt 10-20-2004 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
You're missing the point.... they aren't fake registrars. Well, some are constantly "under construction" but keeping up with their dues or whatever.... but I would think they can only do that for so long before ICANN will can them.

I think the main reason that domain snapping people are willing to pay others who WANT to become registrars is because there are a certain number of requirements that must be met in order to become, and continue to be a registrar.

If it was easier to start new companies and do it themselves than it is to pay someone $X/month then they would just do it themselves.

Yes, i got the point.

My "fake registrar" point was about the ugly templates and the no support from thoose registrars. Like thoose registrars were used only to snap domains.

I know you need lot of stuff to become one, "fake" was not the good word for it.

The "fake" was about the same ppl controling all of them or take over access on all of them to snap domains, like you explained.

Gynecologist 10-20-2004 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
Here you go....

Become a registar

In addition to demonstrating that you have the technical skills and business plan required to operatate a registrar...

You'll need a cash deposit,
And Irrevocable standby LOC from your bank,
and a security bond -- IIRC it was around $75,000 to $100,000 minimum for the year.

It takes money to make money :winkwink:

If you are a registrar how much does each .com domain cost you?

goBigtime 10-20-2004 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
Getting ICANN accredited isn't free:

http://www.icann.org/registrars/accr...financials.htm

An indian company pays as much as an american even if that amount of money is more in india.


Right.... which is why it is important that people getting into the registrar business actually WANT to become a registrar.

However, if you are in India, your monthly overhead will be much lower than in the states (ie, salaries of IT staff)

So having a benefactor that is willing to assure that you make a profit every month in exchange for exclusive access to a certain function of your service without really effecting your service as a whole... could be seen as a good thing.

goBigtime 10-20-2004 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by Gynecologist
If you are a registrar how much does each .com domain cost you?
As far as I know - $6

johndoebob 10-20-2004 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gynecologist
If you are a registrar how much does each .com domain cost you?
Depends, but as far as I know ~5$ for the bigger ones.

goBigtime 10-20-2004 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime

You'll need a cash deposit,
And Irrevocable standby LOC from your bank,
and a security bond -- IIRC it was around $75,000 to $100,000 minimum for the year.

Sorry... my error, you don't need all 3.

You just need one of the above for the amount that will cover at least the required minimum for your first year (which I think is USD $75,000+/-)

johndoebob 10-20-2004 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
As far as I know - $6
Would be too less profit for the real discount ones (eNom high volume, Directi, dotregistrar etc.).

goBigtime 10-20-2004 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
Would be too less profit for the real discount ones (eNom high volume, Directi, dotregistrar etc.).

Maybe they have a special deal then.

But I'm not so sure about that.

It could be some sort of loss leader or other formula where they know if they have X registrations in bulk, it will give them Y registrations above $6 (from the added exposure of climbing up the "Top Registrars" ladder)

No idea.


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