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Old 10-19-2004, 12:32 PM   #1
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Trax- what is your account number

your thread about posting xpays stats only shows some webalizer log and seems very suspicious.
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Old 10-19-2004, 12:35 PM   #2
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Old 10-19-2004, 12:36 PM   #4
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this is not exactly fair- i need to see if you were sending to HotelHeiress or the drm. I need to check your referral urls and which creative you used. Also I want to see the country specific logs to determine what countries you are "listed" in. Also- we have some special full page ads for special people. You come to the board like this without working with us and it appears to be nothing more than a smear job.
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Old 10-19-2004, 12:37 PM   #5
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we have 1:225 on our adwords buys even today and that is right around how they always do, even with all the bot's out there.
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Old 10-19-2004, 12:40 PM   #6
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i show no accounts for "Trax" or "extremepaychecks"
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Old 10-19-2004, 12:51 PM   #7
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actual unaltered (other than removing the host id) 1 day stat of PURE search traffic affiliate (not a house account)

5412 uniques - 15 hotelheiress sales, 2 drm sales
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dude, i am sure he will be back

he posted his first post at 6:25am last post at around 1:30pm

that sounds like a work day right there

you do realize some people have other shit to do

you should have something that monitors the boards for the words xpays
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Old 10-19-2004, 12:54 PM   #10
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dude, i am sure he will be back

he posted his first post at 6:25am last post at around 1:30pm

that sounds like a work day right there

you do realize some people have other shit to do

you should have something that monitors the boards for the words xpays
except it is malicious to post webalizer stats, no actual XPays stats, and fail to write in to our support for assistance.
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Is it true that there is 2 other Paris hilton videos out there? besides thatone we've all seen...

I heard she's doing it with 2 black guys in one video???
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Old 10-19-2004, 12:55 PM   #12
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I can post dozens of SE accounts and my adwords account conversions and they are consistent.
Furthermore, if anyone ever suffers a poor conversion- write or call us and we can usually show you why.
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Old 10-19-2004, 12:56 PM   #14
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Is it true that there is 2 other Paris hilton videos out there? besides thatone we've all seen...

I heard she's doing it with 2 black guys in one video???
There are other videos with her- none of the others are licensed however.
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there is like 20 vids out, lol

Maybe her "Simple Life" ratings are dropping so she needs another publicity bump
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except it is malicious to post webalizer stats, no actual XPays stats, and fail to write in to our support for assistance.
yeah, i agree with that, but it did take you all almost 9 hours to even jump in there and say anything

depending on where he is, he could be asleep now and just given up...usually you all are instantly in there when xpays is mentioned, but this time it took forever

when you all always jump in instantly when the xpays name is mentioned, and then all the sudden are gone totally from the board when something like this happens it isn't consistant
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Here is another affiliate with a little less traffic on a daily basis. I would post his referral url's so you can see all the google in there, but I do not want to step on his exact search terms.

1394 Uniques (front page as always)
1 drm and 5 HotelHeiress
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Another 100% google placement-
2412 uniques - 9 sales
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I think we got your point, give the guy some time to respond ;)
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I think we got your point, give the guy some time to respond ;)
Nobody here gave XPays time to respond before posting competing unauthorized illegal sites.
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I think we got your point, give the guy some time to respond ;)
the "guy" deserves no courtesy whatsoever- which is the same amount the guy showed XPays.
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All of stats I have posted here are completely unaltered except to remove the affiliate id. All reporting is real-time entry uniques as well.
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Nobody here gave XPays time to respond before posting competing unauthorized illegal sites.
but those people aren't who your targetting in this....the original guy was Trax, and you all took almost a full work day in hours to respond when you all normally respond instantly...so others jumped in and filled the gap you left
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but those people aren't who your targetting in this....the original guy was Trax, and you all took almost a full work day in hours to respond when you all normally respond instantly...so others jumped in and filled the gap you left
No- I want everyone who saw Trax's vague and ambiguous post to see some REAL STATS.
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Cut XPAYS some slack. The guy posted on a public board stats that slammed their program, they certainly have a right to respond and defend themselves. Obviously there is a problem with either TRAX account, or the way he is promoting the program.
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And another distinct affiliate who is an seo.

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Cut XPAYS some slack. The guy posted on a public board stats that slammed their program, they certainly have a right to respond and defend themselves. Obviously there is a problem with either TRAX account, or the way he is promoting the program.
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I doubt too many will actually trust somebody who doesn't show actual affiliate stat screenshots with ID.
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I doubt too many will actually trust somebody who doesn't show actual affiliate stat screenshots with ID.
I grabbed and pasted in and blocked out the id as we respect confidentiality and se hijackers could use info to do their dirty work of hijacking results too. I did not alter a single bit of data.
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Nobody here gave XPays time to respond before posting competing unauthorized illegal sites.
no time to respond?

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No- I want everyone who saw Trax's vague and ambiguous post to see some REAL STATS.
I managed to generate a real screenshot of his stats.

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no time to respond?

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Trax did not write in or call in and I was entertaining clients yesterday. I am here now addressing Trax's post. It is not my fault he is not here to respond.
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I grabbed and pasted in and blocked out the id as we respect confidentiality and se hijackers could use info to do their dirty work of hijacking results too. I did not alter a single bit of data.
That wasn't regarding you but Trax, I have no reason to go against you.
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Trax did not write in or call in and I was entertaining clients yesterday. I am here now addressing Trax's post. It is not my fault he is not here to respond.
It's not very proffesional either ;)

Anyway, not my problem so I am out of here.

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Xpays converts great for us. We do quite a few HH sales every day.

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It's not very proffesional either ;)

Anyway, not my problem so I am out of here.

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In Trax defense there is not a way to do a stats shot for multiple days of data in xpays webmaster stats.

Just looking at a few days I get 1:1000 on my raw. noy super for se traffic but there is so much of it who cares.
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Just hang on some more dude, I'm sure Trax will appear over here....
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I found Trax's account-

ALL OF HIS TRAFFIC IS IMAGE TRAFFIC and is the FREE LOADER traffic of the SEO world. He should turn up the volume on it or send it elsewhere.

His referral log for today shows:


# http://www.eniro.se/query?what=show_...jpg&w=94&h=102 - 415
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...26sa fe%3doff - 64
# http://www.eniro.se/query?what=se_pi...iew&w=94&h=102 - 62
# http://www.parishiltonvideotapes.com/ - 43
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...26sa fe%3doff - 37
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...utput%3dsearch - 24
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dn - 20
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...utput%3dsearch - 20
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...26sa fe%3doff - 19
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dg - 17
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dg - 15
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...utput%3dsearch - 14
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dn - 12
# http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...26sa fe%3doff - 9
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dn - 9
# http://www.eniro.fi/query?what=show_...jpg&w=94&h=102 - 9
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...earch%26sa%3dg - 8
# http://www.eniro.se/query?what=show_...4&h=102&cf=spy - 8
# http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...3doff%26sa%3dg - 7
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dg - 7
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...ch&frame=small - 7
# http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...utput%3dsearch - 6
# http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...utput%3dsearch - 6
# http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=www...om&fr=ieas-dns - 6
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dn - 6
# http://images.google.com.au/imgres?i...26sa fe%3doff - 6
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...utput%3dsearch - 6
# http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...utput%3dsearch - 6
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...earch%26sa%3dn - 6
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...8%26safe%3doff - 5
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...ff&frame=small - 5
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...8%26safe%3doff - 5
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...d%26safe%3doff - 5
# http://www.aolimages.aol.fr/image?qu...rst=13&last=24 - 5
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dn - 5
# http://images.google.com.au/imgres?i...26sa fe%3doff - 4
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also- a lot of his traffic is foreign.
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Well there is no excuse for my bad stats.Xpays has already looked at them and suggested I would see a marked improvement going over to HH.hehe There has ben no improvement but basicallyI aint got the time to waste on non converting sponsors to wrry about it.
I have too many sponsors that do convert.
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your thread about posting xpays stats only shows some webalizer log and seems very suspicious.
i don't think Trax had some conspiracy against us. a lack of communication is underneath all this and hopefully Trax and us can find the secret sauce together to monopolize his traffic for paris searches.
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Well there is no excuse for my bad stats.Xpays has already looked at them and suggested I would see a marked improvement going over to HH.hehe There has ben no improvement but basicallyI aint got the time to waste on non converting sponsors to wrry about it.
I have too many sponsors that do convert.
no offense - but if you generated as much traffic as the amount of whining you generate in every thread relative to us- you would have a lot more sales.
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I found Trax's account-

# http://www.eniro.se/query?what=show_...jpg&w=94&h=102 - 415
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...26sa fe%3doff - 64
# http://www.eniro.se/query?what=se_pi...iew&w=94&h=102 - 62
# http://www.parishiltonvideotapes.com/ - 43
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...26sa fe%3doff - 37
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...utput%3dsearch - 24
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dn - 20
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...utput%3dsearch - 20
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...26sa fe%3doff - 19
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dg - 17
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dg - 15
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...utput%3dsearch - 14
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dn - 12
# http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...26sa fe%3doff - 9
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dn - 9
# http://www.eniro.fi/query?what=show_...jpg&w=94&h=102 - 9
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...earch%26sa%3dg - 8
# http://www.eniro.se/query?what=show_...4&h=102&cf=spy - 8
# http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...3doff%26sa%3dg - 7
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dg - 7
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...ch&frame=small - 7
# http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...utput%3dsearch - 6
# http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...utput%3dsearch - 6
# http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=www...om&fr=ieas-dns - 6
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dn - 6
# http://images.google.com.au/imgres?i...26sa fe%3doff - 6
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...utput%3dsearch - 6
# http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...utput%3dsearch - 6
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...earch%26sa%3dn - 6
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...8%26safe%3doff - 5
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...ff&frame=small - 5
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...8%26safe%3doff - 5
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...d%26safe%3doff - 5
# http://www.aolimages.aol.fr/image?qu...rst=13&last=24 - 5
# http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3doff%26sa%3dn - 5
# http://images.google.com.au/imgres?i...26sa fe%3doff - 4
... oh no, now the copy cats will come.
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Old 10-19-2004, 02:03 PM   #48
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Trax waived his ref url privacy and the list of url's I posted was meant as Proof to my explanation. It is justifiable under the circumstances.
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Old 10-19-2004, 02:04 PM   #49
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how come you're so positive you found HIS account? Give the guy some time to respond man, you're not behaving like a professional sponsor. Oh well I guess you've proven you are no prof. sponsor in the past
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Old 10-19-2004, 02:08 PM   #50
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how come you're so positive you found HIS account?
because the webmaster who referred trax called me and gave me his account number so i could research it.
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