"The government watches GFY constantly!"

[PiksalDesign]

.. quoted from another thread.

Ironic, because I also have this arial photo....




They're watching....

[PiksalDesign]

Other thread.


http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...adid=373011&s=

[goBigtime]

that photo says a lot.

[PiksalDesign]

Originally posted by goBigtime
that photo says a lot.

If you could add 2 and 2. You'd know the answer already.

Ready the thread topic veeeery carefully. Dont hurt yourself.

[Steen2]

[sumphatpimp]

all internet traffic goes through govrnment super computers, instant messengers,email and boards especially.

they look for keywords and phrases.

[PiksalDesign]

Originally posted by sumphatpimp
all internet traffic goes through govrnment super computers, instant messengers,email and boards especially.

they look for keywords and phrases.

Thank you Captain Obvious!

[sumphatpimp]

your welcome troll

[PiksalDesign]

Originally posted by sumphatpimp
your welcome troll

I have a fan.

[Wiggles]

hey that was my quote, i rule

[WhoGivesaShit]

the governments of at least 15 different countries are watching you right now

[RuthXtremePay]

Originally posted by sumphatpimp
all internet traffic goes through govrnment super computers, instant messengers,email and boards especially.

they look for keywords and phrases.

And so they have a team of just how many to monitor all those occasions where someone uses a keyword such as 'bomb' or 'drugs' or something like that?

And if they're tracking email, IM, and forums, then do we notice this tracking through bandwidth? or are they like ghosts or something.. ?

I'm a very paranoid person but I'm also intelligent enough to understand the capability of the government to monitor the ENTIRE INTERNET. Yes, perhaps there are supercomputers, but those supercomputers have to spit out the information to somewhere right? And eventually that info has to go to a human being and then be determined that it's something that needs follow-up... and THEN acted upon! (and who knows the legality of this info gathering anyways)

Just think of the numbers.. I mean, I know they have budget, and I'm sure they have hidden budgets all over the place.. but the likelihood is probably over 50% in your favour that if you're discussing something 'illegal' or 'treasonous' or 'terrorist-oriented' that you're NOT going to have the government come knocking on your door anytime soon.

Have you heard the complaints from the US government agencies that they don't have enough funding? Think about it.. think about how many spammers there are, and how many have been brought to the courts, police, etc etc. How many illegal things do you see on the net each day? How long do some of those sites that should be banned TAKE to be banned?

In an ideal world - those who perform or are planning to perform illegal or hate or anything like that activities would be captured at first thought.. but unfortunately, we don't live in an ideal world.

It's smart to be safe and there are plenty of encryption programs out there for your email and IM convos, but in the final analysis, the government (any government) just doesn't have the ability to monitor every single person and every single conversation, every post, every email..

Well, that's my opinion anyways..

[xenophobic]

Originally posted by sumphatpimp
all internet traffic goes through govrnment super computers, instant messengers,email and boards especially.

they look for keywords and phrases.

Don't buy the hype.
Using huge hash tables, this job would still be outside the scope of possibilty, and passive scanning of computer conversations etc. would take some huge computer power.
What about point to point communications like fiberoptic, do the government monitor that too?

I think the government might monitor SPECIFIC data, people and places however ALL?

[nichecontentguru]

Originally posted by Wiggles
hey that was my quote, i rule

Hello, you are all over the adult boards

[hova]

thats news

[TheJimmy]

Originally posted by sumphatpimp
all internet traffic goes through govrnment super computers, instant messengers,email and boards especially.

they look for keywords and phrases.

so now i'm picturing that scene from Meet the Parents...



'bomb bomb bomb....in WWII I was a bombadier..."

[PiksalDesign]

Originally posted by TheJimmy
so now i'm picturing that scene from Meet the Parents...



'bomb bomb bomb....in WWII I was a bombadier..."

Great movie for sure.

[CET]

Originally posted by xenophobic
Don't buy the hype.
Using huge hash tables, this job would still be outside the scope of possibilty, and passive scanning of computer conversations etc. would take some huge computer power.
What about point to point communications like fiberoptic, do the government monitor that too?

I think the government might monitor SPECIFIC data, people and places however ALL?

Ever hear of Carnivore?

[xenophobic]

Originally posted by CET
Ever hear of Carnivore?

LOL sys admin in training asks this? was carnivore tapping the whole internet, or was it placed at SPECIFIC ISP's to capture SPECIFIC data?

[mardigras]

Originally posted by RuthXtremePay
(and who knows the legality of this info gathering anyways)

Where have you been the past few years? The Patriot Act gives them all the authority they need. And if they succeed getting the
"Domestic Security Enhancement Act" (aka Patriot Act II) pushed through it will strengthen it's powers.

The PA can be twisted to regulate the internet. It was recently used to take down some media activist websites.
http://www.ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=25889

[RuthXtremePay]

Originally posted by mardigras
Where have you been the past few years? The Patriot Act gives them all the authority they need. And if they succeed getting the
"Domestic Security Enhancement Act" (aka Patriot Act II) pushed through it will strengthen it's powers.

The PA can be twisted to regulate the internet. It was recently used to take down some media activist websites.
http://www.ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=25889

Canada eh?

[mardigras]

Originally posted by RuthXtremePay
Canada eh?

agents from the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) issued the subpoena to Rackspace, the U.S.-owned web host.

"This is not an isolated incident. It's part and parcel of a campaign by the U.S. government to use other governments to push their agenda -- some of us call it 'policy laundering'," said Barry Steinhardt, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's programme on technology and liberty.

[Cman]

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh wait, i'm canadian, i don't fucking care

Semi related matter: 2257 doesn't seem to be doing much so far. Anyone remember Y2K?

[cold_ice]

Well some folks say "its the bomb" all the time.

[Head]

Lets do a test:
"Suck My Big Hairy Dick Government!!"




























I'll let you know what happens!

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by sumphatpimp
all internet traffic goes through govrnment super computers, instant messengers,email and boards especially.

they look for keywords and phrases.

got's us some real wenner's on GFY .

ever stop 2 think, how many people they would have 2 have working just to look
at the AOL, ICQ, MSN msg.s

Must have the whole of China working for the US Gov.

fucking moron

[Fred Quimby]

Have you ever seen the 16 acre computer 'farm' in langley VA?

[jawanda]

Originally posted by RuthXtremePay


In an ideal world - those who perform or are planning to perform illegal or hate or anything like that activities would be captured at first thought.. but unfortunately, we don't live in an ideal world.

Damn dude, ever seen 'Minority Report' or read 'Fahrenheit 451' ??? .. the Thought Police and shit.

That is NOT an ideal world!

-p

[Claude]

Originally posted by RuthXtremePay
And so they have a team of just how many to monitor all those occasions where someone uses a keyword such as 'bomb' or 'drugs' or something like that?

And if they're tracking email, IM, and forums, then do we notice this tracking through bandwidth? or are they like ghosts or something.. ?

I'm a very paranoid person but I'm also intelligent enough to understand the capability of the government to monitor the ENTIRE INTERNET. Yes, perhaps there are supercomputers, but those supercomputers have to spit out the information to somewhere right? And eventually that info has to go to a human being and then be determined that it's something that needs follow-up... and THEN acted upon! (and who knows the legality of this info gathering anyways)

Just think of the numbers.. I mean, I know they have budget, and I'm sure they have hidden budgets all over the place.. but the likelihood is probably over 50% in your favour that if you're discussing something 'illegal' or 'treasonous' or 'terrorist-oriented' that you're NOT going to have the government come knocking on your door anytime soon.

Have you heard the complaints from the US government agencies that they don't have enough funding? Think about it.. think about how many spammers there are, and how many have been brought to the courts, police, etc etc. How many illegal things do you see on the net each day? How long do some of those sites that should be banned TAKE to be banned?

In an ideal world - those who perform or are planning to perform illegal or hate or anything like that activities would be captured at first thought.. but unfortunately, we don't live in an ideal world.

It's smart to be safe and there are plenty of encryption programs out there for your email and IM convos, but in the final analysis, the government (any government) just doesn't have the ability to monitor every single person and every single conversation, every post, every email..

Well, that's my opinion anyways..

http://archive.aclu.org/echelonwatch/faq.html

[Intrigue]

that link says 'sattelite traffic' and to the guy that mentioned carnivore, carnivore = in simplest terms, a zip drive attached at certain isps & software

[xenophobic]

Originally posted by Intrigue
that link says 'sattelite traffic' and to the guy that mentioned carnivore, carnivore = in simplest terms, a zip drive attached at certain isps & software

DCS1000/Carnivore is only allowed to capture certain subscriber information too, if static then by IP address, or if DHCP it will sniff RADIUS sessions to find new IP, + Email sessions, there are way better methods + tools in opensource, dsniff, IMHear,altivore, angst, ettercap etc.

A long cry from capturing all traffic, using some regex magic on all internet traffic looking for keywords, in some clandestine underground NSA lab, while I do imagine certain places/people are tracked/tapped I don't believe the whole Internet is, the job would be mammoth scale, evidently however terrorists are using encryption/stenography to protect communications, so they evidently believe it.

It is ironic that people believe that the U.S government can do all this internet recording, extract information etc, dropping little bits of your IM's in a folder named "Investigate" when in reality the U.S cannot even secure it's networks in the D.O.E, Pentagon etc. from attack/penetration, also look at the sigint the NSA/CIA said they monitored before September 11th, it didn't exactly make my knee's quake.

minus tinfoilhat plus thinkingcap.

[pornguy]

<------ Wearing my tinfoil hat and for extra protection my tinfoil condom.

[PiksalDesign]

Originally posted by PiksalDesign
.. quoted from another thread.

Ironic, because I also have this arial photo....




They're watching....

For those that didnt get it the first time.

This is an arial photo of the address specified by the
whois information of the gfy domain.

[xclusive]

so what if they fucking do? I am not doing anything illegal are you? If not don't worry, if so you should...

[mardigras]

Originally posted by xclusive
so what if they fucking do? I am not doing anything illegal are you? If not don't worry, if so you should...

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

[maxjohan]

After 9/11 we track everything.

[CheneyRumsfeld]

you are being watched