JJJ

While surfing for cheaters I came across this one. Seems like it redirects for every 4 or 5 visitor to the url, just refresh it a few times and you will see.
http://www.amateurkate.com/08/nova/f.html

redirects here http://www.horneychic.com/pop/poppics.html and there is an exit pop to http://www.persiankitty.com/?aid=klient

this shit is going to be hard to stop and sucks bigtime.

I am also really curious why that guy is exiting to pk?


JJJ
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Lane

it redirected me almost everytime



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Seems like they hid the script code for the redirect. Maybe it's host-based. A lot of cheating homepage changers/bookmarkers no longer use scripts inside their pages but seem to use server based scripts.

Theo

and then i wonder why i cant listed on pornno. 30pics/1 text link, but 75% of the traffic lost this way

probably the exit page to PK is done in order to trick surfers and give the impression of trading.

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SykkBoy

30 pics and a text link? Fucking christ, maybe you didn't get listed due to JJJ not wanting to fuck your bandwidth and make you even less money...

This is why conversions are down people! 30 fucking pics and ONE text link? I hope that it was the holy mother of all text links...otherwise, JJJ did you a favor...



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RockDaddy

Well, they just got added to my 12 page blacklist.

RD

Unfed

indeed Soul_rebel

put 50 pics up with almost no advertising and you'll get listed next day.

i really don't understand why they approve galleries like that. i mean, it's obvious. this guy's gonna cheat. how can anyone afford 30 pics' bandwidth bill with almost no advertising.

tgp owners don't approve clean 12 -15 pic galleries while there're soopa clean 30 - 50 pic galleries and these folks redirect the hell out of it. i have to say "i don't give a flying fuck!"

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Theo

you got my point Unfed,many tgp owners seek for the less ads on a gallery,even 0, but this has also negative results in cases like this. The idea is the following: if the surfer won't click on galleries ads, probably he'll click on my tgps or on my galleries that are overloaded with ads. And always they'll exist webmasters that with the one or another way will be able to afford galleries having 30pics and one text link.

Theo

i'm not the one that does these experiments, but it you spend some time surfing on big tgps you'll see many webmaster doing it and always get listed.

Pete

How fuckin stupid are people? It would be a lot easier if you just play by the rules.

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Xtc-PegCash.com

Some things never cease to amaze me, "The Free Content we are providing them with" I am sure no matter how large or small a Tgp is, all the webmasters (that have a clue) will have the same feeling when it comes to that statement and the cheating fucking assholes that go along with it. Shove your shitty cheating content, you forget without Tgp's cheating clowns would have no place to show their content, it's the circle of life, sadly those who cheat on galleries are simply clueless. If we didnt recieve any galleries, we would simply list/create our own. You feel the need to be needed, but sadly your not.

Xtc

Xanobyte

Hmmm, interesting. But if you've got 600 recips to group into three's and spread out over 200 html pages, now you're talking about a unique cgi script for each one of those as well. Seems like alot of extra work when you consider that most of us don't submit a gallery and then pull it down in a week after we've been blacklisted off the planet only to create yet another redirecting piece of gallery shit. I'm not saying the script doesn't do what it was created to do, but wouldn't it be much easier and profitable in the long run to simply play by the rules?



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JJJ

If you dont like the rules of a tgp you dont submit to it, you dont cheat them.

I think alot of people dont realize that these cheaters are fucking things up for everyone. How many big sites only list galleries from trusted or known webmasters. pretty soon they will only list their own galleries and galleries from people they absolutely trust.

there are some domains that i come across that i know will never cheat, and of course they are going to get the better placements for their gallery.

better that than getting fucked over by the losers that cant make money honestly.

JJJ

Xanobyte

I can agree with most of this... I trimmed it down a little...) but I also think that the bulk of the hardass TGP rules (mine included) have been born out of frustration with dumbasses trying to submit a gallery with every single trick in the book scripted into it. I've gotten submissions with popups, blind links, redirects, scripts, autobookmarkers, and home page changers ALL IN THE SAME PAGE! And while I am extremely liberal with what I will and will not accept, due to the fact that alot of people have zero choice but to use freehosts with their own gob of banners and shit, I refuse to put up with all the fucking sneaky underhanded bullshit that people try to slip by the system. There's no reason for it. If a surfer wants to visit your sponsor, he will. If you send him to a page that explodes into ten full-size uncloseable windows... do ya think he's EVER gonna visit your shit again or have anything to do with your sponsors? I sure as hell wouldn't.
So the rules, I believe, are hard for this reason. Yes, some are to the point of being ridiculous, but if the TGP is huge enough to demand that you can't have more than two text links on your gallery, then guess what... you either have two text links on your gallery or you don't get listed. There are ten thousand gallery makers lined up right behind you waiting for that slot.
BTW, I have a TGP and I also submit, so I'm on both sides of the debate, as many others are. Maybe TGP4 will show more promise.



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Nobody,

WHen I said what I said it was'nt aimed at you, I dont know you, and you may very well make great galleries. The sad part is, that regaurdless of the rules I am sure cheaters would be cheating as they have been forever now, it's the easy, lazy, slug way. I not only run 15 Tgp's but I also make a gallery and hand submit it everyday to over 150 Tgp's, I don't use a script and I keep my sponsor links to a min. Im sure there are webmasters that run Tgp's that hate my stuff, and im sure there are plenty that like it, either way I go with what I think is right, not cheating. I might not like the rules on the roads I drive on, or the cities I live in, but I don;t go out of my way to fuck'em or the people that made the rules.

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CDSmith

You DON'T wanna know the answer to that

My well-educated guess would be:

6 billion+ people on planet Earth, 5 billion of which are total fucking morons.

Sound too harsh? Try reviewing my gallery submissions for a few days and you'll think otherwise.
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CD Smith - I have to agree. You might even be a little too generous.

I used to make that not so funny joke about "Did you know half the people are below average intelligence?" Most people don't get it.

Job Applications I have reviewed are pathetic. I wonder how the IRS ever gets anything done - they must get millions of forms filled out wrong. I can't believe the number of people that can not follow basic instructions. You have to be VERY smart in designing things for the average person.

It has been a while, but I bet I could throw out about 70% of Job apps for either not being able to spell words such as then/than to/too or for filling out blanks to questions that only required a response to an affirmative response to the question above. Do I want someone that can't write/spell at a middle school level or can't follow instructions working under me?

The sad thing is - these people go through life never realizing it. They are clueless. They are the same people that show up in court without even dressing up. And I am not talking about poor people that can't afford it either.

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Rocky

i agree with you 100% JJ


i'm spending most of my time blacklisting galleries or searching other BBS's to find out who's on other people's cheater list

what i don't understand is how a cheater can figure they're going to make more money on a one shot deal than with trusted and well positioned galleries that make their way into archives and allow for a continual partnership

i figure most cheaters must be newbies, part-timers or as CD Smith pointed out, "total fucking morons"

ldinternet

Hey Rocky,

It would be helpful if Rocky's Thumbpost didn't go crazy every other day ... there's a consistent problem with your submit form! Also on thumbz.com and xxx123 same problem.

my6com

JJJ, maybe you should try to have a webspider to check the site a few times a day if the file changes you get a mail so you can check it out.

easy done in Perl, but you need to be able to do crontab jobs on your server.

that would catch most of the cheaters

/my6

Rocky

ldinternet, i think you're confusing me with someone else


nothing wrong with my submit page at Rocky's Porn Palace

ldinternet

Whoops, you're right, I'm wrong. I'm thinking that you're the guy from Rocky's Thumbpost... sorry about that.

McPornGuy

hmmm... that must be what im getting on my tgp a lot latly. people keep submitting pages as cheaters i look at them and they seem fine. guess i will have to start refreshing them 10 times to check.

Thanks JJJ

Gemini

Doesn't that BullWinkle guy run Rocky's Thumbpost as a knockoff?

Odd shaped head he has...

Xanobyte

I am very interested in this my6... if you could explain how I can set this up for my site, that would be most cool! Do you have some kind of ready-made perl script set up?



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SexClicks

Funny thing.....

All the TGP Owners Make Their Own Galleries......Why?

Because We dont get Fucked by ourselves...hahahahhahahahahha

I am sorry, but JJJ is totally right, alot of us have been here along time....I remember when all galleries where clean period........Now 75 per cent of them cheat, atleast it feels like that....

What kills me , is i remember someguy writing about the auto bookmark...and then goes on about how he doesnt cheat or anything , but tried it for a week......well, shit, we all know it was fucked from the beginning.....and yet I tried it for a week....must be one of those morons CD was talking about.

Bottom Line.......Alot of new gallery makers trying to make a quick buck...but where does the buck stop.......It has gotton to the point that you dont even post anybody you dont know....

Pretty sad , when our blacklist is longer then the daily submissions.......

Just my half penny..............



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my6com

Originally posted by Xanobyte:

I am very interested in this my6... if you could explain how I can set this up for my site, that would be most cool! Do you have some kind of ready-made perl script set up?

I have written a script that will do almost what your looking for so it's wouldn't take much time to rewrite it to do this, check if your server is unix based and if so mail me and we could have a look on it.

/my6

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my6com

and btw, this shit doesn't need to be server based, just SSI or whatever.

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Xanobyte

My server is sitting right next to my right foot.
I'm running Apache.

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my6com

ok mail me and we will have a look on it.

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