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sexeducation 10-16-2004 09:48 AM

You are given the right to decide what you will do with your life.

Don't think "God" doesn't care.

The choice is yours.

Manowar 10-16-2004 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Abyss_Vee
everyone is their own god
thats a good philosophy

neverlearn 10-16-2004 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Kindly leave the discussion. We are not on the topic of your sex-related social problems. You have your sites to discuss such issues.
He has good points though that you chose to ignore...thus proving him right.

I did not read your long post. Why would I??? your posts are based on hate. your hate and you said it yourself.

I knew you would back down from my dare.
I so knew it. and you sir are so owned.
now lets see how angrier you get...

lazycash 10-16-2004 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I post this type of question from time to time because religious idiots keep posting their opinions here. Hopefully, someday, they'll read some of the things I've written (like the stuff in that really long post a few posts back) and start thinking for themselves, finally freeing their minds of the trash that has been put there by other religious idiots.
It just seems quite ironic that you're doing the very thing you hate radical Christian fundamentalist doing, mocking other's beliefs. Using belittling words like "Santa Claus", fairy tales, trash, ignorant, ridiculous etc... only cause your point to fall on deaf ears. I understand you have a lot of bitterness over your son being a believer as a result of your ex and the friction its caused in your relationship with your son, but why take that bitterness out on everyone who doesn't believe as you do?

It sounds like from previous posts that you're a great father and provider for your son. Don't get so consumed by the fact that your ex is raising him with Christian values that it causes you to be filled with anger and bitterness. I can think of a lot more harmful ways a mother could be raising their son.

If you're truly seeking answers to the questions you've posed, then you know as well as I do this is not the place. It appears all you want to do from time to time is vent and mock those that don't believe as you do. Did some recent incident initiate your tirade today? Did your son ask you again if you believed in Jesus?

sexeducation 10-16-2004 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Kindly leave the discussion. We are not on the topic of your sex-related social problems. You have your sites to discuss such issues.

I am discussing whether your fantasy version of an "all power" is the correct one.

Your position reminds me of a joke ...

A priest is thrown overboard and finds himself on a raft in the ocean. He prays to God - "please save me".

A helicopter comes by and drops a ladder - but the priest pushes it away and says - God will save me.

A freighter comes by and yells to the Priest on the raft - you need help? - the priest replies NO [saying to himself God will save me].

The Coast Guard comes by and asks if he needs help and the priest once more replies - NO.

When he dies - he asks St.Peter - why did you let me die on the ocean?

St.Peter says - we sent a helicopter, a freighter and the coast guard.

; )

Donny 10-16-2004 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by neverlearn
He has good points though that you chose to ignore...thus proving him right.

I did not read your long post. Why would I??? your posts are based on hate. your hate and you said it yourself.

I knew you would back down from my dare.
I so knew it. and you sir are so owned.
now lets see how angrier you get...


You are acting like a typical Christian. Instead of answering YOURSELF, you want me to go on a board somewhere and give you a link so that you can be TOLD by SOMEONE ELSE what the answers are...

I challenge you to read my post and come up with your OWN answers. You have your own brain, don't you? You really don't need others to answer for you, do you? Or are you, like 90% of all the other christians out there, incapable of coming up with your own beliefs until you're TOLD what you believe?

TheSaint 10-16-2004 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
If there was really a being that cared about each and every one of us so much that he knew the number of hairs on our heads and wanted to have a personal relationship with each of us (as the Bible claims) why in the world would he sit by and let very young children be raped, beaten, killed, and made to suffer many other horrible atrocities?
There is a simple explanation:

God is a sadist.

I made the choice a long time ago after spending 4 months in a Ronald McDOnald house watching children die of cancer that god, if he exists, is not somebody I want to know.

I'll take my chances with Lucifer.

Donny 10-16-2004 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by lazycash
It just seems quite ironic that you're doing the very thing you hate radical Christian fundamentalist doing, mocking other's beliefs. Using belittling words like "Santa Claus", fairy tales, trash, ignorant, ridiculous etc... only cause your point to fall on deaf ears. I understand you have a lot of bitterness over your son being a believer as a result of your ex and the friction its caused in your relationship with your son, but why take that bitterness out on everyone who doesn't believe as you do?

It sounds like from previous posts that you're a great father and provider for your son. Don't get so consumed by the fact that your ex is raising him with Christian values that it causes you to be filled with anger and bitterness. I can think of a lot more harmful ways a mother could be raising their son.

If you're truly seeking answers to the questions you've posed, then you know as well as I do this is not the place. It appears all you want to do from time to time is vent and mock those that don't believe as you do. Did some recent incident initiate your tirade today? Did your son ask you again if you believed in Jesus?


My son is 4 years old. There is no religious friction between us. Maybe someday there will be, but that time has not yet come.

My ex-wife is the world's best mother.

As for seeking answers to these questions: I've asked numerous pastors. They all come up with the same answers, in fact, I usually send them a second email and make them promise not to read it until after they've answered the questions from the first. In the second email, I put down what I guess they will answer. I've never been wrong. I already know their answers. Why? Because they are sheep, too. They all get their answers in seminary from the same sources. And all of their answers are vague generalities. They can't come up with logical, scientific answers.

The closest religious group with the best scientific answers so far has been, sadly, Kabbalists (www.kabbalah.com).

Donny 10-16-2004 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by TheSaint
I made the choice a long time ago after spending 4 months in a Ronald McDOnald house watching children die of cancer that god, if he exists, is not somebody I want to know.
Exactly.

sexeducation 10-16-2004 10:01 AM

WE allow ...
and in particular this room allows ...

the worlds worst sexual peversion to exist.

But this room - yes - this room - with all it's contacts - and all the playa's ....could wipe out FGM in a few years ...

Completely wipe it out.

God & the MasterBlooger is telling you this is true.

wiped out with a single EMBARRASING GLOBAL CAMPAIGN that only the adult industry could launch which such force it would overwhelm those searching for "sex" on the internet.
IMO

Donny 10-16-2004 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
WE allow ...
and in particular this room allows ...

the worlds worst sexual peversion to exist.

But this room - yes - this room - with all it's contacts - and all the playa's ....could wipe out FGM in a few years ...

Completely wipe it out.

God & the MasterBlooger is telling you this is true.

wiped out with a single EMBARRASING GLOBAL CAMPAIGN that only the adult industry could launch which such force it would overwhelm those searching for "sex" on the internet.
IMO

Oh yes, I can see the adult industry becoming political activists. When was the last time you were at an adult webmaster convention? Do you honestly think ANYONE would "follow" the people you have met there?

neverlearn 10-16-2004 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
You are acting like a typical Christian. Instead of answering YOURSELF, you want me to go on a board somewhere and give you a link so that you can be TOLD by SOMEONE ELSE what the answers are...

I challenge you to read my post and come up with your OWN answers. You have your own brain, don't you? You really don't need others to answer for you, do you? Or are you, like 90% of all the other christians out there, incapable of coming up with your own beliefs until you're TOLD what you believe?

So are typical Christians on this board? I did not know I bet theres Christians here though...
Actually truth be told...I have seen miracles in my own life and have experianced them first hand. Some large, some small and some in retrospect.

I read the post from lazycash above and did not know your family situation until then...but you know..he is SO right, I can also think of other ways your ex could be raising your child. You should thank God shes not a junkie or something. I think you should take some time yourself and ask yourself these questions of these questions of yours. Its obvious your upset, but is it serving you some sort of service?
Come on man, be real

sexeducation 10-16-2004 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Oh yes, I can see the adult industry becoming political activists. When was the last time you were at an adult webmaster convention? Do you honestly think ANYONE would "follow" the people you have met there?
The adult industry responds to over 75% of the searches for sex on the internet.

The adult industry BY A VAST MAJORITY does not believe the clitoris of pre-adolescent girls should be cut off.

Yes - the adult industry could wipe this fucking evil peverison from the face of the planet.


IF the major players simply posted a stop sign with FGM on it.

Just "stop FGM"... and a link to the United Nations or perhaps NOHarm.org ...
???

neverlearn 10-16-2004 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
The adult industry responds to over 75% of the searches for sex on the internet.

The adult industry BY A VAST MAJORITY does not believe the clitoris of pre-adolescent girls should be cut off.

Yes - the adult industry could wipe this fucking evil peverison from the face of the planet.


IF the major players simply posted a stop sign with FGM on it.

Just "stop FGM"... and a link to the United Nations or perhaps NOHarm.org ...
???

HOsting is a bigger presence on the net, and thats an obious one . Porn always thinks it is the shit. but it aint.

sexeducation 10-16-2004 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by neverlearn
HOsting is a bigger presence on the net, and thats an obious one . Porn always thinks it is the shit. but it aint.
Don't quite follow your point of view.
Please clarify?

Donny 10-16-2004 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by neverlearn
So are typical Christians on this board? I did not know I bet theres Christians here though...
Actually truth be told...I have seen miracles in my own life and have experianced them first hand. Some large, some small and some in retrospect.

Why are you on an adult webmaster board? There is a scripture that says something like: "To him who knoweth the truth, and doeth it not... to him it is sin".

You know you shouldn't be here. If you TRULY believed the Bible, you wouldn't be. You are being very hypocritical by being here, don't you think?

By the way, my father was a pastor. I've been raised in it all my life.

lazycash 10-16-2004 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
My son is 4 years old. There is no religious friction between us. Maybe someday there will be, but that time has not yet come.

My ex-wife is the world's best mother.

As for seeking answers to these questions: I've asked numerous pastors. They all come up with the same answers, in fact, I usually send them a second email and make them promise not to read it until after they've answered the questions from the first. In the second email, I put down what I guess they will answer. I've never been wrong. I already know their answers. Why? Because they are sheep, too. They all get their answers in seminary from the same sources. And all of their answers are vague generalities. They can't come up with logical, scientific answers.

The closest religious group with the best scientific answers so far has been, sadly, Kabbalists (www.kabbalah.com).

I was referring to the friction between you and your ex over the way she is raising him with Christian values. You didn't address the first part of my post, why continue to mock those that don't believe as you do? Some believe, some don't , its that simple, no need for namecalling and continuous disparaging remarks. You continue to try and put limits and apply scientific reasoning to something that is for the most part, unscientific.

sexeducation 10-16-2004 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
The adult industry responds to over 75% of the searches for sex on the internet.

The adult industry BY A VAST MAJORITY does not believe the clitoris of pre-adolescent girls should be cut off.

Yes - the adult industry could wipe this fucking evil peverison from the face of the planet.


IF the major players simply posted a stop sign with FGM on it.

Just "stop FGM"... and a link to the United Nations or perhaps NOHarm.org ...
???

The answer is ...
God is not allowing these evils to exist.

We are - it's our choice.

TheSaint 10-16-2004 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by sexeducation
WE allow ...
and in particular this room allows ...

the worlds worst sexual peversion to exist.

<snip>

Fuck off. On my web site we spank and ass fuck teenage girls, don't call that a perversion that's healthy spirtual shit and good for the posture too.

Donny 10-16-2004 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by lazycash
I was referring to the friction between you and your ex over the way she is raising him with Christian values. You didn't address the first part of my post, why continue to mock those that don't believe as you do? Some believe, some don't , its that simple, no need for namecalling and continuous disparaging remarks. You continue to try and put limits and apply scientific reasoning to something that is for the most part, unscientific.
The tone of my messages probably does not encourage my target audience to read what I've written and think about it, you're right.

But I can easily answer the "why" part of your question. Why do I keep asking "believers" these questions? Simply to give back to them what they've given to others. They believe they need to "go into all the world preaching the gospel to every creature". I, in turn, amuse myself by going to every Christian and asking them questions from the Bible that I KNOW they cannot answer. Many of them try to answer, only to get frustrated and eventually give up. But I have caused a handful of them to begin to doubt their beliefs. To question what they've been told all their lives. I love it when that happens. I feel like it's giving them a taste of their own medicine.

When was the last time you asked a Christian to knock on your door? I don't recall ever asking anyone to knock on my door and try to "save my soul".

When was the last time you asked a Christian to demean a girl that had posed nude for you, making her feel worthless and horrible about herself, simply because she posed nude? I see it happen. Christians seem to forget their "what would Jesus do" saying when ragging on some girl that has posed for me. I've seen more than one girl ripped to shreds by Christians because she posed for me. I hate hypocrisy. The word "Christian" means "like Christ". Do you think this Jesus they profess belief in would treat models like shit? No... there are examples ("Let those of you without sin cast the first stone" comes to mind).

Most, not all, Christians use Christianity to make themselves feel better than others. I love to tear them down by making them face questions they don't want to answer.

Serge Litehead 10-16-2004 10:26 AM

god does not love, nor does hate
why would it disalow something that people do to each other? when it's clearly their (people's) choice.

in roman times weak and sick children were thrown of cliffs; why is that? in many countries parents sell their kids to slavery and prostitution.


why "god" must care at all?

sexeducation 10-16-2004 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by TheSaint
Fuck off. On my web site we spank and ass fuck teenage girls, don't call that a perversion that's healthy spirtual shit and good for the posture too.
Good website!
No aroused genitals or reproductive fluids on your homepage.
Rated with ICRA.org ...

A sexual fantasy website that respects the rights of others to the information highway.

Not only that - it's probably high converting ...

congrats ...

good job

that is how you make money ...
http://www.fareastmedia.com/nopop.html

fine fine example ...

Donny 10-16-2004 10:32 AM

Okay, time to get off the computer and go see my son. I'll look back in on this thread later.

neverlearn 10-16-2004 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by sexeducation
Don't quite follow your point of view.
Please clarify?

ya , I misunderstood the post ...

Serge Litehead 10-16-2004 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Okay, time to get off the computer and go see my son.
:thumbsup

sexeducation 10-16-2004 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
Good website!
No aroused genitals or reproductive fluids on your homepage.
Rated with ICRA.org ...

A sexual fantasy website that respects the rights of others to the information highway.

Not only that - it's probably high converting ...

congrats ...

good job

that is how you make money ...
http://www.fareastmedia.com/nopop.html

fine fine example ...

And 2257 compliant ...
awesome awesome awsome ...

Good job ...
keep up the good work.

Adults have a right to reasonable access to the information age as well.

You've nailed it my friend - nailed it dead on.

I doubt you will have any CC processor problems.

neverlearn 10-16-2004 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Why are you on an adult webmaster board? There is a scripture that says something like: "To him who knoweth the truth, and doeth it not... to him it is sin".

You know you shouldn't be here. If you TRULY believed the Bible, you wouldn't be. You are being very hypocritical by being here, don't you think?

By the way, my father was a pastor. I've been raised in it all my life.

Yes it does weigh on my heart. And yes I shouldnt be here. But I find the humour on this board amusing and I get the odd design job on here from time to time.
But read this...
I AM A SINNER
I have never read the whole Bible.
I have never read the whole Testament
Yet I believe GOD exists and That JESUS is the Son of God and died for my sins AND I BELIEVE I AM NOT PERFECT.
I dont need to explaining why I believe this to you as you do not NEED to explain your hate to me.
If your fighting with GOD. And your Dad and Mom are Christians (YOUR DAD A PRIEST) and your children and Ex are Christians and your filled with hate and anger and misery...I would say this
God is kicking your ass six ways to Sunday and theres a reason for it.
I am gonna leave this thread now because it is getting ridiculous...
Honestly, I wish you the best and hope things work out for you
all things aside I really mean that.
I have been through a divorce and I have a child that doesnt live with me, so I do know what its like.
So go placidly.
peace

Sarah_Jayne 10-16-2004 10:50 AM

how many of you in here that are saying you believe in God ask him for forgiveness for working in this industry?

Serge Litehead 10-16-2004 10:51 AM

I don't understand how Jesus, the Son of God, died for your sins

sexeducation 10-16-2004 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc
how many of you in here that are saying you believe in God ask him for forgiveness for working in this industry?
Not me ...
I thank God for the opportunity to help.

neverlearn 10-16-2004 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by holograph
I don't understand how Jesus, the Son of God, died for your sins
He knew what was going to happen to him before he sacrificed himself. And paid for the sin of man with his blood and pain.

or...do you mean my sin personally

Serge Litehead 10-16-2004 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by neverlearn

or...do you mean my sin personally

how could he have died for men's future sins? that i dont understand.

Serge Litehead 10-16-2004 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by neverlearn
He knew what was going to happen to him before he sacrificed himself. And paid for the sin of man with his blood and pain.
He figured he's going to die anyway, so why not take hit for everybody, maybe it will work? :)

neverlearn 10-16-2004 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by holograph
He figured he's going to die anyway, so why not take hit for everybody, maybe it will work? :)
Its a lot more complex than what I said simply.
check this out if you want to know details
go to google.com
type in "Why did Jesus die for our sins?"
you'll get some hits all right

Paul Markham 10-16-2004 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by ninavain
because we've been given choices and a soul...those that do such deeds will face the punishment...There is evil so we know what is good. Life is a game and you have the choice of what to do with it...when things like this happen, you question God's existance, you lack faith, which will also bring darkness into your life. Every evil deed can cause a catalast to another person's soul to better themselves and do good to other people, so that evil deed never happens again..if you choose to ignore another's cry for help, then you are as bad as the person commiting the evil deed.

It's easy to blame...but why not try to better yourself and help.

These webmasters in porn are blessed with great wealth and jobs they can do from home, but most become overweight or can not maintain a good relationship...or feel something missing..even though they can buy anything they like..sometimes you have to help others that need it the most. Then that sets your soul free..

What a totasl crock of shit. The question was why does God allow children to be abused, what has that got to do with the abuser having a soul?

Answer, God does not exist he was a solution to primitives lack of knowledge and a way by which rulers could keep us under control.

Some, as the above poster show, are easier than others.

neverlearn 10-16-2004 11:21 AM

this thread is symbolic

sexeducation 10-16-2004 11:23 AM

Sorry - we are not just molecules of randomness.

Serge Litehead 10-16-2004 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by neverlearn
Its a lot more complex than what I said simply.
check this out if you want to know details
go to google.com
type in "Why did Jesus die for our sins?"
you'll get some hits all right

ok, I will google that some day.
but one more Q:
is it ok for men to sin because its all paid for by Jesus?

sexeducation 10-16-2004 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
What a totasl crock of shit. The question was why does God allow children to be abused, what has that got to do with the abuser having a soul?

Answer, God does not exist he was a solution to primitives lack of knowledge and a way by which rulers could keep us under control.

Some, as the above poster show, are easier than others.

You believe "God" is a characture ... and hell as "fire burning in eternity" ...

That is not what God is about.

I don't believe in RELIGIONS - I believe in a God - a spirit.

neverlearn 10-16-2004 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by holograph
ok, I will google that some day.
but one more Q:
is it ok for men to sin because its all paid for by Jesus?

lol,

better yet go to kazaa.com and type in
Blind melon - holyman

I was born on the banks off a hot muddy river
The child of one stupid steamy night
Born to roam beneath the sun
What do you think of me, I'm better left alone
I met a Holyman that said that he knew the way
And he'd like to show me so my life won't go astray
Take my hand child now little boy don't you be afraid
I'll take your soul and walk on water
Holyman, ya don't understand
The cuts on me they run much deeper
Holyman, you righteous man
I've been shown the way a thousand times
Not one a keeper
Older man he said I'll tell you boy
You've planted rotten seeds
And in a land of happiness
They'll grow us evil trees
Guided minds, and eyes that will never see
Holyman I'll tell you
Just what it is that I believe
Holyman I tell you man you gotta
Believe in what you see
Cause its you that corrupt us man and
Deep throat philosophy
I don't need your spells or the little
Games you try to pull on me
Come to think of it I don't need your religion
Gotta get away
I wish you would understand
Everybody prays
Let me find my own way













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