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Centurion 10-16-2004 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by D_Nell
Good Michael Moore's movie is a load of crap and everything in it is lies, lies, lies. 28 points in his movie are complete BS.

MICHAEL MOORE IS A GODDAMN WAR PROFITEER AND IF IT WAS SO TRUTHFUL HE SHOULD HAVE SHOWN IT FOR FREE TO EVERYONE!

Fucking morons who believe this movie are usually the same people voting for Kerry. PRETTY FUCKING IGNORANT - 82% of Kerry supporters are voting for one Reason - I hate BUSH. WOW seems to me Bush is the lesser of 2 evils and if this is the main reason then this country is fucked!
Dayummm..you sound desperate! Your candidate in trouble or something? :1orglaugh

Centurion 10-16-2004 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by helis
78.45% of statistics are made up on the spot :)
Bullshit! 91.3% of the time you're wrong!

BRISK 10-16-2004 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by Centurion
He said last nite on Leno that the movie had made over 1/2 billion worldwide.
1. That's not proof that it has

2. 100% of gross sales do not go directly to Micheal Moore's bank account.

Centurion 10-16-2004 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by BRISK
1. That's not proof that it has

2. 100% of gross sales do not go directly to Micheal Moore's bank account.
no..he has not pocketed 1/2 bil. but that film has done damn good!

Furious_Male 10-16-2004 07:26 PM
Who cares what he has made with the film. The bottom line is the anti-Kerry film gets to air on national TV and his film cant even air on PPV where the individual has to decide to purchase the film. Talk about republican pressure. This is bullshit.

helis 10-16-2004 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by Centurion
Bullshit! 91.3% of the time you're wrong!
hmm you listed a % so it must be right :)

directfiesta 10-16-2004 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by kenny
http://www.fahrenhype911.com

That movie will point out that many.
OK, then how about 10 points....

directfiesta 10-16-2004 07:37 PM
First link gave a whole big opinion ... fine, but nothing proving lies.

Bext link about Columbine, not on topic.

Last link, no details of the claims .. how anbout you post a bit of the flick... that is if you ever saw it....

directfiesta 10-16-2004 07:45 PM
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FAHRENHEIT 9/11: The White House censored 28 pages of the Congressional 9/11 report.

* ?Top U.S. officials believe the Saudi Arabian government not only thwarted their efforts to prevent the rise of al-Qaida and stop terrorist attacks, but also may have given the Saudi-born Sept. 11 hijackers financial and logistical support, according to a congressional report released Thursday. Those suspicions prompted several lawmakers to demand that the Bush administration aggressively investigate Saudi Arabia 's actions before and after Sept. 11, 2001 -- in part by making public large sections of the report that pertain to Riyadh but remain classified. The passages, including an entire 28-page section, discuss in detail whether one of America's most reluctant allies in the war on terrorism was somehow implicated in the attacks, according to U.S. officials familiar with the full report.? Josh Meyer, ?Saudi Ties to Sept. 11 Hinted at in Report,? Houston Chronicle, July 25, 2003.
That should explain who lies...

SmokeyTheBear 10-16-2004 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by slavdogg
you're a sheep
go watch the movie
I'm not watching some propaganda film that i know nothing about.

Your the sheep that seems to think everything on t.v. is real..

I know nothing about the movie and nothing about the guy who made it or any of the people involved in it.

the real 9/11 movie , i know lots about and have seen this mans work before.

Rich 10-16-2004 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by directfiesta
OK, then how about 10 points....
3?

Rich 10-16-2004 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by D_Nell
PRETTY FUCKING IGNORANT - 82% of Kerry supporters are voting for one Reason - I hate BUSH.
94% of statistics are made up by ignorant people.

kenny 10-16-2004 07:53 PM
83?

Rich 10-16-2004 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by suesheboy
Let's hope you are right.
I'm almost always right.

Rich 10-16-2004 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by kenny
83?
name 2

kenny 10-16-2004 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by Rich
name 2
I watched both movies.

You can do the same.

There are many more then just "two"

Rich 10-16-2004 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by kenny
I watched both movies.

You can do the same.

There are many more then just "two"
I have have watched them, I've also looked into the claims made in both movies. You do the same and then point out 2 parts of farenhype that prove anything in Moore's movie to be false. Grab some balls and think for yourself.

directfiesta 10-16-2004 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by kenny
I watched both movies.

You can do the same.

There are many more then just "two"
For every ONE " lies" you point out, I will post TWO " thruths" of 9/11 ....

Good odds no????

Till now, you guys just claim, but can't back it up....

kenny 10-16-2004 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by Rich
I have have watched them, I've also looked into the claims made in both movies. You do the same and then point out 2 parts of farenhype that prove anything in Moore's movie to be false. Grab some balls and think for yourself.

There is a bunch listed here:

http://www.davekopel.org/Terror/Fift..._United_States


However, I am not going to waste anymore fucking time on this.

Debating this is like trying to pail the water out of the ocean.. nothing will come of it.

tony286 10-16-2004 08:19 PM
This cant be true the media is liberal remember lol

xApster 10-16-2004 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by BRISK
He hasn't made over $500 million on that movie. Not even close to that much.
On Leno he said it made over that ...

directfiesta 10-16-2004 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by kenny
There is a bunch listed here:

http://www.davekopel.org/Terror/Fift..._United_States


However, I am not going to waste anymore fucking time on this.

Debating this is like trying to pail the water out of the ocean.. nothing will come of it.
LOL ... run away, kid....

From your link ( randomly selected):

Quote:
Bush and Prince Bandar

Deceit 17



Moore points out the distressingly close relationship between Saudi Arabia?s ambassador, Prince Bandar, and the Bush family. But Moore does not explain that Bandar has been a bipartisan Washington power broker for decades, and that Bill Clinton repeatedly relied on Bandar to advance Clinton?s own Middle East agenda. (Elsa Walsh, "The Prince. How the Saudi Ambassador became Washington?s indispensable operator," The New Yorker, Mar. 24, 2003.)

So by NOT stating that Bandar was .... , it makes untrue the statment that the Prince Bandar has a close relationship with the Bush family.... ???

Were does Moore Lies??? Moore and his movie has an agenda, and he is making his point... that doesn't make it lies because you don;t like it ...

kenny 10-16-2004 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by directfiesta
LOL ... run away, kid....

From your link ( randomly selected):




So by NOT stating that Bandar was .... , it makes untrue the statment that the Prince Bandar has a close relationship with the Bush family.... ???

Were does Moore Lies??? Moore and his movie has an agenda, and he is making his point... that doesn't make it lies because you don;t like it ...
Saudi royal family has had a close relationship with the US period.

Prehaps you should finish reading it

"What is misleading is for Moore to look at the web of Saudi influence in Washington only in regard to the Republican Bushes, and to ignore the fact that Saudi influence and money are widespread in both parties."


While it isn't a direct lie he uses the information to mislead in the overall aspect

directfiesta 10-16-2004 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by kenny
Saudi royal family has had a close relationship with the US period.

Prehaps you should finish reading it

"What is misleading is for Moore to look at the web of Saudi influence in Washington only in regard to the Republican Bushes, and to ignore the fact that Saudi influence and money are widespread in both parties."


While it isn't a direct lie he uses the information to mislead in the overall aspect
I read it all, thank you....

And you just confirmed what I am saying : misleading, deceit, propaganda, one sided view and so on...

But no LIES ...

If this is lying, then what was the State of the union speech ????
A necklace of lies ????

kenny 10-16-2004 08:49 PM
What Moore did for his film was take bits and pieces of film and information and edit them in a way to make Bush's intentions and policies look as bad as possible.

While there might not be any direct lies the film is misleading.

For a quick example the film mentioned Bush was on vacation 42% of the time.

Moore came up with this number by counting weekends and the times the president was at camp David.

Bush wasn't in the white house 42% of the time.

Not a lie, just misleading

directfiesta 10-16-2004 08:56 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by kenny
What Moore did for his film was take bits and pieces of film and information and edit them in a way to make Bush's intentions and policies look as bad as possible.

While there might not be any direct lies the film is misleading.

For a quick example the film mentioned Bush was on vacation 42% of the time.

Moore came up with this number by counting weekends and the times the president was at camp David.

Bush wasn't in the white house 42% of the time.

Not a lie, just misleading
Seems he has one point in common with Bush.... misleading...

The only difference, his " misleading" brought in 200 million, not cost 120 billion ...
And no one died, to my knowledge, watching his movie...

kenny 10-16-2004 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by directfiesta
Seems he has one point in common with Bush.... misleading...

The only difference, his " misleading" brought in 200 million, not cost 120 billion ...
And no one died, to my knowledge, watching his movie...
Almost everything regarding politics is misleading and propaganda.

I am not saying Bush is good or Moore is bad or what the fuck ever

I am just trying to point out the F911 isn't some great source of factual information.

BRISK 10-17-2004 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by xApster
On Leno he said it made over that ...
I said "he" hasn't made over $500 million from the movie.

Someone posted before saying that he (Micheal Moore) has made over $500 million from the movie.

Centurion 10-17-2004 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by BRISK
I said "he" hasn't made over $500 million from the movie.

Someone posted before saying that he (Micheal Moore) has made over $500 million from the movie.
GEEZ! Let's bicker over the fact that *I* posted he had made over $500 million from the movie why don't we.

Yes I said that..I should have SAID.."THE MOVIE has made over 500 million"...good grief..let's all get so damn politically correct on our sentence structure. lol

crowkid 10-17-2004 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by Rich
94% of statistics are made up by ignorant people.
Rich, that comeback was so weak...I just wanted to let you know....try harder next time.....



























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uno 10-17-2004 02:06 AM
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Originally posted by crockett
I don't see how in reality.. it's common knowledge that Bush and co are pushing for stricter standards on TV and radio and everywhere.. They are pushing major fines on the media outlets for what they conceder indecency. I don't see how having Bush in office could be a good thing for the media companies.. In fact I can't believe they are not doing everything in their power to help push Bush out.
One word:

Deregulation.

uno 10-17-2004 02:07 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by D_Nell
Good Michael Moore's movie is a load of crap and everything in it is lies, lies, lies. 28 points in his movie are complete BS.

MICHAEL MOORE IS A GODDAMN WAR PROFITEER AND IF IT WAS SO TRUTHFUL HE SHOULD HAVE SHOWN IT FOR FREE TO EVERYONE!

Fucking morons who believe this movie are usually the same people voting for Kerry. PRETTY FUCKING IGNORANT - 82% of Kerry supporters are voting for one Reason - I hate BUSH. WOW seems to me Bush is the lesser of 2 evils and if this is the main reason then this country is fucked!
By "points" do you mean the parts with his personal opinion and dot connecting?

Jace 10-17-2004 02:44 AM
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Originally posted by Centurion
He said last nite on Leno that the movie had made over 1/2 billion worldwide.
Domestic: $119,114,517
Overseas: $97,000,000

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/...renheit911.htm

Centurion 10-17-2004 02:45 AM
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Originally posted by JaceXXX
Domestic: $119,114,517
Overseas: $97,000,000

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/...renheit911.htm
Then it is your duty as an American citizen to go sue his ass off for lying!

Cassie 10-17-2004 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by Centurion
Was really suprised to hear the news from Michael Moore tonite on Leno that his movie that was supposed to be aired on a "pay per view" type of channel on cable called "On Demand" the night before the election has been pulled.

He said he had a contract and everything signed but that Comcast or WHOEVER he negotiated with backed out of it saying it was "too political" and thus too many legal issues to be shown then.

What did they think they were getting when they first agreed to this..a cooking show?

But Moore has offered the Sinclair stations who are going to air the anti-Kerry movie HIS movie, free of charge to air on their 62 stations to see if they really are "fair and balanced."

Man..the airwaves and those who own them are whacked sometimes.
that's very odd because the president of Comcast openly stated on Bullseye that he will be voting for Kerry.


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