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  • WickedVenus
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2004
    • 3877

    #1

    My domain registar stole 2 of our domains

    I was so mad!! Our company bought 20 domains last week. We then get an email from them to day saying that when we purchased them, that their database was messed up at the time, and two of the domains that we bougt we already sold. We went over to see who owned them, and the company that we used for registar is the registered owner of them. I have gotten screen captures of both them registering it the day after we purchased them, and also showing that the domiains are still being parked with them.
    I also contacted I-Cann. We have already made logos, and banners, and sites for these domiains.

    Anyone else know what else to do for domain theft?
    SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.
  • strats
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Feb 2004
    • 1805

    #2
    vote nader

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    • WickedVenus
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2004
      • 3877

      #3
      Originally posted by strats
      vote nader
      KERRY!
      SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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      • Dagwolf
        President of Canada
        • Sep 2003
        • 23141

        #4
        Ouch! Which registrar was that?
        Sleep well, and dream of large women.

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        • WickedVenus
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2004
          • 3877

          #5
          Speedy Domain Registration. I have screen captures and proof of when we bought them. , also proof of when they registered them to themselves.
          SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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          • nofx
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Nov 2002
            • 16826

            #6
            godaddy? would seem like typical behavior for them.

            Often times I wonder why
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            When sickness comes I must decide:
            When feelings go, theres suicide.

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            • kenny
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2002
              • 7245

              #7
              What domain registar did you use?
              7

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              • WickedVenus
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2004
                • 3877

                #8
                Originally posted by kenny
                What domain registar did you use?
                Speedy domain registration
                SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                • Dagwolf
                  President of Canada
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 23141

                  #9
                  Originally posted by WickedVenus
                  I
                  I also contacted I-Cann. We have already made logos, and banners, and sites for these domiains.

                  Anyone else know what else to do for domain theft?
                  Sounds like a good start.
                  Sleep well, and dream of large women.

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                  • WickedVenus
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 3877

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dagwolf
                    Sounds like a good start.
                    IM so mad!! But no sense getting upset about it I gueese just a weeks worth of work down the drain
                    SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                    • Dagwolf
                      President of Canada
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 23141

                      #11
                      Originally posted by WickedVenus
                      IM so mad!! But no sense getting upset about it I gueese just a weeks worth of work down the drain
                      That would upset me. Whether you make a lot or a little, a week's work is a week's work.
                      Sleep well, and dream of large women.

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                      • Manowar
                        jellyfish  
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 71528

                        #12
                        that sucks

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                        • xclusive
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 35218

                          #13
                          Sorry to hear that i would bring this case to your lawyer...

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                          • WickedVenus
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 3877

                            #14
                            Originally posted by xclusive
                            Sorry to hear that i would bring this case to your lawyer...
                            Yeah our company is talking about it. It seems that we do have a case, considering we do have all the proof!
                            SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                            • xenigo
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 8067

                              #15
                              Originally posted by WickedVenus
                              Yeah our company is talking about it. It seems that we do have a case, considering we do have all the proof!
                              That's pretty shitty. What are the domains??

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                              • AnalProbe
                                pain in the Ass
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 3727

                                #16
                                Originally posted by xenigo
                                That's pretty shitty. What are the domains??
                                steal-this.com

                                speedy-domains-sucks.com

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                                • optatio
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 154

                                  #17
                                  What are the domains ?

                                  Just my , i think it'd be easy for you to prove that they did infact register them but pretty much impossible to prove that their system didn't really mess up =)

                                  I don't know how that regstar works but maybe the reason the registered owners info is theirs is because the person registered domain through them and asked for privacy on the domain.

                                  just a thought
                                  Last edited by optatio; 10-16-2004, 02:38 AM.

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                                  • xenigo
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 8067

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by AnalProbe
                                    steal-this.com

                                    speedy-domains-sucks.com
                                    LOL sounds about right

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                                    • BlueQuartz
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2004
                                      • 1971

                                      #19
                                      damn that sux! sorry to hear it!

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                                      • WickedVenus
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2004
                                        • 3877

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by optatio
                                        What are the domains ?

                                        Just my , i think it'd be easy for you to prove that they did infact register them but pretty much impossible to prove that their system didn't really mess up =)

                                        I don't know how that regstar works but maybe the reason the registered owners info is theirs is because the person registered domain through them and asked for privacy on the domain.

                                        just a thought
                                        it shows that the domains were registered a day after we purchased them.
                                        SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                                        • WickedVenus
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2004
                                          • 3877

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Dagwolf
                                          That would upset me. Whether you make a lot or a little, a week's work is a week's work.
                                          yeah it is especially and it was a weeks worth of work for 2 peopel so you can only imagine how much work we did.

                                          We just went and got 2 more to replace them, but not we have a couple of days work just to change the content, templates, and members area sections!!!
                                          SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                                          • kenny
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2002
                                            • 7245

                                            #22
                                            Did you contact that place?

                                            Not by email either.. call them.

                                            Email support sucks for 99% of all companies
                                            7

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                                            • WickedVenus
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 3877

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by kenny
                                              Did you contact that place?

                                              Not by email either.. call them.

                                              Email support sucks for 99% of all companies
                                              lmao thats a laugh I cant find a number for them.

                                              I just got an email from them. They say that even though we purchased them on the 11th that they didnt try to register them till the 15th. Which means someon took them in the mean time. Well If I purchased them on the 11th they should have been registerd to me on teh 11th.
                                              SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                                              • Taboo
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2004
                                                • 3700

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by WickedVenus
                                                lmao thats a laugh I cant find a number for them.

                                                I just got an email from them. They say that even though we purchased them on the 11th that they didnt try to register them till the 15th. Which means someon took them in the mean time. Well If I purchased them on the 11th they should have been registerd to me on teh 11th.
                                                whats the link to the domain company?

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                                                • sirrobin
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 453

                                                  #25
                                                  Why are you using no-name registrars. Is it worth the $1 you save ?
                                                  SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                                  • KRL
                                                    Entrepreneur
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 31429

                                                    #26
                                                    Unless they are valuable domains, the cost and time to litigate isn't worth it.
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                                                    • Tom_PMs
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                      • 2049

                                                      #27
                                                      Unasked for advice: Move all of your domains away from them ASAP.

                                                      I say that based on nothing more than the apparent failures (incompetence? alleged theft?) posted in this thread alone.

                                                      You've read it, you can't unread it.

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                                                      • Ordo
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Apr 2004
                                                        • 1186

                                                        #28
                                                        I would sue them.
                                                        The problem is, your case will be based on being able to prove the potential value of each domain thus establishing the speculative loss.

                                                        If you sue, have as acredited a domain appraiser as you can find appraise the domains to help your case.

                                                        But, someone needs to take a stand for all the little people things like this happen to and show these companies that continuing on with this act will cost them much more money in the long run.

                                                        Keep us posted!
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                                                        • Dagwolf
                                                          President of Canada
                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                          • 23141

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Ordo
                                                          I would sue them.
                                                          The problem is, your case will be based on being able to prove the potential value of each domain thus establishing the speculative loss.

                                                          If you sue, have as acredited a domain appraiser as you can find appraise the domains to help your case.

                                                          But, someone needs to take a stand for all the little people things like this happen to and show these companies that continuing on with this act will cost them much more money in the long run.

                                                          Keep us posted!
                                                          How about punitive damages for unethical business practices? Plus they could lose their ICANN accreditation, I assume.
                                                          Sleep well, and dream of large women.

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                                                          • johndoebob
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                            • 3405

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by WickedVenus
                                                            Speedy domain registration
                                                            Unknown registrar, use the big and solid ones, they won't steal your domains.

                                                            Check the whois and see if the registration was just slow and their system shitty so they came too late.

                                                            If the whois shows your or their informations you should file a complaint and threaten them with a lawsuite.

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                                                            • Project-Shadow
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 7340

                                                              #31
                                                              I use to use speedydomainregistration.com .. but then I realized that they looked dodgy, even the members area seemed a little off..

                                                              I then moved all my domains to registerfly.com I suggest you do the same, then take legal action, or call them or whatever.. you don't want them to terminate your account while they deal with this bullshit.

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                                                              • cold_ice
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jun 2002
                                                                • 3027

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Tom_PM
                                                                Unasked for advice: Move all of your domains away from them ASAP.

                                                                I say that based on nothing more than the apparent failures (incompetence? alleged theft?) posted in this thread alone.
                                                                Fuck them I wouldn't give them any of my biz.

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                                                                • Furious_Male
                                                                  Doing the grind since 99
                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                  • 16884

                                                                  #33
                                                                  What a bunch of shit. Not much honesty left out there.

                                                                  I will echo a lot of the other posts. Use well known respected registrars.
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                                                                  • GonZo
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                    • 3180

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Stick with trustworthy professionals....
                                                                    directnic.com
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                                                                    • KingOfDice
                                                                      Registered User
                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                      • 9

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Ummm, why would you make screenshots of yourself registering domains?

                                                                      Anyway its not proof enough for a valid case of any kind i am afraid.. did you use another whois lookup when you checked for availability on the two domains? because it does not seem too far fetched to me that there may have been something wrong with their procesing setup.


                                                                      Sorry about your infortune, like KRL said unless these are top notch names worth fighting for you probably should just bite the bullet and find another registrar.

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                                                                      • jimmyf
                                                                        OU812
                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                        • 12651

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by WickedVenus
                                                                        Speedy Domain Registration. I have screen captures and proof of when we bought them. , also proof of when they registered them to themselves.
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                                                                        • SGS
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                          • 5176

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Why use anyone other than DirectNic? If the domain isnt going to earn the few more pennies a year that it would cost then just leave them where they are.
                                                                          See sig...

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                                                                          • jimmyf
                                                                            OU812
                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                            • 12651

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by optatio
                                                                            What are the domains ?

                                                                            Just my , i think it'd be easy for you to prove that they did infact register them but pretty much impossible to prove that their system didn't really mess up =)

                                                                            I don't know how that regstar works but maybe the reason the registered owners info is theirs is because the person registered domain through them and asked for privacy on the domain.

                                                                            just a thought

                                                                            ... edit
                                                                            Last edited by jimmyf; 10-16-2004, 09:52 AM.
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                                                                            • Gynecologist
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Sep 2004
                                                                              • 2184

                                                                              #39
                                                                              I am pretty sure they are one of the places that don't reg your name right away. They wait a day or 2 and send the domains somewhere else to actually be registered in bulk. So that gives them a chance to look over the domains and see if there are any that they would like to own.

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                                                                              • Slick
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                • 7338

                                                                                #40
                                                                                That's why I stick with DirectNic.com

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                                                                                • Darkystar
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                  • 273

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  who in their right mind would create site/logo for a domain which hasn't even been registered yet?

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                                                                                  • TheJimmy
                                                                                    ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                    • 10747

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    that's uber fuct...


                                                                                    sorry to hear about that...hopefully ICANN can do something for ya...
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                                                                                    • KittyLix
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                                                      • 2036

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Darkystar
                                                                                      who in their right mind would create site/logo for a domain which hasn't even been registered yet?
                                                                                      That was my thought exactly. That and taking screenshots seems kinda weird.

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                                                                                      • lazycash
                                                                                        Troll Patrol
                                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                                        • 15214

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by KittyLix
                                                                                        That was my thought exactly. That and taking screenshots seems kinda weird.

                                                                                        Yep, I had the exact same questions. There are so many decent cheap registrars, not sure why you wouldn't use one that registered your domain in real time.
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                                                                                        • WickedVenus
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                          • 3877

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Darkystar
                                                                                          who in their right mind would create site/logo for a domain which hasn't even been registered yet?
                                                                                          The site was already registered. It was registered to us on the 11th then on the 12th they registered it to themselves. then on the 15th they told us what happened.


                                                                                          A of this morning , i had recieved an email form them saying it was a mistake, and they gave them back
                                                                                          SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                                                                                          • WickedVenus
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                                                            • 3877

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            The reason why I took screen shot was when I found out they took them I went over to the whois database, and took a screen shot of them having registered it to them selves. The whois database showed that they had registered it the day after we had. I had taken screenshots of that to prove it just incase they tried to change it on my when I contacted them.

                                                                                            I didnt have screenshots of my whois info on it. I had an email reciept showing that it was registerd to me on the 11th.

                                                                                            Does that make sense. If you think its weird to take screen shots showing that someone registered it to themselves the day after I purchased it , then you obviously dont know how to show proof that someone did something.
                                                                                            SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                                                                                            • 69pornlinks
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                              • 5560

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              i never heard of that place stick to the well known ones, i have been a user of registerfly lately, but have some at namecheap and YES! (godaddy)
                                                                                              It IS what it IS

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                                                                                              • SpeakEasy
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                • 2681

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by WickedVenus
                                                                                                Speedy domain registration
                                                                                                Even the name sounds shakey at best
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