George Bush's *true* views on homosexuality - GoFuckYourself.com

mardigras · 10-14-2004, 03:36 PM

Bush: You know, Bob, I don't know. I just don't know. I do know that we have a choice to make in America, and that is to treat people with tolerance and respect and dignity. It is important that we do that. I also know in a free society people, consenting adults can live the way they want to live, and that's to be honored. But as we respect someone's rights and as we profess tolerance, we shouldn't change or have to change our basic views on the sanctity of marriage.

Reality:

Bush ?Reassured? Christian Conservatives He Wouldn?t Appoint ?Open Homosexuals.? During a September 1999 private meeting with the Madison Project - characterized by American Prospect as ?a clique of religious conservative power brokers? - Bush said that as president, he would not appoint open lesbians or gays to federal posts. Madison Project chairman Mike Farris said he was ?reassured? by Bush?s answers to questions about homosexuality, and that he believes Bush has ?genuinely conservative views ?in his heart? about homosexuality.? Farris said that during the meeting, ?[Bush] said I?m not going to appoint people who are open advocates of the homosexual lifestyle because their policies aren?t likely to be my policies on issues.? Madison Project member Rev. Peter Marshall said that Bush told the group, ?Rest assured... I would not appoint somebody to a position who was an open homosexual.? [New York Times, 4/9/99; Dallas Morning News, 10/22/99; Atlanta Journal and Constitution, 1/18/00; Chattanooga Times, 10/8/99; American Prospect, 1/31/00]

Bush Said He Wouldn?t Appoint Anyone Who Supported Gay And Lesbian ?Left-Wing Agenda.? In 1994, Bush said that while he wouldn?t ask a potential appointee if they were gay before he appointed them, he wouldn?t anyone who supported the gay and lesbian ?agenda.? Bush said, ?If there is a political agenda that I am uncomfortable with and do not agree with, they?re not going to get appointed... that would include an agenda pushed by the gay and lesbian lobby. It tends to be a left-wing agenda. I am a conservative.? When asked whether he would appoint someone who was openly gay but not politically active, Bush said, ?I don?t know what that means.? [Ethnic NewsWatch, 11/25/94; Houston Chronicle, 11/15/94]

From http://blog.johnkerry.com/rapidresponse/

sexeducation · 10-14-2004, 03:38 PM

We live in a sexual dark ages and Bush is part of the problem with his "faith based" sex education initiatives.

He has to go - the problem is I am not convinced in the overall picture if Kerry is the right one to replace him.

It's aaah ... I don't know.

confusing

mardigras · 10-14-2004, 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by sexeducation

He has to go - the problem is I am not convinced in the overall picture if Kerry is the right one to replace him.

At this point a snowball's chance in hell viable alternative is...?

Randy · 10-14-2004, 05:27 PM

For Fuck sakes people!
Give Kerry a fucking chance! Everyone is caving in to all this fear! "Oh I dont know about John Kerry!"
You already know what Bush is for and you know its going to make working and profiting in our industry much harder....
Dont give the religious right the ammo they need. Vote this dumbass out of office!

mardigras · 10-14-2004, 05:55 PM

The Republican party has been sending mailings to churches saying that Kerry will ban the Bible and force gay marraiges.

pornstar2pac · 10-14-2004, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by mardigras
The Republican party has been sending mailings to churches saying that Kerry will ban the Bible and force gay marraiges.

cool!

Dawgy · 10-14-2004, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by mardigras
The Republican party has been sending mailings to churches saying that Kerry will ban the Bible and force gay marraiges.

isnt that kindof propaganda illegal? i know political parties sling a lot of mud, but isnt it illegal to just outright lie & try to scare people?

jigg · 10-14-2004, 06:07 PM

there's alot of illegal shit going on
a GOP sponsored company for voter registration has been shredding Democrat registrations and Oregon I believe opened a criminal investigation, Nevada is next...

Somehow I feel the debacle of Florida 2000 will pale in comparison to what happens after Nov 2nd 2004

Kerry isn't perfect, but Bush is definitly not perfect - he lies, fabricates shit all the time, the white house is the most secretive administration in history, they pressure and intimidate the CIA, and the journalists and anyone who's not on the prez side

mardigras · 10-14-2004, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
isnt that kindof propaganda illegal? i know political parties sling a lot of mud, but isnt it illegal to just outright lie & try to scare people?

Here's an article about it that has a link to a scan of one of the mailers http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/24/po...070&oref=login

BRISK · 10-14-2004, 06:16 PM

Bush should just start saying that Saddam is gay, which will give him the justification he needs to arrest all gay Americans in the name of national security.

Gay people could be the new terrorists, all you gotta do is spin it right.

10-14-2004, 03:36 PM	#1
mardigras Bon temps! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: down yonder Posts: 14,194	*George Bush's true* views on homosexuality** Bush: You know, Bob, I don't know. I just don't know. I do know that we have a choice to make in America, and that is to treat people with tolerance and respect and dignity. It is important that we do that. I also know in a free society people, consenting adults can live the way they want to live, and that's to be honored. But as we respect someone's rights and as we profess tolerance, we shouldn't change or have to change our basic views on the sanctity of marriage. Reality: Bush ?Reassured? Christian Conservatives He Wouldn?t Appoint ?Open Homosexuals.? During a September 1999 private meeting with the Madison Project - characterized by American Prospect as ?a clique of religious conservative power brokers? - Bush said that as president, he would not appoint open lesbians or gays to federal posts. Madison Project chairman Mike Farris said he was ?reassured? by Bush?s answers to questions about homosexuality, and that he believes Bush has ?genuinely conservative views ?in his heart? about homosexuality.? Farris said that during the meeting, ?[Bush] said I?m not going to appoint people who are open advocates of the homosexual lifestyle because their policies aren?t likely to be my policies on issues.? Madison Project member Rev. Peter Marshall said that Bush told the group, ?Rest assured... I would not appoint somebody to a position who was an open homosexual.? [New York Times, 4/9/99; Dallas Morning News, 10/22/99; Atlanta Journal and Constitution, 1/18/00; Chattanooga Times, 10/8/99; American Prospect, 1/31/00] Bush Said He Wouldn?t Appoint Anyone Who Supported Gay And Lesbian ?Left-Wing Agenda.? In 1994, Bush said that while he wouldn?t ask a potential appointee if they were gay before he appointed them, he wouldn?t anyone who supported the gay and lesbian ?agenda.? Bush said, ?If there is a political agenda that I am uncomfortable with and do not agree with, they?re not going to get appointed... that would include an agenda pushed by the gay and lesbian lobby. It tends to be a left-wing agenda. I am a conservative.? When asked whether he would appoint someone who was openly gay but not politically active, Bush said, ?I don?t know what that means.? [Ethnic NewsWatch, 11/25/94; Houston Chronicle, 11/15/94] From http://blog.johnkerry.com/rapidresponse/ __________________ .

10-14-2004, 05:27 PM	#4
Randy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: LA Posts: 335	For Fuck sakes people! Give Kerry a fucking chance! Everyone is caving in to all this fear! "Oh I dont know about John Kerry!" You already know what Bush is for and you know its going to make working and profiting in our industry much harder.... Dont give the religious right the ammo they need. Vote this dumbass out of office! __________________ Thanks Randy [email protected]

10-14-2004, 05:55 PM	#5
mardigras Bon temps! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: down yonder Posts: 14,194	The Republican party has been sending mailings to churches saying that Kerry will ban the Bible and force gay marraiges. __________________ .

10-14-2004, 06:07 PM	#8
jigg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,527	there's alot of illegal shit going on a GOP sponsored company for voter registration has been shredding Democrat registrations and Oregon I believe opened a criminal investigation, Nevada is next... Somehow I feel the debacle of Florida 2000 will pale in comparison to what happens after Nov 2nd 2004 Kerry isn't perfect, but Bush is definitly not perfect - he lies, fabricates shit all the time, the white house is the most secretive administration in history, they pressure and intimidate the CIA, and the journalists and anyone who's not on the prez side __________________ ...... eight,eight,two,eight,eight,four,two ......

10-14-2004, 06:16 PM	#10
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Bush should just start saying that Saddam is gay, which will give him the justification he needs to arrest all gay Americans in the name of national security. Gay people could be the new terrorists, all you gotta do is spin it right. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

10-14-2004, 03:38 PM	#2
sexeducation So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary - Alberta - Canada Posts: 7,315	We live in a sexual dark ages and Bush is part of the problem with his "faith based" sex education initiatives. He has to go - the problem is I am not convinced in the overall picture if Kerry is the right one to replace him. It's aaah ... I don't know. confusing