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Nick_Moneymaker 10-14-2004 02:44 PM

EB is right. It's cool as long as they know.

reynold 10-15-2004 02:43 AM

uncool. should discuss it out front and not stealth around

Scootermuze 10-15-2004 02:50 AM

San Diego, California-based Websense Inc. said Wednesday that it estimates that U.S. companies lose US$63 billion a year in lost productivity due to the Net, which the company claims is a "major distraction" for employees.

Websense, which is a software maker, not a research company, said it based its estimate on the U.S. Census Bureau's average U.S. salary and an hour of work lost per week due to employees' personal Internet use.

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macker 10-15-2004 05:02 AM

Agree - needs must

Naughty 10-15-2004 05:04 AM

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Originally posted by ytcracker
i think its a fair practice

Rebel D 10-15-2004 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by InsaneMidget
I don't think it's needed. Simply put, if an employee isn't producing results, terminate them.

Who cares what they are doing during work if they complete their daily tasks, unless they are being jackasses on the boards and giving off an incorrect image of your company as well.



I Have Worked as a chef for 10 years before i joined this industry. I have always lived by You are here to Work. You aren;t Paid to Fuck around. You have break times where if you choose to fuck around thats your own porogitive. but for that other time in a day you are working. If you don;t have something productive to do then ask. Because there is alwas something.

rogerbo 10-15-2004 07:41 AM

Uncool and against the law if the Worker is not informed about it.
Everything gatered against him in that way is not valide.

eroswebmaster 10-15-2004 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by Slapity
I Have Worked as a chef for 10 years before i joined this industry. I have always lived by You are here to Work. You aren;t Paid to Fuck around. You have break times where if you choose to fuck around thats your own porogitive. but for that other time in a day you are working. If you don;t have something productive to do then ask. Because there is alwas something.
That mindset is lost with most of today's youth.

bufferover 10-15-2004 07:50 AM

Depends but like employer is realy not cool to be monitored

xenophobic 10-15-2004 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by rogerbo
Uncool and against the law if the Worker is not informed about it.
Everything gatered against him in that way is not valide.

IANAL, however in the United States this is incorrect, if the employer owns the equipment. Even private email (hotmail/yahoo/gmail) is fair game if it is captured on an employers equipment.

Most people think that employers intercepting your private communications is paramount to an illegal wiretap, problem is there is barely any case law to even try and fight with.

ytcracker 10-15-2004 08:01 AM

50 employees fucking off

Groove 10-15-2004 08:06 AM

I think it's a bit extreme. But if you're going to do it,
there needs to be full disclosure and a clear set of
guidelines re what is un/acceptable online use.

mardigras 10-15-2004 08:16 AM

My policy would be that as long as what was required to be done for the day was accomplished I wouldn't have a problem with employees using the net on short breaks but I would let them know they were subject to monitoring to preserve a "blame trail" lest anyone do something illegal or harrassing using my computers.

optatio 10-15-2004 08:17 AM

Monitoring without them knowing was one of the best choices i ever made. You really just can't fucking trust anyone to do work non-stop if you leave them alone for long periods of time. Legal problems with not telling them ? Fuck that shit ... you can always just find something else to fire them for anyway. What they don't know ...

:2 cents:

P.S. I Definitely recommend this for anyone who allows their employees to use chat programs during work.

Phone taps are nice and cheap as well. Depending on your phone setup i guess =)

xenophobic 10-15-2004 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
IANAL, however in the United States this is incorrect, if the employer owns the equipment. Even private email (hotmail/yahoo/gmail) is fair game if it is captured on an employers equipment.

Most people think that employers intercepting your private communications is paramount to an illegal wiretap, problem is there is barely any case law to even try and fight with.

Let me clarify on that statement, as it is rather deceptive - it is probable that 'criminal' actions captured by an employer might be treated completely different.


A friend of mine last year was fired for statements made through personal email (hotmail) that was captured on his employers computer equipment, the company did not have any policy on computer monitoring, he was never informed that he might be monitored, nor signed anything to that effect.
However when he filed for unemployment all of the emails captured were presented, and accepted as evidense against him and he was turned down for unemployment.

A lawyer told us that a company doesn't need a written policy, or even a verbal policy to monitor employee's if they own the equipment, ISP accounts , connections etc, and told us most people should treat working at computers at work, just like other aspects of their life - don't say anything private you wouldn't want anyone to know.

Basic_man 10-15-2004 08:17 AM

Not cool, but sometimes you need to ! :thumbsup

tony286 10-15-2004 08:19 AM

You have to assume your employee's are going to use the internet to fuck off. It's like putting a tv with 1000 channels in the middle of someones desk and saying dont watch it.


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